Easy now, his recruiting process/options are probably different than ours was. Be positive, be supportive and let it play out. He has a lot of great options - let him have time and make a more well educated decision that best suits him (not just us).
Oliver Martin has as Becky offer
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It's not every kids dream to play for a hometown school. Some kids want to get away, I know I did. And it's good for some kids to get away, others not so much.
He now holds offers from Oregon, Michigan State, Wisconsin, Iowa, etc...........and offers will still come in. What would you consider elite?
I've seen him w/ other very good (3 Star) receivers and I said it then and will say it again. He stood out! And I knew after seeing him a second time that his recruitment would blow up. He's really good. He is much more advanced than where I saw MVB in camps as a high school junior.
AJ Epenesa is elite. Martin is like any plethora of more highly recruited 3-star guys. He's definitely a high quality recruit - and will likely be a fine player on whatever team he chooses.
However, I still wouldn't call him an elite recruit. It frankly doesn't matter if he's an "elite" recruit anyhow ... what will matter the most is if he proves to develop as an elite player on the FIELD. As I've stated from the outset, I hope he ends up a Hawk regardless of how many stars are by his name. I valued him before stupid hacks who work for websites attempted to ascribe a metric to his football ability.
If he ends up a Hawk, I will root for him like crazy ... just like I root for all Hawks. If he doesn't end up a Hawk, then I could care less what ends up happening in his football career.
Is there any baggage here?
I am surprised it took Iowa this long to offer but usually when the talent is there, Iowa is on top of it.
I always felt like the Lombardi kid had to over come his dad's baggage and that maybe he had a bit of a ego thing that slowed up coaches.
I have nothing really to base that on with the kid just thinking out loud. but I have seen his dad in action [while in CR] and was less than impressed with some of his antics and how he allowed his players to behave during a 7 on 7 camp
I am surprised it took Iowa this long to offer but usually when the talent is there, Iowa is on top of it.
I always felt like the Lombardi kid had to over come his dad's baggage and that maybe he had a bit of a ego thing that slowed up coaches.
I have nothing really to base that on with the kid just thinking out loud. but I have seen his dad in action [while in CR] and was less than impressed with some of his antics and how he allowed his players to behave during a 7 on 7 camp
Just looking at this but by looking at this kid when it's all said and done Vandeberg will wish he was half as good as Martin.. Vandeberg may not even be the best WR on the roster!
Seems like O. Martin is doing the same thing to Iowa that did to him... Making them wait! As his offers pile up the more likely we just might be seeing him go else where
So you think we'll lose him because we offered before MSU and Oregon? Or because we offered after WI? Be patient - i would guess the order has little or no bearing on why he chooses one of these collegesSeems like O. Martin is doing the same thing to Iowa that did to him... Making them wait! As his offers pile up the more likely we just might be seeing him go else where
Yes I think the time of Iowa's offer has lent it self to us possibly loosing out on him (we can't lose him because he isn't our yet, LOL), I think if his home town team would have been more proactive with his offer, he would have committed.. Now a different story has unfolded, he now (and it's not a bad thing for him) has many schools to think about that are showing him love.. I think if iowa would have got to him early, even if the offers would have came like they are now, he would be a Hawkeye right now..
If he wants to be a Hawkeye, he will be a Hawkeye. If he wants to play somewhere else, then he will. I will add that if we don't get him, I hope he goes outside of the B1G.
I still hope he wants to be a Hawkeye! But if not, all the best to him, in or out of the big ten.. I actually still like to watch the iowa kids on TV even if they aren't playing iowa...
What is fascinating to consider is this .... how many guys are just like Martin but DON'T attend all the camps? If Martin didn't attend the camps, his recruitment would never have blown up. He'd have remained having offers from the likes of directional Michigans and UNI .... with a likelihood of landing a late Iowa offer.
What is crazy is that Martin's recruitment would have been COMPLETELY different had he not blown up on the camp circuit. Iowa fans would have been complaining if the Hawks had to "settle" for landing Martin. Instead, now many Iowa fans will be pissed if we DON'T land him.
I think this also nicely highlights part of the reason why Iowa tends to perform at a level far higher than the "stars" of their recruits. Iowa often lands a lot of excellent talents who simply don't hit the camp-circuit. Without all that extra exposure, the kids recruitments lag correspondingly. Iowa then is the beneficiary (traditionally speaking).
What is crazy is that Martin's recruitment would have been COMPLETELY different had he not blown up on the camp circuit. Iowa fans would have been complaining if the Hawks had to "settle" for landing Martin. Instead, now many Iowa fans will be pissed if we DON'T land him.
I think this also nicely highlights part of the reason why Iowa tends to perform at a level far higher than the "stars" of their recruits. Iowa often lands a lot of excellent talents who simply don't hit the camp-circuit. Without all that extra exposure, the kids recruitments lag correspondingly. Iowa then is the beneficiary (traditionally speaking).
Very true and also why some of the Iowa kids don't receive higher ratings. The camps are huge for getting other schools to see you and site evaluators.
Simply looking at the offers Martin has received vs the offers Vandeberg received would imply that Martin is thought of in higher respect than Vandeberg was. Martin is more game ready. That said, Vandeberg received time early in his IA career.
Multisport kids are busy, especially with summer baseball.
See Andrew Van Ginkel and Brandon Snyder
#NoStars
And Oliver Martin is probably busier than both of those guys were
Gink was just a track, bb, and fb guy and works the farm hard. Snyder was fb, track, golf, baseball, bb and played AAU hoops.
I was no longer drawing parallels with VandeBerg - but I'd agree that Martin's extra size would make him more immediately "game ready," at least in a physical sense.
Bet Heller would like to have him. If he were my kid, I'd encourage him to go that route.
Oliver Martin moved up in 247's rankings to the #10 WR in the Nation and #67 Overall.
It would be disappointing if Iowa wasn't able to bring him in.
http://247sports.com/Season/2017-Football/RecruitRankings?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&Position=WR
It would be disappointing if Iowa wasn't able to bring him in.
http://247sports.com/Season/2017-Football/RecruitRankings?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&Position=WR
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