In that scenario, you're allocating funds for 4-5 years with no guarantee that NIL Bob will fund that far down the road.
But I assume those supporters either knew where their money was going when they donated, or could have pulled their money (or threatened to) if a change was made AFTER they agreed to donate. So maybe they are fine with it. Plus, I don't think the main cause of the men not being #1 is lack of money....
Crazy all the names you and other supposed "Hawkeye Fans" have called the man who has dumped millions into putting our program back on top.
No kidding, man. Who trashes those who want to help? Absolutely ridiculous. We all want to see the hawks back on top and some are putting their money where the fans mouths are.
I agree with you there. I'm just saying there is legit some talent. It's like in other women's sports, a skill set gets developed that is a different variation of the men's game.
165 pound Jared Keslar of Pitt had a losing record this season. He was the number 32 seed at Nationals and Blades wouldn’t get out of the first period with him. There’s simply a different level of talent and skill in men’s wrestling. Btw what bizarro world have we entered where the guy from super lib LA County is debating a bunch of mid west salt of the earth type dudes on the biological inferiority of women vs. men in sports?!
It’s complicated. The HWC could certainly use the money even though it is slowly making gains. For the record, I hope women’s wrestling continues to grow, and am happy that Iowa took the lead.
Brock Harding would undoubtedly beat Caitlin Clark in a game of 1v1 but 99.9% of people would rather watch her play the game of basketball. Just like the 300th ranked male tennis player would beat Serena in her prime. Everyone would rather watch Serena play. People should enjoy women’s sports for what it is and not compare it to the men’s. It’s a different sport but can really be entertaining at times.
Wait, Brock Hardy from Nebraska can play basketball too?! What a stud.
I bet 83% of the people on this forum would love to let her. 😎
Not really. To be fair and accurate that question should actually be how many of those fat old men would she beat on when they were her age?
Just a hunch but this feels like a pretty good source
It’s like you try to make yourself unlikable and I’ll give you props you’re good at it.
don't forget the Special Steps counter on his ankle and the Decoder Ring from his favorite cereal !!
Very interesting response. I would not be happy with those circumstances.
1 - Where does the money come from to create a Lead Recruiter coaching position, much less the huge bucks it would take to bring in someone like Dake to fill an assistant position? Is the max number of coaching positions dictated by NCAA or by the university? I thought we were already at the max number of coaching positions and the "Lead Recruiter" position was already basically assigned to M*. It might not even be legal to add another assistant coach.
Initial talks of facility preceded the women’s program, so I assume big donors (most even?) had already committed money prior to that point. Women’s program announced in 2021, and from a quick search it looks like official announcement by Athletic Dept for facility was 2022? Which IIRC (and it’s not unlikely I don’t 😂) a certain % of the project had to be locked up before the Athletic Dept got involved in a general fundraiser?
Basically agree, but I don't understand why some demean women's sports because they couldn't beat men at it. Many sports are handicapped in some fashion to make them competitive, wrestling maybe most of all. Gable Steveson could beat any wrestler in a lower weight class but people still find Spencer Lee matches interesting.
Also to be clear, I wasn't accusing you of demeaning it. And I agree that there is a middle ground. I find high school wrestling entertaining even if it is clearly at a lower skill level than college. I find 1A state finals fun even if the 3A guys are usually much better. My point really is that I can find entertainment value within the context of the competition while recognizing that there are other levels out there.
Calling the biggest financial booster NIL Bob is considered a degrading comment?
The old wrestling facility is still better than 99% (surely 100%) of any women's program in the country. I completely think they should have put them there, and it still would've been like royalty compared to the rest of the country.
^^^This 1000%!!! You put it much more politely than I.
Just call him Bob you dumbf:ck. Why does he need anything else attached? Not about the level of insult, it's clearly shade no matter how much you like playing dumb.
Thank you for asking
Hmm doesn’t seem to fit one of the sides?
to be fair and objective, this does fit one of the sides you described
I particularly like this, because I had a similar thought. Also a different viewpoint than you described
Again, fits one of the sides, although it was in response to “no one cares” about the women’s program. Might be an unfair judgement, but so is the initial comment.
Doesn’t fit either “side” you described
This was from someone who I believe stated they don’t like women’s wrestling. So… yeah. that “side” put “fat old dudes” out there.
Acknowledging one’s right to an opinion they disagree with
Doesn’t enjoy women’s wrestling. To each their own.
And the comment that started it all. Which is certainly an opinion, and a bit of an “extreme” one, even from an unbiased lens.
Wouldn’t benefit anyone and nothing good would come from it…. High road is the best road here.
IDK what TF you're trying to say
