OT: Michigan under investigation for sign stealing
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The thieves asking for fairness.
Sad that for first time in forever I’m pulling for Franklin to beat someone else.
Dude...I want you to think hard about this...a rival of Michigan's hired people to hack their computers and the best they found is a low level guy that broke technical rules (they were broken...I'm not denying)
But hey...hacking computers which is ACTUALLY A FEDERAL FELONY...is much less of an issue than sending someone to a watch a football game? A "sportsmanship " crime which wasn't even illegal for most of the history of CFB...
Do you work in the China PR department?
When will MI start stealing the radio transmissions between coaches and quarterbacks?
When the NCAA allows coaches and quarterbacks to use radio transmissions.
When the NCAA allows coaches and quarterbacks to use radio transmissions.
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Is a Harbaugh suspension coming soon?
Pete Thamel of ESPN explains what happens next in the Michigan investigation.
Watch:
Pete Thamel of ESPN explains what happens next in the Michigan investigation.
Watch:
The B1G Commissioner better watch out. The Nature Boy will put him in a figure 4 and make him tap out.
Ex-college football staffer shared docs with Michigan, showing Big Ten team had Wolverines' signs
A former college football staffer shared documents with Michigan that showed a Big Ten opponent had spreadsheets of the Wolverines’ signs last year obtained before his team played Michigan.
apnews.com
Yahoo: NCAA finds no connection between Jim Harbaugh and illegal sign stealing
Well, this certainly changes things. #GoBlue
wolverineswire.usatoday.com
So none of you real men of genius have any comment on other B10 teams not only doing what Michigan did but worse...they collaborated which means the coaches knew
I warned you this coming
I warned you this coming
Is your name Donald Trump? WOW He probably didn't even know that scout was on Michigans payroll.
The great thing is we aren't gonna have to wait a year to find out this time unlike the one that's just about some cheeseburgers!!!!!!
Disregard my comment about a rematch with Rutgers in the B1G championship. Looks like it'll be PSU after OSU and Michigan get Disqualified
.Joking aside. Really hope that no one from Iowa even LISTENED to the other teams that were sharing signals around the B1G. Looking like a giant cluster EFFF at this point.
Even if the signals were acquired within the rules.... It seems that sharing the signals with other teams might break a rule... Did anyone try to share Michigans signals with Iowa before the Championship game in 2021? Sure didn't seem like we had and advantage like that in the game!
The OSU and Michigan game will be REAL spicy this year
When JH is on the sidelines this Saturday will you commit to cutting your own testicles off?
It will hurt but will be for good of man kind...we need to improve the gene pool
The Big Ten....."There may be disciplinary action"
The Big Ten office is a joke
The Big Ten office is a joke
Jesus Christ. You're referencing Maurice Clarett as a Michigan supporter. You obviously don't understand that he's a convicted felon. Even OSU fans keep their distance from him.
It all comes down to one thing ------ Michigan has to cheat to win. Isn't is strange that Michigan hadn't won a B1G championship - before 2021 - going all the way back to 2004 and then - all of a sudden .........
Spin it any way you want but MICHIGAN CHEATS
The fact that the latest news is Ohio State had Michigan's signals in 2022 and still lost makes your point so dumb that rocks are laughing at you...a box of them are celebrating that they are smarter than you
My Gawd I hope Penn State beats the living tar out of them this Saturday.
Cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaters!
Suspending Harbaugh not enough. Michigan scandal should bar it from College Football Playoff | Opinion
Greg CoteWed, November 8, 2023 at 10:29 AM CST·4 min read
College football has turned itself into a free-for-all. Schools hopping from one conference to another. Name, Image & Likeness deals inviting all sorts of underhandedness. The transfer portal bulging with players changing teams. Entire rosters remade in the Coach Prime model.
Yet the sport, despite itself, is enjoying a season for the ages on the field with five teams a perfect 9-0 followed by six others at 8-1 -- all trying to survive into the last four-team, pre-expansion College Football Playoff.
Then there’s Michigan and coach Jim Harbaugh in the middle of it all, the national stain on the season, its perfect record stinking.
The presently No. 3-ranked Wolverines are a display of excellence and embarrassment in equal measure.
If the mounting evidence of its cheating scandal involving stolen signals is as true as it appears, this is a university and football program that should be disqualified from competing in the CFP for a national championship.
The reward of glory and a financial windfall is not deserved by any team found to have blatantly cheated.
Evidence indicates Michigan in violation of rules scouted and stole opponents’ play signals in a scandal centered on a since-resigned football staffer named Connor Stalions.
Cheating in sports is always ridiculous on the face of it, from the gall of its origin to its execution.
The Houston Astros in 2017 conveyed stolen signs by banging on a trash can, low-tech espionage that helped them to a World Series win that should forever have an asterisk attached.
Michigan had Stalions disguised as a Central Michigan staffer usurping information on a sideline during a game in a flourish of outlandishly brazen stupidity.
An NCAA investigation advances at glacier speed but the Big Ten is moving quickly and already has notified Michigan of pending discipline for violation of its sportsmanship rules.
(So it’s official, then. Stealing other teams’ signs to tip you off on whether a pass or run is coming -- that’s unsportsmanlike, in case there were any doubt and you needed it codified.)
Michigan in turn now claims that in 2022 Ohio State, Purdue and Rutgers shared its signs. It’s a diversionary tactic in the everybody-does-it category, and it is not expected to weigh in the Big Ten’s pending punishment.
The problem here is that the expected punishment will not fit the crime.
The Big Ten as soon as Thursday could suspend Harbaugh for two games and fine him $10,000, a proverbial slap on the wrist. (Harbaugh you’’ll recall already served a self-imposed three-game suspension to begin this season for unrelated violations.)
First-year Big Ten commissioner Tony Petitti could with executive board approval suspend Harbaugh for all three remaining regular season games, and should, but that still would not be enough. And any suspension is likely to be met with a legal challenge from Michigan and Harbaugh.
Harbaugh pleads ignorance, says he had no idea Stalions was doing what he was doing.
That stretches credulity to the snapping point, but even if you believe Harbaugh ignorance is no excuse. He’s the boss of Michigan football. It’s almost worse if this was going on without his knowledge. The NCAA’s phrase for that is “lack of institutional control.”
It is why the NCAA could mete out punishment to the Michigan program in 2024, retroactive to current crimes.
Meantime, if the only 2023 punishment is a two- or three-game suspension for Harbaugh, the real possibility exists that the CFP could include tainted Michigan among its four finalists. The Wolverines in that case could be playing for a national title in the place of a deserving school that did not cheat.
The proper punishment still could come on a football field, though.
Michigan plays at No. 10 Penn State this Saturday, then, after a game at Maryland, closes its regular season vs. No. 1 Ohio State on November 24 in a likely winner-take-all to reach the Big Ten championship game.
So there are two real chances that Michigan might still lose and fall from the top four.
It would feel like justice done.
Michigan is going to stomp them and OSU. Pains me very much to say this, but they are the real deal.
To sum up...your response is to post an article from a paper in Miami...good for you
Suspending Harbaugh not enough. Michigan scandal should bar it from College Football Playoff | Opinion
Greg Cote
Wed, November 8, 2023 at 10:29 AM CST·4 min read
College football has turned itself into a free-for-all. Schools hopping from one conference to another. Name, Image & Likeness deals inviting all sorts of underhandedness. The transfer portal bulging with players changing teams. Entire rosters remade in the Coach Prime model.
Yet the sport, despite itself, is enjoying a season for the ages on the field with five teams a perfect 9-0 followed by six others at 8-1 -- all trying to survive into the last four-team, pre-expansion College Football Playoff.
Then there’s Michigan and coach Jim Harbaugh in the middle of it all, the national stain on the season, its perfect record stinking.
The presently No. 3-ranked Wolverines are a display of excellence and embarrassment in equal measure.
If the mounting evidence of its cheating scandal involving stolen signals is as true as it appears, this is a university and football program that should be disqualified from competing in the CFP for a national championship.
The reward of glory and a financial windfall is not deserved by any team found to have blatantly cheated.
Evidence indicates Michigan in violation of rules scouted and stole opponents’ play signals in a scandal centered on a since-resigned football staffer named Connor Stalions.
Cheating in sports is always ridiculous on the face of it, from the gall of its origin to its execution.
The Houston Astros in 2017 conveyed stolen signs by banging on a trash can, low-tech espionage that helped them to a World Series win that should forever have an asterisk attached.
Michigan had Stalions disguised as a Central Michigan staffer usurping information on a sideline during a game in a flourish of outlandishly brazen stupidity.
An NCAA investigation advances at glacier speed but the Big Ten is moving quickly and already has notified Michigan of pending discipline for violation of its sportsmanship rules.
(So it’s official, then. Stealing other teams’ signs to tip you off on whether a pass or run is coming -- that’s unsportsmanlike, in case there were any doubt and you needed it codified.)
Michigan in turn now claims that in 2022 Ohio State, Purdue and Rutgers shared its signs. It’s a diversionary tactic in the everybody-does-it category, and it is not expected to weigh in the Big Ten’s pending punishment.
The problem here is that the expected punishment will not fit the crime.
The Big Ten as soon as Thursday could suspend Harbaugh for two games and fine him $10,000, a proverbial slap on the wrist. (Harbaugh you’’ll recall already served a self-imposed three-game suspension to begin this season for unrelated violations.)
First-year Big Ten commissioner Tony Petitti could with executive board approval suspend Harbaugh for all three remaining regular season games, and should, but that still would not be enough. And any suspension is likely to be met with a legal challenge from Michigan and Harbaugh.
Harbaugh pleads ignorance, says he had no idea Stalions was doing what he was doing.
That stretches credulity to the snapping point, but even if you believe Harbaugh ignorance is no excuse. He’s the boss of Michigan football. It’s almost worse if this was going on without his knowledge. The NCAA’s phrase for that is “lack of institutional control.”
It is why the NCAA could mete out punishment to the Michigan program in 2024, retroactive to current crimes.
Meantime, if the only 2023 punishment is a two- or three-game suspension for Harbaugh, the real possibility exists that the CFP could include tainted Michigan among its four finalists. The Wolverines in that case could be playing for a national title in the place of a deserving school that did not cheat.
The proper punishment still could come on a football field, though.
Michigan plays at No. 10 Penn State this Saturday, then, after a game at Maryland, closes its regular season vs. No. 1 Ohio State on November 24 in a likely winner-take-all to reach the Big Ten championship game.
So there are two real chances that Michigan might still lose and fall from the top four.
It would feel like justice done.
Most likely only suspending Harbaugh for a few game then? If that's the only immediate punishment, it's just a slap on the wrist.
Most likely what they do tho, gotta keep those B1G teams with national title hopes available. Truly a case of different rules for different teams.
Meanwhile the NCAA has an Iowa player sitting ALL season for placing a bet on a sport that has nothing to do with football... You know cause that threatens the integrity of the game more than the sh*t Michigan was doing. LOL
Of course teams share information on common opponents. Only Michigan was paying Mr Bean to travel the country filming games.
