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Wow. Majority of 12.3 mil went to having WiFi. Its no surprise more schools don't have it. I wouldn't have guessed it cost that much. Only way I could see Iowa adding WiFi is if they included it in the cost of the new renovation. I don't see them spending 8-10 million down the road for it.

They would do it if they think it's a major factor in game-day attendance. I don't know how bad things would need to get to convince them, but continuing drops in student ticket sales might be a sufficient impetus (especially if the students aren't replaced by other buyers).
 
they have done a ton of work to upgrade service. Talked to a verizon dude a while back and he said it will be MUCH better now.

Also saw a couple tweets from UI recently regarding it. They put up a tower between the baseball field and Kinnick and then they are putting up little deals on poles around kinnick as well to help with improve service.
Did not help
 
Are you serious? Wi-Fi may not big a big deal to you but trust me, for many to go without their Wi-Fi connection for 3+ hours is a huge deal. I work in research and communications. Trust me, I know. Iowa needs to get the Wi-Fi issue fixed now ... not in 2 or 3 years. It's not the only issue keeping fans away, but it is a big one - along with the fact technology is simply changing our worlds in general (Big screen TVs, steaming of games, etc.)
They could at the very least have a free WiFi connection for the students at the game.
 
It isn't a problem that is specific to only Iowa athletics. This is a trend across the country. People have less discretional income lately, ticket prices are high, and watching at home has become a much better experience.

I know it is hard to devalue a product by lowering ticket prices but I really feel that is the way they need to go. It is generally too expensive for a lot of people to take a family for the game and a night in IC. Couple those things with the product on the field the last 4-5 years and you have what we see now. Actually, with all of these factors in play, Iowa fans are still some of the most loyal out there.

Lately, as in the last 7 years? Thanx Hussein.
 
Sorry to seem to talk down to you, but WiFi will not be improved by cell towers. WiFi is a direct internet connection for data only, while the cellular towers (Verizon, US Cellular) will be for phone, text, and data (3G, 4G, etc.). The towers may improve internet reception, but phone users will still be using their data connection, and not WiFi.

If the stadium were to install WiFi, it would be quite a big deal. However, that's a lot of traffic to handle, and I'm guessing it would take a fair amount of new infrastructure (cabling, access points, etc.) to make it work sufficiently to handle the demand. I know some stadiums have WiFi, so I'm sure the U of I Athletic Dept could make it happen at some point.
Carver has WiFi.
 
Carver has WiFi.

I'm not sure how your reply relates to my statement. Are you saying that if Carver has it, then so should/could Kinnick? If so, I agree, but we'd need a lot more capacity to handle the ~4.5 times larger crowd. Also, is the Carver WiFi an open access network? I went to a few games last year, but didn't realize there was an open network.

And to respond to your post above about giving only students free WiFi, how do you restrict that? Password protection isn't realistic for a large group like that. If you're only putting access points in the areas of the students, you'll have people all around the stadium trying to get access to the weakened signal, and you'd overload the system.
 
Me and my wife each bring in 3-4 minis. They aren't hard to get in as long as you don't have them in a pocket or purse. Put mine in my shoe when I get close to the stadium. Students might get searched a little harder for alcohol.

Hell, they won't even search pockets. Security is extremely lax.
 
For wifi, I think they should extend the university Wifi network/SSID to Kinnick. The students, staff, and other university associates could use the Wifi network, reducing the load on the cellular network, which would then serve the rest of the crowd.

The solution is a matrix, not a single bullet.
 
I have never, not once, seen this. Even when I go in the student gate.

You must look like a shady asshole.

Another easy tip is to bring a closed water bottle. Hand it to them to check it. Gives them something to do and makes them think you are up front and honest...unless you look like Derekd
Notice how I said "my friends." I don't wear cargo shorts. No one's gotten a hand job in cargo shorts since nam.
 
This borders on a personal question, so you may choose not to respond. If you were a season ticket holder until this year, then you're obviously used to dropping some moderate to serious cash on the Hawkeyes every year. If you've reduced your expenses this year by not renewing, I presume you'd be able to afford to go to one of the biggest home games of the year. With the team performing better than they have for most of the past 5 years (up to this point), I would think that covers the "enjoyment/results" issue you had.

Assuming you've not had some sort of catastrophic financial change since last season, why aren't you willing to pay for this game?
While this wasn't diected at me, it still applies. I have had season tickets over 20 years plus donations, and did not renew this year. The home schedule being horrendous was the biggest factor. Pitt at night doesn't change that, nor does being 2-0 over a FCS team and arguably the worst FBS team out of the Power 5.

Furthermore, the university never reached out to ask "why did you not renew?". A solid business owner would want to know why a loyal customer did nor buy his product, bUT in stead others were treared to the "Do the Right Thing" survey. Of course, I still get donation calls (received one last night).

I'll be at Illinois and Minnesota. The other five games don't interest me.
 
While this wasn't diected at me, it still applies. I have had season tickets over 20 years plus donations, and did not renew this year. The home schedule being horrendous was the biggest factor. Pitt at night doesn't change that, nor does being 2-0 over a FCS team and arguably the worst FBS team out of the Power 5.

Furthermore, the university never reached out to ask "why did you not renew?". A solid business owner would want to know why a loyal customer did nor buy his product, bUT in stead others were treared to the "Do the Right Thing" survey. Of course, I still get donation calls (received one last night).

I'll be at Illinois and Minnesota. The other five games don't interest me.

Well, my question was an economic one, and your reasons seem to be unrelated to your personal finances. I do appreciate hearing your thoughts, though.

May I conclude that you'll be renewing next year with the better home slate (highlighted by Wisconsin, Michigan, and Nebraska)? If not, what sort of home schedule will it take to get you to attend all the games?
 
In College we snuck in so much alcohol that some of my friends would literally pass out in the stands. I never did, as I cared to much about the game to get blackout drunk during it, but we definitely passed the bottle around every game. You need it when Wisconsin runs a fake punt in the 4th quarter - trust me, you need it.
 
Well, my question was an economic one, and your reasons seem to be unrelated to your personal finances. I do appreciate hearing your thoughts, though.

May I conclude that you'll be renewing next year with the better home slate (highlighted by Wisconsin, Michigan, and Nebraska)? If not, what sort of home schedule will it take to get you to attend all the games?

This has been why I did not get season tickets this year as well. The schedule (also, my I-Club position date for renewals was very late). I just don't want to pay hundreds to see Illinois, North Texas, etc. Give me a schedule with Ohio State, Mich St, Penn St or Michigan at home on it and ill renew. I did attend the first game and ill be at Pitt and Minnesota so in hindsight I problably shouldve just renewed, but whatever.
 
Wow. Majority of 12.3 mil went to having WiFi. Its no surprise more schools don't have it. I wouldn't have guessed it cost that much. Only way I could see Iowa adding WiFi is if they included it in the cost of the new renovation. I don't see them spending 8-10 million down the road for it.
It's definitely about what I would think it would be in price. That much usage in one single stadium, and having a system that can handle the traffic, whilst actually providing a decent speed for the users...?

Yeah, that's about right. We're talking some seriously heavy WIFI equipment in order to pull this off. Not to mention a huge price tag for the lines going into the equipment as well.
 
Wow. Majority of 12.3 mil went to having WiFi. Its no surprise more schools don't have it. I wouldn't have guessed it cost that much. Only way I could see Iowa adding WiFi is if they included it in the cost of the new renovation. I don't see them spending 8-10 million down the road for it.
The thing about it also, is that it's an ongoing cost. Equipment goes obsolete pretty quick when speaking of the price tag of replacing it. Plus general maintenance and upkeep, etc. It's kind of stupid to spend that much on it to be honest. The only thing I use my phone for, is to take pictures and video when I'm at the games.
 
If that Verizon tower was working for the first game it did absolutely nothing for Verizon phones in the West stands.

Agreed. We have Verizon and sit in the west stands but my wife could not get texts to go through and was not able to connect to the internet. While this is not a big deal to me, it is to my wife and I would just as soon not have to listen to her bitch about it.
 
Agreed. We have Verizon and sit in the west stands but my wife could not get texts to go through and was not able to connect to the internet. While this is not a big deal to me, it is to my wife and I would just as soon not have to listen to her bitch about it.

Boom. You got it. Now, why do we take our wives again?
 
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Well, my question was an economic one, and your reasons seem to be unrelated to your personal finances. I do appreciate hearing your thoughts, though.

May I conclude that you'll be renewing next year with the better home slate (highlighted by Wisconsin, Michigan, and Nebraska)? If not, what sort of home schedule will it take to get you to attend all the games?
Yes, the plan is to renew next year. I may lose my previous seating location, but if 12k didn't renew (or whatever the # was), being close won't be an issue.
 
A fine mid-September night game in beautiful weather against Pitt doesn't interest you? Tough crowd.
Already have plans for Saturday night unrelated to football. Part of the danger of not renewing, for our athletic department
 
Already have plans for Saturday night unrelated to football. Part of the danger of not renewing, for our athletic department

I'm curious. You don't renew, but you also then decide not to watch the game at all? But if you had renewed, you wouldn't have made the other plans? I guess I don't get it, I figured that the guys who didn't renew still watched the game.
 
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I'm curious. You don't renew, but you also then decide not to watch the game at all? But if you had renewed, you wouldn't have made the other plans? I guess I don't get it, I figured that the guys who didn't renew still watched the game.
I'll be out of town and unable to access interwebz until after 10pm. The game will be recorded and viewed Sunday morning, unless we get smoked similar to ASU 2004.

And yes, if I renewed I would be at the game. My fall no longer revolves around those 7 Saturday all-day events.
 
Sorry to seem to talk down to you, but WiFi will not be improved by cell towers. WiFi is a direct internet connection for data only, while the cellular towers (Verizon, US Cellular) will be for phone, text, and data (3G, 4G, etc.). The towers may improve internet reception, but phone users will still be using their data connection, and not WiFi.

If the stadium were to install WiFi, it would be quite a big deal. However, that's a lot of traffic to handle, and I'm guessing it would take a fair amount of new infrastructure (cabling, access points, etc.) to make it work sufficiently to handle the demand. I know some stadiums have WiFi, so I'm sure the U of I Athletic Dept could make it happen at some point.


True - I should have said data upgrades instead of WiFi - I do understand the difference. I don't foresee the University dropping the cash for WiFi when it is probably much cheaper (possibly entirely paid for by cell companies) to upgrade the cell network on game day.
 
I'll be out of town and unable to access interwebz until after 10pm. The game will be recorded and viewed Sunday morning, unless we get smoked similar to ASU 2004.

And yes, if I renewed I would be at the game. My fall no longer revolves around those 7 Saturday all-day events.
Mine does, the wife makes sure of it. She already told her sis we won't be at the wedding and reception of her niece, we play Wisconsin. :)
 
IMO It has more to do with other factors than the product on the field.
1. Game Day Costs - We spent $270 for a hotel in Iowa city, 4 tickets were $320, Parking will be $30 minimum, gas will be $75, food will be $200 - Without alcohol it is a $900 weekend!!
2. Length of game - The TV timeouts are killing the game. I went to the Iowa hs playoffs and hs basketball championship weekend for the past 25 years. I didn't go last year, because I can't handle all the breaks. It has totally taken away any flow of the game.
3. Wifi! Let's face it we are married to our phones. No Wifi for 4-5 hours is hard on many people
4. When I can sit in BWW or Sports Bar and watch 5 or 6 games on TV and the Iowa game is right in front of me. I have atmosphere, WIFI, food, bevarage, and during TV timeouts I can scan the other games, etc..

1) If you are looking to take a family it could get quite expensive.
The athletic department has seemed to capitalize on good seasons by raising ticket prices. I haven't really paid too much attention, but have single game tickets been lowered over the last couple years?
2) TV timeouts at the game bug me. The stadium could be rocking and then the air deflates and quiets down as we wait for the red hat to wave his arms to start the game.

3) z-OMG ZOMBIES!!

while i was never a season ticket holder, i did try to hit a couple games every year. this year will be my first time in about 16 years i will not be attending a game in kinnick. Schedule (my personal schedule as well as team schedule), increased ticket prices, seeing leads evaporate en route to a loss -- last years Nebraska game being the last straw, and seeing games that were snoozers...low scoring games where the offense just couldn't move the ball are reasons why I will likely not be attending a game this year.
 
herecomethehawkeyes:

Curious, what do you think a "low scoring game" is these days?

of course this is just my opinion
Ball State was low scoring last year considering the opponent. The Hawkeyes put a strong 9 points up against Wisconsin the year before.
18 against Northern Illinois in 2012 is pretty pathetic against a directional school
9 against iowa state in 2012, 7 against Nebraska that same year
3 against Penn State in 2011, 7 against Nebraska that same year

of course, the games where we score beteen 10-20 (some that I haven't mentioned here), i didn't go back and look at Box Scores to see if 3 quarters of that was insanely crappy offense and a 4th quarter of dynamic offense....but, I know I have been to games in Kinnick where reading various tweets about how bad the offense was playing was more entertaining the game itself. I definitely have fallen asleep on the couch for a fair share of snoozers.

I guess i will now wait for some snarky rebuttal?

I didn't include Minnesota 2009 considering the QB injury situation, but i guess after the Ohio State game the previous week, was expecting more than 12 points.
 
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of course this is just my opinion
Ball State was low scoring last year considering the opponent. The Hawkeyes put a strong 9 points up against Wisconsin the year before.
18 against Northern Illinois in 2012 is pretty pathetic against a directional school
9 against iowa state in 2012, 7 against Nebraska that same year
3 against Penn State in 2011, 7 against Nebraska that same year

of course, the games where we score beteen 10-20 (some that I haven't mentioned here), i didn't go back and look at Box Scores to see if 3 quarters of that was insanely crappy offense and a 4th quarter of dynamic offense....but, I know I have been to games in Kinnick where reading various tweets about how bad the offense was playing was more entertaining the game itself. I definitely have fallen asleep on the couch for my fair share of snoozers.

I guess i will now wait for some snarky rebuttal?
Me personally, I do not care if the game is 3-0 as long as we win the game.....furthermore the Wisconsin vs Iowa game last year was far from high scoring but was one of the best games I have seen in a long long time, it was a tough physical well played game.....call me crazy but this trend of spread em out and win a 56-53 game is not any more entertaining than a well played defensive game, some just do not have a full understanding of the game to appreciate the small nuances that go along with football, much like baseball fans who just like home-runs or bball fans that only appreciate dunks and alley-opps
 
Me personally, I do not care if the game is 3-0 as long as we win the game.....furthermore the Wisconsin vs Iowa game last year was far from high scoring but was one of the best games I have seen in a long long time, it was a tough physical well played game.....call me crazy but this trend of spread em out and win a 56-53 game is not any more entertaining than a well played defensive game, some just do not have a full understanding of the game to appreciate the small nuances that go along with football, much like baseball fans who just like home-runs or bball fans that only appreciate dunks and alley-opps

i never mentioned the wisconsin game last year, but the year before was brutal to sit and watch. While a game of 56-53 score may not be fun, neither is watching a low scoring game (not because the defenses are so great, but because the offense is horrid). Low score games against teams that should have your 2nd string out getting snaps in the 2nd half doesn't do much for me either. If its a great defensive battle where every first down is an achievement then by all means....but an offense where you go 3 and out most of the day due to dropped passes, 5 yard routes when you need 7 on third down, running getting stuffed all day is not exciting

*disclaimer--In the examples I provided in the previous post, I was just providing examples of what i thought was low scoring games....not if they were low scoring due to an offense that couldn't do anything or because of a really great defensive effort.
 
of course this is just my opinion
Ball State was low scoring last year considering the opponent. The Hawkeyes put a strong 9 points up against Wisconsin the year before.
18 against Northern Illinois in 2012 is pretty pathetic against a directional school
9 against iowa state in 2012, 7 against Nebraska that same year
3 against Penn State in 2011, 7 against Nebraska that same year

of course, the games where we score beteen 10-20 (some that I haven't mentioned here), i didn't go back and look at Box Scores to see if 3 quarters of that was insanely crappy offense and a 4th quarter of dynamic offense....but, I know I have been to games in Kinnick where reading various tweets about how bad the offense was playing was more entertaining the game itself. I definitely have fallen asleep on the couch for a fair share of snoozers.

I guess i will now wait for some snarky rebuttal?

I didn't include Minnesota 2009 considering the QB injury situation, but i guess after the Ohio State game the previous week, was expecting more than 12 points.

You took it way further than necessary. Is 20 points, in this age of offense, now a "low scoring game" in your opinion? 30? 15? 6?

I'm not sure why you pointed to a whopping 7 games in the last 4 years as proof, I guess you felt you needed to really defend your answer.
 
I work in sales, I know. I can go without checking my email/phone for 3.5 hours on Saturday night, thanks. When I am at the game I am not working...and in sales, you are always working. Sorry, this is a sorry excuse to not attend a game b/c there is bad wifi. Give me a break
You are one person and the world does not revolve around your habits. And, I did not say lack of WiFi was the ONLY reason for fans not attending. Small minded mentality but throwing everyone in the same bucket just because you can go 3.5 hours without WiFi. Again, I work in consumer research in and communications for a Fortune 100 company. Technology is important. WiFi is important. The average person checks their smartphone countless times an hour. Yes, it's a big deal.
 
You took it way further than necessary. Is 20 points, in this age of offense, now a "low scoring game" in your opinion? 30? 15? 6?

I'm not sure why you pointed to a whopping 7 games in the last 4 years as proof, I guess you felt you needed to really defend your answer.

I took it further than necessary, yet you focus on this one point (out of the handful I mentioned). I also mentioned many other things that will prevent me from going to Kinnick this year....but you seem to be stuck on this particular issue.
Maybe I should have said "poor offense" instead of "low scoring" as I don't find 3 quarters of bad offense, struggling to string together a drive of 2 or more first downs that entertaining...thats a lot of boring football to sit through, even if it ends with a flurry of "come from behind, hair on fire" scoring to climb out of a hole in the fourth.

I think 18 against a directional opponent is low scoring, but against what would be seen as a tougher opponent, it may not be considered low scoring.
 
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No functioning wifi...

Not able to send out selfies and snapchat every 2 minutes...

"Limitations" on alcohol consumption for 3 hours...

Why is there so much suffering in the world?

Lord, in Your mercy...hear our prayer...
 
No functioning wifi...

Not able to send out selfies and snapchat every 2 minutes...

"Limitations" on alcohol consumption for 3 hours...

Why is there so much suffering in the world?

Lord, in Your mercy...hear our prayer...

Yea, admit these good and decent people into thine Melrose Ave in the state of drunkeness in thine heavenly Kinnick Stadium, up there. And Barta, he laid its down by the band of the Tail Gators, and yea, though the Hindus speak of karma, I implore you: give em... give em a break.
 
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