Owen to Creighton

[CyberJJ]

I’ve heard for $1.5-1.8 million range

If he gets that much, how much was Kalkbrenner worth?

 

[CyberJJ]

Players are now getting:
* NIL payments from boosters
* Revenue sharing
* Free tuition
* Free housing
* Free food 24/7
* Free training facility access
* Free physical therapy
* Free personal training
* Free coaching
* Free tutoring
* Free Nike clothing

Also:
* Alum network, to help you land a job after playing days over
* Every 4 years a trip to Europe
* Holiday tournament trips to the Caribbean (warm climate destinations)
* Finish college with no student debt (HUGE advantage for a young adult)
* Personalized support through any transitional process in college, from registering for classes, to moving into dorms, to transferring from one institution to another
* Celebrity status (and perks) for the rest of their life

If I missed anything, let me know.

Incredible.

Free advertising and exposure on national television. Free clothes and shoes. Benefit of brand association with the University they play for...etc.

 

[shrinkhawk]

...and also Free "constructive" criticism and advice from Hawkeye Beacon's finest

 

[Underscore2]

what part isn't true?

And, another winner.

Waiting for an answer on something you dreamt up, I can't help you...

 

[Max_Rebo]

...and also Free "constructive" criticism and advice from Hawkeye Beacon's finest

You really can’t put a price on that.

 

[Doodads and Hoohah]

With the help of @Max_Rebo , @Doodads and Hoohah , and @BDE420 , I have updated this list.

Imagine what the value of this package is annually, especially for out of state (and private school) tuition.

Players are now getting:
* NIL payments from boosters
* Revenue sharing
* Free tuition
* Free housing
* Free HIGH QUALITY food, 24/7
* Free supplements (protein, vitamins, etc)
* Free training facility access
* Free physical therapy
* Free massage therapy
* Free personal training
* Free coaching for development & increasing the player's value
* Free tutoring
* Free Nike (or Adidas, etc) clothing

Also:
* Every 4 years a trip to Europe
* Holiday tournament trips to the Caribbean (or other warm climate destinations)
* Finish college with NO student debt (HUGE advantage for a young adult)
* Personalized support through any transitional process in college, from registering for classes, to moving into dorms, to transferring from one institution to another
* Alum network, to help you land a job after playing days are over
* Celebrity status (and perks) for the rest of their life

Players were getting a lot of that before nil. That was the argument I always made... they are getting paid quite substantially if you factor in potential future earnings from networking etc.

 

[iahawks10]

he had a big cast on his hand so I thought it was all legit....

You want a cast? I can get you a cast. I can get you a cast by 3 o’clock, with nail polish! F’ing amateurs.

 

[SI_NYC]

$1.8

He's not worth it.

 

[Fran-Con-2]

Strict Team Caps on NIL
Player Contracts

That would clean up a lot of this right off the bat

I could be wrong but I believe the current antitrust laws/rulings prohibit the NCAA from imposing any such restrictions.

I don’t think you can have a salary cap (I.e. a restriction on a players earning capacity) without unionization and a collective bargaining agreement

 

[ISUBryce]

The NCAA has become almost irrelevant. They allowed the NIL to get completely out of hand because of the lack of a cap. And ditto for the transfer portal by eliminating the "sit out a year" requirement. Is there any wonder why venues like Iowa are suffering from attendance woes? Fans are quickly becoming indifferent to the game where player loyalty to a school is almost a thing of the past.

Every time they try to put any restrictions on the get sued and lose. I'm not sure what else they could do.

The only real way out of this was having the players unionize, and unfortunately that got resisted by the NCAA and Admins at schools. Now it's totally out of control.

 

[Ladell-hawk]

what part isn't true?

For you to go around saying Owen quit on the team and calling him a scumbag is appalling. I think he knows more about his surgery/ medical situation than you do. Just stop the name calling , it’s a really bad look.

 

[MikeyHawk]

This thread started right around the time Freeman shut it down and he ended up go to Creighton.
Doubt he didn't quit and only left Iowa because Fran was let go.
Sure thing

 

[tweeterhawk]

Owen Freeman remains dead to me. Dust from his pathetic existence at Iowa is blowing in the Spring wind.

 

[Franisdaman]

"This is where God wanted me."

Give me a break.

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

If he got $1.8M, I can't imagine what CBB is going to look like in another few years. That is INSANE.

These basketball only schools are gonna have an edge in the current NIL environment.

 

[Max_Rebo]

With the help of @Max_Rebo , @Doodads and Hoohah , and @BDE420 , I have updated this list.

Imagine what the value of this package is annually, especially for out of state (and private school) tuition.

Players are now getting:
* NIL payments from boosters
* Revenue sharing
* Free tuition
* Free housing
* Free HIGH QUALITY food, 24/7
* Free supplements (protein, vitamins, etc)
* Free training facility access
* Free physical therapy
* Free massage therapy
* Free personal training
* Free coaching for development & increasing the player's value
* Free tutoring
* Free Nike (or Adidas, etc) clothing

Also:
* Every 4 years a trip to Europe
* Holiday tournament trips to the Caribbean (or other warm climate destinations)
* Finish college with NO student debt (HUGE advantage for a young adult)
* Personalized support through any transitional process in college, from registering for classes, to moving into dorms, to transferring from one institution to another
* Alum network, to help you land a job after playing days are over
* Celebrity status (and perks) for the rest of their life

I’ve got another one: Whenever teams get to go to bowl games, all the players (and coaches) get SWAG bags with some really cool stuff. We’re talking hundreds, if not thousands, of dollars worth of merchandise.

Do teams at the NCAA tourney get something similar? I know JBo was bitching about the SWAG not being good enough a few years ago.

 

[Franisdaman]

I’ve got another one: Whenever teams get to go to bowl games, all the players (and coaches) get SWAG bags with some really cool stuff. We’re talking hundreds, if not thousands, of dollars worth of merchandise.

Do teams at the NCAA tourney get something similar? I know JBo was bitching about the SWAG not being good enough a few years ago.

he was so pissed he stole a floor mat, IIRC

 

[Max_Rebo]

he was so pissed he stole a floor mat, IIRC

He was so clever.

 

[LukaDuka]

He got pretty high on his own supply after last season and spent more time making TikToks than conditioning, and it showed.

And he will have to drive right through Iowa City every time he goes back home to Moline. F him.

 

[LukaDuka]

Hell, I love Creighton, in fact when it comes to men’s basketball, I probably watched them more than any other team this year. He will do well there

Creighton = Cornhuskers to me now.

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

Don't care. He was never coming back here anyway. I don't blame him for wanting out. Just be honest about it and why. It's a better look.

I will say it's kind of funny just how loyal all the players were to Fran.

 

[AEG82]

I will say it's kind of funny just how loyal all the players were to Fran.

They did love the man. Very much a father figure type.

 

[Max_Rebo]

I will say it's kind of funny just how loyal all the players were to Fran.

I’ve wondered if any players will follow Fran to Penn. Obviously the Ivy League is a step down, basketball-wise; but as much as the players supposedly appreciated Fran, I could see some of them giving Penn a look. An Ivy League diploma might look nice for some of these guys.

 

[GhostAppendage]

For you to go around saying Owen quit on the team and calling him a scumbag is appalling. I think he knows more about his surgery/ medical situation than you do. Just stop the name calling , it’s a really bad look.

Scumbag and a piss poor teammate.

 

[omahawki]

CYA Owen! If he doesn't rebound or play D for Mac he may be on injury leave again, from having McDermott's foot stuck in his A$$.

 

[littlez]

Didn't it come out as fact that Coleman Hawkins got $2M from Kansas State (remember his tearful postgame press conference?)?

I can see how fans are getting turned off.

Well it’s the fans that are paying the players. So obviously they’re not that turned off as the market keeps going up. Everyone says this is unsustainable but it’s cooking right now.

 

[littlez]

He's not worth it.

Creighton thinks he is.

 

[Hendy hawk]

And he will have to drive right through Iowa City every time he goes back home to Moline. F him.

UMMMM, Does Interstate 80 go through Iowa City?

 

[jonesy5960]

UMMMM, Does Interstate 80 go through Iowa City?

Ok. It's Iowa City adjacent. 🤪

 

[BrewHawk]

I'm guessing Owen is only at Creighton for one season.

 

[SI_NYC]

Creighton thinks he is.

Good for them. I wasn’t fond of his game and then wasn’t fond of quitting on the team. That’s not the player you want in your program.

 

[LetsGoHawks83]

Good for them. I wasn’t fond of his game and then wasn’t fond of quitting on the team. That’s not the player you want in your program.

Agreed. I wonder if Doug has a 2 foul jail like Fran?

Freeman was elite at going to jail quickly

 

[Rambler Hawk]

I’ve wondered if any players will follow Fran to Penn. Obviously the Ivy League is a step down, basketball-wise; but as much as the players supposedly appreciated Fran, I could see some of them giving Penn a look. An Ivy League diploma might look nice for some of these guys.

Maybe Kingsbury? 🤷‍♂️

 

[Ladell-hawk]

Maybe Kingsbury? 🤷‍♂️

I wonder if Tadjo and maybe Dembele end up there ?

 

[the24fan]

This settles it as far as I'm concerned. Didn't "quit on his team".

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[mstrub]

I wonder if Tadjo and maybe Dembele end up there ?

Ivy League schools do not give out athletic scholarships and Penn costs over $90k per year to attend. Unless they can find somebody to pay them significant NIL $ then I don't see anybody following Fran there.

 

[IChawkeye45]

Agreed. I wonder if Doug has a 2 foul jail like Fran?

Freeman was elite at going to jail quickly

I guarantee that Doug will never sit a guy at Creighton for getting two quick fouls. Ever.

 

[Frosty7130]

I will say it's kind of funny just how loyal all the players were to Fran.

I mean, by all accounts Fran is a good guy and fiercely loyal to those loyal to him. He just wasn't getting the job done nor was he adapting to the new realities of college basketball.

 

[HawksRule73]

For you to go around saying Owen quit on the team and calling him a scumbag is appalling. I think he knows more about his surgery/ medical situation than you do. Just stop the name calling , it’s a really bad look.

I don’t think what he said is a bad look.

That picture of Owen by himself in the locker room post game…that was a bad look…

 

[hawkeyeinmo]

Ivy League schools do not give out athletic scholarships and Penn costs over $90k per year to attend. Unless they can find somebody to pay them significant NIL $ then I don't see anybody following Fran there.

But they do give “academic” scholarships.