What is the old saying, "Coach I was open, son there was a reason why you were open."
Pemsl taking the last shot???
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I guarantee you he shoots 5 or 10 of those every night over the summer.
This, why was Kreiner not in the game.....he has a nice midrange shot.....White Magic simple has none when Iowa needs to make a shot either to win or tie...one of the most unlucky teams in college basketball....
Looking at body language after Pemsl took the shot, Jok was suppose to take the shot. Bohannon drew the double team, like they knew he would, and Jok was on the other side of the court all alone. Bohannon couldn't get the ball to him, but threw it to Pemsl hoping he could touch pass it to Jok. Instead Pemsl panicked and took the shot. Wasn't Pemsl's faught, free throws were the difference.
The ball would not have made it to pete before the buzzer. I think Pemsl was supposed to screen petes guy but Jok was way out of the play. Pemsl was unguarded because two guys picked up Jordan and a third was flying at him.
Haven't watched a replay but Im guessing the play broke down as they often will.
I think Jok was upset because he was wide open. I don't blame CP for taking the shot though. He was also wide open with a good look and the worst thing you can do is run out of time and not get a shot up.
Thats retarded, any scenario where Ellingson gets an open shot is a very good one.
Bohannon had no chance at getting anything resembling an acceptable look there. Its amazing what people think they see.
He made the obvious choice to pass to the wide open guy.
It wasn't a set play for Pemsel to shoot a jumper. Again, amazing.
He made the obvious choice to pass to the wide open guy.
It wasn't a set play for Pemsel to shoot a jumper. Again, amazing.
JoBo and Cordell talked about the play after the game. To clear up some of the confusion...the play was not set up for Cordell to take the shot. JoBo was going to drive the ball and either get to the rim or kick to Pete. TCU ran a double team at him and he found Cordell as basically the only option with the clock ticking down. Put up the shot and missed.
With all the hot shooters today, shame to see it end in pemsls hands....but he was open
way she goes......
That's basketball...
Bohannon definitely could've pulled up & I think we all wish he would have. He had space about 3 feet from the line. He just hit a deeper 3 than that 20 seconds earlier. He had a career high & was like 7 of 12 from 3 point land. I wanted him to shoot that shot even more than Jok.
While Pemsl taking that shot is not any kind of an ideal situation, I'll take that open shot anytime, anywhere when a play breaks down. It was a really good, open look.
Getting an open look from free throw line is something you'd want 100% of the time in that situation.
At the end of the first overtime in Minnesota, JBo threw up a double teamed shot with same look wide open available with the same poor results.
There were a few things I didn't like about the play though:
1) JBo had the double team and took one dribble too much into it using too much time.
2) Pemsl had so little time left on clock he short armed it to rush it getting it out of his hands.
3) Kreiner might be a better better shooter for that situation away from the basket.
At the end of the first overtime in Minnesota, JBo threw up a double teamed shot with same look wide open available with the same poor results.
There were a few things I didn't like about the play though:
1) JBo had the double team and took one dribble too much into it using too much time.
2) Pemsl had so little time left on clock he short armed it to rush it getting it out of his hands.
3) Kreiner might be a better better shooter for that situation away from the basket.
If they would of hit their free throws and hadn't given up so many points off turnovers this post would be nonexistent. Ami right or ami right?? 
It was a wide open shot for Pemsl, what more could he have asked for for his first jumper of his college career??
I have no problem with the shot, it was the best available.
It was a wide open shot for Pemsl, what more could he have asked for for his first jumper of his college career??
I have no problem with the shot, it was the best available.
And he should have been subbed out after the first missed FT. We didn't need him on defense anymore, we needed shooters in the game.
I agree. After their entire team went after Jordan, it was a sight to see him being wide open like that.If they would of hit their free throws and hadn't given up so many points off turnovers this post would be nonexistent. Ami right or ami right??
It was a wide open shot for Pemsl, what more could he have asked for for his first jumper of his college career??
I have no problem with the shot, it was the best available.
Was best available as you said.
No way. I just watched it to be sure. The double/triple team came way to early and far out.
You do not attempt that shot unless time is up.
Everybody did the right thing, the shot just didn't go in.
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Totally disagree & I rewatched it just to make sure he should've shot it before I posted that.
Everything that I said in the first post as the reason why. He had a shot & should've taken it.
It would have been a terrible decision to shoot from that distance while moving instead of passing to a wide open teamate.
That's video game shit.
If JBo pulls up from where you were saying he shot from, he still had the double team coming at him. From that spot, passing to Pemsl would have given Pemsl enough time to take one dribble to the rim.
Making the pass to the ONLY person in the lane when you were doubleteamed 8 feet past the arc was the right play. Unfortunately no one makes every shot they take even when wide open.
I have zero problem with anything that happened other than Cook wasn't in. He was 15-15 over the final two games. Jordan did exactly what you'd want in that situation. If he passes too early (the one dribble too many comments) then the defense may have time to recover. Cordell seemed to spot the clock and knew he had to shoot it. How many of us have experienced the "holy $hit!! I'm wide open!!!" shot. Those are many times harder than the contested ones, especially in a "panic" moment like that.
Exactly.
To think you should pull up from the nit logo on a dead run with three guys around you, all taller, rather than pass to the open man at the freethow line with time to get a shot off is insane.
JBO shoots %40 from 3. Without looking it up im guessing Pemsl is about %60 from freethow.
CP probably makes that shot at least %50 of the time, JBO probably makes that running 30footer less than %20 at best.
JBO made the right call. And if he bounce passes a second earlier CP could have had a layup or very close.
It's an end of game/half possession for Fran's team, just be happy Pemsl got a shot opportunity off. Think of all the times Iowa didn't even get a shot off before turning it over
And if he would have taken that shot so far from the 3 point line and missed, you would have been screaming that he should have passed to a wide open Pemsl.
I have no problem with letting a wide open Pemsl shoot. As others have mentioned...there have been many times the Hawks never even got a shot off (or else it was an off balance prayer that had almost no chance of going in).
You're completely wrong. And I think we both know it. 1 guy got us back in the game, 1 guy should've shot that shot. He just hit a shot deeper than that 20 seconds earlier. His shot would've been released before the double team effected it.
HELL NO! He got us back in it, I only wanted him to shoot for all the reasons listed above.
Nobody would have complained if he pulled up and took it from 25 feet. He just made the shot 1 possession before
I get that, but I'm still not going to be upset over getting a D1 college basketball player a wide open look from roughly the free throw line.
Next we'll get complaints that we weren't able to reverse the ball twice and get a dunk in 3.8 seconds. In those type of situations, even with a timeout, everything generally turns to S%(* once the ball is inbounded. The defense isn't going to just sit back and let you run whatever you want. Coaches do their job if they give the players options for where to possibly go and look for, given the limited time available. Players have to react what they see in front of them given the constraints of time/score. Bohannon threw the ball to the teammate who was open and had an opportunity to get off a good shot. The right basketball play, 10 times out of 10.
Should different players have been in the game? Perhaps. That's a separate discussion.
Incorrect. Usually in basketball it's best to have your best player take a tougher shot than your worst outside shooter taking an easier shot.
This was one of those many occasions.
Agree. If you actually run that as a play with the intent of getting the look Pemsl got, then you'd want Kriener or someone else in the game...but as an improvised play on the fly when other things broke down, I'll take any open look all day long.
Well no kidding. I also wouldn't have had a problem with JBo going for the dagger from 25. Either was fine with me
The previous shot was not deeper. It was straight on in rythm not on a dead run while being triple teamed and it was still a very very low percentage shot. The kind you make 1 out of 10 at best. The difference is it had to be taken because of time and score.
What your suggesting is ridiculous, lacks any sort of grasp of percentages and is just based on emotions and hindsight.
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