Per CNN Regional Jet crashes in Potomac River
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This also reminds me of a commercial flight in CA that hit a Cessna. San Diego area maybe? The jet was descending and could not see the Cessna putzing along below it practicing low visibility landings or something? Two pilots onboard, and the guy flying was wearing a hood
It’s the only explanation that makes sense.
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Im not a pilot or anything, but at that low of an altitude I’m wondering how well the collision avoidance systems/sensors even operate?
Wow, seeing in some articles now that helicopter was on a training flight…that seems like an unacceptably risky place to be “training”, around civilian airliners landing?
It matters. Period
Below 1,000 feet (above ground level) it inhibits what is called a resolution advisory (RA). An RA is the hey dummy do this now before you hit the other plane. The 2 planes tcas systems talk to each other to ensure they move away. IE one might climb and the other descend. A RA is trigged when it senses the aircraft to be within 25 seconds of impact.
Prior to that you would get a TA, which you will STILL GET THIS below 1,000 feet. It’s a heads up dummy light/call. Yells at you in the cockpit to look for the other aircraft and be ready to maneuver to avoid. About 40 secs prior to collision.
When your TCAS goes off it’s hard to miss. It just yells at you. The target traffic lights up yellow and red on your display, in relation to you.
You cannot ignore an RA at all. You have to comply with the instruction given. But below 1k feet, you aren’t going to get it.
Example of RA (they wouldn’t have received this below 1k feet, also this is Airbus. CRJ would be similar just displayed differently )
No, but I travel there frequently. Probably 3-4 times per year. Going there in a month. I live in KC so unlikely to fly out of Wichita but my Dad doesn't know regional flight patterns (like Wichita usually doesn't stop in KC)
Below 1,000 feet (above ground level) it inhibits what is called a resolution advisory (RA). An RA is the hey dummy do this now before you hit the other plane. The 2 planes tcas systems talk to each other to ensure they move away. IE one might climb and the other descend. A RA is trigged when it senses the aircraft to be within 25 seconds of impact.
Prior to that you would get a TA, which you will STILL GET THIS below 1,000 feet. It’s a heads up dummy light/call. Yells at you in the cockpit to look for the other aircraft and be ready to maneuver to avoid. About 40 secs prior to collision.
When your TCAS goes off it’s hard to miss. It just yells at you. The target traffic lights up yellow and red on your display, in relation to you.
You cannot ignore an RA at all. You have to comply with the instruction given. But below 1k feet, you aren’t going to get it.
Example of RA (they wouldn’t have received this)
It doesn't sound like it's going to matter in this instance due to altitud4e, but I'm curious if military aircraft has this feature as well. I'm assuming they wouldn't because this could be picked up by the enemy.
But it’s Chis……what else do you expect - team Blue and nothing else matters
Stop talking about how ****ing cold the water is. Most of the people probably died on impact. And it was 3 hours ago.
Guess I skipped the original point of this question. They work fine all the way down. The issue is during normal operations into busy airports it could cause chaos with constant alerts with zero actual traffic issues with multiple parallel approaches occurring with departing aircraft as well. It assumes below 1k feet everything is SOP and flowing normal. DCA…little different. Sure we see changes.
They do but often shut their transponder off during combat or tonight. Apparently, the helicopter transponder was off tonight.
Spare me your faux bullshit, libbity… not tge place for it. Just shut your mouth. Folks dude here. No need for your “witty repartee”…
A good friend’s son is a commercial pilot and he has commented that in/out of Reagan is “an accident waiting to happen”… way too much traffic for allotted airspace and it really gets busy at certain times of the day.
This shows the helo corridor there, and also shows how common it is for these aircraft to be in close proximity/heavy traffic there. You can see why ATC thought all was good after the helo confirmed visual (at least that’s what i thought I heard on the recordings)given how common this is.
Sounds like CRJ was at 400 feet at 140 mph. For those who survived initial impact (probably some), that split second fall is hard to comprehend. Sick to my stomach.
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ABC says no patients so far at three DC area hospitals. Given the time frame. This points to very bad and sad news.
Once an aircraft states they have traffic in sight and maintaining visual separation ATC has zero traffic spacing responsibility. That’s why even in a clear day setting lll never say traffic in sight. I’ll be a pain in their ass and let them keep us apart.
Im not even trying to be political but wtf does this even mean? What is he trying to get at? Can he just STFU right now. WH already said enough.
**** I have to go to bed. Flight out west tomorrow. Tomorrow is gonna suck.
**** I have to go to bed. Flight out west tomorrow. Tomorrow is gonna suck.
He's an @sshole whose first instinct is to always flood the zone with bullshit to distract from the fact that mistakes were made. BAU.
I think he's just an idiot that can't shutup. As if we need the president to speculate in real-time on events like these. He's a foolish man.
Good God you are a sick individual.
Trump posts like he’s just some idiot on a message board. He’s the freakin’ POTUS for fvcksakes! Have just a little self control and self respect, dude.
I’m as anti-Trump as they come and while I think a lot of Trump’s actions are going to have a lot of negative future consequences, there’s not a direct line to this. With the actions he took, the repercussions just don’t come this fast.
Ol’#47 just reminding his followers what a terrible burden his job is, fraught with danger. But he’s only doing it for their well-being. (Because ol’#47 is one helluva guy!).
