I'm fine with him portal'ing out, no matter his rea$on ...and I appreciate that he understands what he is. From his X account:
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Tony Perkins
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Come on Tony, don’t insult our intelligence here. You didn’t go to a team with an 0-18 conference record because of their mascot.
Incredible, frankly I’m glad we didn’t match or couldn’t. He’s a pretty replaceable player, or at least worth moving on from.
It's never been about the money? Bull sheet.
The truth? Fran said at a public gathering that Tony was looking for $500,000 from Iowa and that Iowa could not pay that.
Did the Missouri NIL collective guarantee him $500,000? We'll never know but let's be clear and let's be HONEST; Tony was looking for a big pay day.
Agreed and there's nothing wrong with that. This is still America.....or what's left of it anyway. 😀
But yeah, don't insult our intelligence by saying it wasn't about money when you went from an upper half B1G team, to literally the worse P6 team. Just own it and say, "Hell yeah it was about the money!"
But the players aren't being paid from the giant pool of money the sport generates. The institutions are keeping that and have the gall to push the bill across the table to the fans.
It was the number Tony's agent was asking from Iowa. They knew it was never going to happen. I would think going to mizzou would suck. If they are close to .500 next season i would be shocked. Anyway, nobody knows what Tony got but he knew Iowa wouldn't pay 100 grand even
Then why leave? Lol. If it was about the money it would at least make sense.
Tony and Fran are not the same. (I don't see a college coach worth multimillions either for that matter). yet you want to compare compensation for a college player and someone that has coached for 30 years is laughable and indicative of the mentality of most people these days.
there are 316 d 1 coaches with an average salary of $400,000. No player is worth than outside caitlin clark.
If any player were worth NIL pay for play in college they would/should be able to go to the G league and make that amount of money. They can't and that's the point, the value is not in tony perkins the value in in the name on the jersey.
TV revenue sharing might be next.
In July 2022 Kevin Warren (the B1G Commissioner at the time) met with football players regarding revenue sharing and improved medical care.
The players were looking for:
* A to-be-determined percentage of media rights revenue.
* Medical care for players after their college careers have come to an end. Funds from the B1G would purchase medical insurance policies for former players that would cover the treatment of injuries from their college football careers.
Again, this is from 2 years ago, but if the B1G did not make significant progress on doing more for players, the players' next step could be to register as a 501(c)(5) labor organization and potentially begin the process of becoming a union.
Link to the Story:
Players talking more benefits with Big Ten leaders
Big Ten players and an independent players' association are talking to conference officials about improved benefits and a bigger voice in college football's future.
Link to the related thread:
Revenue Sharing (up to $22M/School/Year) & improved Medical Care: Kevin Warren met w/ Football Players in July 2022 to discuss these Issues
The players will be looking for: * A to-be-determined percentage of media rights revenue. * Medical care for players after their college careers have come to an end. Funds from the B1G would purchase medical insurance policies for former players that would cover the treatment of injuries...
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Tony's not being truthful when he said it was not about money.
And for anyone skeptical about Tony's $500,000 (yes it was all about the money) asking price:
I've adjusted to nil and a percentage of media rights would be great as long as it has to be equal to players and schools. The union idea freaks me out. But this could boost the bigs recruiting for all teams until the other conferences join in. SEC would join immediately, lol. They have the highest nil deals in the country according to most. 3 million for a 17 year old qb is insane.TV revenue sharing might be next.
In July 2022 Kevin Warren (the B1G Commissioner at the time) met with football players regarding revenue sharing and improved medical care.
The players were looking for:
* A to-be-determined percentage of media rights revenue.
* Medical care for players after their college careers have come to an end. Funds from the B1G would purchase medical insurance policies for former players that would cover the treatment of injuries from their college football careers.
Again, this is from 2 years ago, but if the B1G did not make significant progress on doing more for players, the players' next step could be to register as a 501(c)(5) labor organization and potentially begin the process of becoming a union.
Link to the Story:
Players talking more benefits with Big Ten leaders
Big Ten players and an independent players' association are talking to conference officials about improved benefits and a bigger voice in college football's future.www.espn.com
Link to the related thread:
Revenue Sharing (up to $22M/School/Year) & improved Medical Care: Kevin Warren met w/ Football Players in July 2022 to discuss these Issues
The players will be looking for: * A to-be-determined percentage of media rights revenue. * Medical care for players after their college careers have come to an end. Funds from the B1G would purchase medical insurance policies for former players that would cover the treatment of injuries...
I'm actually not sad. We could get a true pg or watch the jump Harding takes. i think he'll improve a big amount. First freshman pg i trust to become a great player. Bowen is never going to be a p6 player. Except maybe at mizzou.sorry we couldn't pay you a half million.
If they unionize, at what point do these "student athletes" become designated as employees?
and if that happens, do they pay taxes on the value of the following?
* Tuition, books
* Housing
* unlimited food
* professional coaching (hours x the going rate)
* professional training (hours x the going rate)
what's worrisome is we only have 2 guards currently on our roster
hopefully that changes soon
He's never going to play in the NBA so why not take what he can get now?
It's a can of worms. Do they pay there own food, housing, and tuition? As employees they need to have a contract and add that bowl games are necessary too. No more sitting out. Contract and lawyer fees? Another possible bill for the professional college athletes. Yuck, pro college athletes makes me uncomfortable. If a player sucks he should be fired for not contributing and then we are in a gray area. If they become employees what guarantee does the school get? None. Employees should expect the same in return
I'd love to see a true pg in the portal. Heard we are in on a couple big guys. Fingers crossed. Bowen, Perkins, and pmac open up some scholarships
Yep.
And I can't believe some posters think Fran would lie at a public event about the $500,000 asking price.
$500,000 was Tony's starting price. Iowa couldn't pay that so Tony/his agent shopped around.
Tony got $400,000 instead of $500,000.
Scott Dochterman was 100% when he wrote this:
Correct. Josh kroenke is a Missouri alum and former b-ball player there. President of the nuggets and avalanche. Dad is Stan the owner of the LA Rams. Also fun fact he is the one who took eustachy to the party where the infamous natty light photo happened at in Columbia.
I can’t really blame guys like him. Played your 4 and can make more as 5th year guy instead of going overseas. Bigger crowds, more relevant etc. all I know is I’m glad this is the last of the Covid classes.
Lastly hope perk quiets down online and doesn’t go full terry roberts arguing with iowa fans and says crap that alienated himself from the program by making some negative comments on his way out.
Yeah, some Iowa mens "fans" are acting up and are embarrassing. If i was Tony I'd play for anyone that can fork out 400 grand.
We have 10 on scholarship at the moment (you can have 13 on scholarship).
We only have 2 guards (Harding and Dix).
And Mulvey is not much of an option.
Current 2024-2025 Roster:
Freshmen: 2 players
6'7" PF Cooper Koch
6'8" PF Chris Tadjo
Sophomores: 4 players
6'10" C Owen Freeman
6'0" PG Brock Harding
6'7" PF Pryce Sandfort
6'8" PF Ladji Dembele
Juniors : 2 players
6'5" SG Josh Dix
6'11" C Riley Mulvey (***) -- on Nov 13, 2023 it was announced that Riley was redshirting the 2023-2024 season. He was originally scheduled to graduate in 2025.
Seniors: 2 players
6'7" F Payton Sandfort
6'9" F/C Even Brauns
4 Notable Walk on players:
Freshmen: 1 player
Trey Buchanan—6’1, 175, combo guard, a preferred walk-on. Trey is the son of Indiana Pacers GM Chad Buchanan.
Sophomores: 1 player
Spencer Hutchison-- 6'4 guard; a walk on.
Juniors: 1 player
Carter Kingsbury--a 2021 6'5", 230 lb shooting guard; a preferred walk on.
Seniors: 1 player
Luc Laketa--a 2021 6'6" wing/forward; a preferred walk on.
You've seen our current guard court? We'll see about that.
If we had 500 grand for a point i think we could get a really good one even at Iowa. I do think Harding and the other freshman will be good but how big a leap do they make? Does the new frosh make an impact? It's going to be an interesting season, at least for me.
And Tyson chicken founder in Fayetteville. He just ponied up some loot to get Calipari to Arkansas.
So you’d prefer to run back with the same backcourt that got the Hawks to the NIT? Time for the old guys to leave (Perkins, McCaffery, Krikke) & try with young guys + new blood.
I like how so many in this thread are saying "Oh god yeah he's definitely not worth $400k a year. you could get an amazing top tier point guard for that muchhhhhhh!!!!!1!!!"
When, in fact, you have no idea what these players are being paid. Tony got $400k so that just shows the ignorance on this board to what these players are worth. Tony was one of the best guards in the Big Ten conference. His skill and his experience are worth big money to a team looking for leadership.
When, in fact, you have no idea what these players are being paid. Tony got $400k so that just shows the ignorance on this board to what these players are worth. Tony was one of the best guards in the Big Ten conference. His skill and his experience are worth big money to a team looking for leadership.
And then laid off a bunch of workers. Because, priorities.
A team can turn it around in one year with the right mix of players being brought in. Even a team that flailed as badly as mizzou last year could have a significant one year turnaround.
But beyond that, despite any X feed statements to the contrary, this is about getting paid. It makes absolute sense for a player with one year of eligibility left to to get the $$ while he can. Tony P. has a decent game. Is he an NBA level talent at his position? No. Can he make some money playing overseas? Seems likely. Why not make a few hundred K in the US first before plying his trade in Europe or wherever else he might end up?
But beyond that, despite any X feed statements to the contrary, this is about getting paid. It makes absolute sense for a player with one year of eligibility left to to get the $$ while he can. Tony P. has a decent game. Is he an NBA level talent at his position? No. Can he make some money playing overseas? Seems likely. Why not make a few hundred K in the US first before plying his trade in Europe or wherever else he might end up?
🤷 Tony the Tiger has a nice little ring to it. Hopefully it’s not already copyrighted.
It's an open market. It's not up to you guys to decide what he's worth. He clearly was worth 400K to Mizzou. Somebody was either going to pay him or not. And luckily for him Mizzou decided he was worth it. Every school has a choice to pay or not pay.
As he said, it was not about the money, I'm guessing that in the after season meeting he had with Fran, Tony was told that Harding would be Fran's starting point guard next year.
Tony wants to become a point guard, end of story.
That could have been the scenario, who knows?
Either way, good luck to Tony, if it wasn't for Covid he would have served his 4 years and been gone anyway. Good player, not great, averaged just under 10 points a game for his 4 years at Iowa.
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