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Predict Hawkeyes vs ISU results

It might be a rivalry in terms of fan interest for some, but anyone who's followed for any period of time can tell you this has been absolute domination for nearly two decades.

Any of the duals that have been relatively competitive were the result of an Iowa injury(2018) or Iowa resting starters.

That's not opinion, that's a fact.
Ask any Iowa State fan who they want to beat the most this year. Some would say Penn State, but most would say Iowa. That’s because Iowa is unquestionably a rival of Iowa State. That’s also not an opinion. It’s a fact.
 
Stoll didn’t seal anything. HWT wasn’t last. It wasn’t decided until ADS fought off his back in the last match of the dual.

This is all in the very article that you posted and told me I had “better read” which is funny because it’s obvious you didn’t.
I didn't declare the order of matches. Stoll had to win for Iowa to win. He did. I was more focused in on those that say that ISU hasn't even been close in the dual for about 20 years. That dual was just a few years ago.
 
I didn't declare the order of matches. Stoll had to win for Iowa to win. He did. I was more focused in on those that say that ISU hasn't even been close in the dual for about 20 years. That dual was just a few years ago.

My bad. When someone “seals it” it usually means that they locked in victory. Totally agree that it was a close dual but it was a bit of an anomaly.
 
Dwight Hinson is a good dude. He coaches my son, and is very supportive of everyone in the sport of wrestling, regardless of their school colors.

That was random. But yea, Dwight is a good dude. Met him at a wedding years back not long after his career had finished. Talked wrestling for a few hours.
 
That was random. But yea, Dwight is a good dude. Met him at a wedding years back not long after his career had finished. Talked wrestling for a few hours.
I think he was responding to my post where I brought him up and talked about meeting him
 
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Ask any Iowa State fan who they want to beat the most this year. Some would say Penn State, but most would say Iowa. That’s because Iowa is unquestionably a rival of Iowa State. That’s also not an opinion. It’s a fact.
Not every team considers each other as a rival.

I'm sure ISU does indeed consider the Hawks as a rival.

And I bet I couldn't find a single Clone fan that would say they want to beat Penn State. The Cael connection is a distant memory.
 
iowa could lose 2 in a row to pst, ok st, or even cornell and we would all be pissed, but if iowa lost 2 in a row to ist we would all be calling for a coaching change,fact.
Because it would be embarrassing as hell and with both teams at full strength should never happen. If we lost 2 in a row to UNI in football we'd be calling for a coaching change too, that doesn't mean UNI is a football rival, lol.
 
Not every team considers each other as a rival.

I'm sure ISU does indeed consider the Hawks as a rival.

And I bet I couldn't find a single Clone fan that would say they want to beat Penn State. The Cael connection is a distant memory.
I live in Ames. Trust me, the Cael connection is not a distant memory.
 
If you think Iowa v Iowa State is a rivalry in wrestling, here are some other's you'd enjoy:

Tom v Jerry
Wile E Coyote v Road Runner
Harlem Globetrotters v Washington Generals
Hammer v Nail
Anyone that thinks this is a rivalry is looking back to the early 2000s.
 
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You can call it what you want, but for the most part it's the Hawks hammering on the clones. Sure, there is a close meet now and then but year after year after year we are winning. I do miss the days of a home and away when meets were consistently competitive and a lot more exciting. Go Hawks
 
You can call it what you want, but for the most part it's the Hawks hammering on the clones. Sure, there is a close meet now and then but year after year after year we are winning. I do miss the days of a home and away when meets were consistently competitive and a lot more exciting. Go Hawks
Carver West is like a second home.
 
This is the first time I've heard of the concept that if one team dominates the other, it isn't considered I rivalry.

Want to know why it's the first time I've heard this? Because it isn't actually a thing. It's dreamed up by #TTH mouth breathers.
 
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This is the first time I've heard of the concept that if one team dominates the other, it isn't considered I rivalry.

Want to know why it's the first time I've heard this? Because it isn't actually a thing. It's dreamed up by #TTH mouth breathers.
OU and OSU call it a rivalry. Iowa and Minny football call it that too.
 
This is the first time I've heard of the concept that if one team dominates the other, it isn't considered I rivalry.

Want to know why it's the first time I've heard this? Because it isn't actually a thing. It's dreamed up by #TTH mouth breathers.
Do you agree with the premise that rivalries should be somewhat competitive? It might be if they were members of the same conference.

Cause I do. When the outcome isn't in doubt, only the score, how much enjoyment is there?

No different than the Bedlam series in Oklahoma in wrestling. You think Cowboy fans really get enjoyment from piss pounding the Sooners every year?
 
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Do you agree with the premise that rivalries should be somewhat competitive? It might be if they were members of the same conference.

Cause I do. When the outcome isn't in doubt, only the score, how much enjoyment is there?

No different than the Bedlam series in Oklahoma in wrestling. You think Cowboy fans really get enjoyment from piss pounding the Sooners every year?
tOSU vs Michigan in football is considered one of the sports biggest rivalries. Michigan did not win for almost a decade until last year... It has still been considered a rivalry throughout that timeframe.
 
I think it would seem a lot more significant if ISU was a top 5-10 team year after year, if a conference championship was linked to it, if wrestling was more mainstream, or if duals actually meant anything towards crowning a championship team.
 
Rivalries are mostly fan generated, thus, completely subjective imo. Rivalries are what you want them to be. Minnesota considers Iowa a rival and always will. Y’all might not.
Minnesota fans and their "Who Hates Iowa" chants/clothing when there's a matchup with a different school is especially stupid.

Hawks are living rent free.
 
It is really a matter of semantics. My 2 cents on the subject is that we would love to see Iowa win every match, and cheer for it to happen because ISU is a rival. It isn't because we fear of being in danger of being defeated, it is because we love crushing them.
 
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Do you agree with the premise that rivalries should be somewhat competitive? It might be if they were members of the same conference.

Cause I do. When the outcome isn't in doubt, only the score, how much enjoyment is there?

No different than the Bedlam series in Oklahoma in wrestling. You think Cowboy fans really get enjoyment from piss pounding the Sooners every year?

No, I do not. Rivalries are about history, emotion, and competition. And sometimes proximity. Conferences don’t mean crap—we wrestle ISU every year. Look how fired up our coaches get during ISU duals versus that of say an Illinois dual.

A rivalry can be one-sided. Look at Cubs/Cardinals, Yankees/BoSox, Bears/Packers. Those are some of sports biggest rivalries and all either are or have been dominated for a long time by one side.
 
Iowa / ISU is the very definition of a rivalry…. to say otherwise is silly….. it’s not just one sport it’s all of them….. just because Fans might not get fired up doesn’t mean the coaches and wrestlers don’t….. remember last year in ames after the dual?

We live in a low population state with two P5 schools in it and you don’t think it’s an intrastate rivalry??? Come on man…
 
Iowa / ISU is the very definition of a rivalry…. to say otherwise is silly….. it’s not just one sport it’s all of them….. just because Fans might not get fired up doesn’t mean the coaches and wrestlers don’t….. remember last year in ames after the dual?

We live in a low population state with two P5 schools in it and you don’t think it’s an intrastate rivalry??? Come on man…

In Mitch’s defense, his ISU/Minn schtick is pretty good. They just can’t all be winners.
 
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