PSU next year?

[21Guns]

I agree with you. At least to some extent. But the fact remains is that if we want to win a title it will most likely be PSU that we are going to have to knock off. Cael has won 6/7 titles so he is batting .860 right now. We have to pay attention to what they are doing to know what we have to do to win. Since Marinelli signed and subsequent commitments from Lee/Teasdale we have been applauding our current recruiting efforts right? Well we didn't change our tactics to beat Minny or OSU, we did however change to beat the new leader(PSU).

Why didnt Suriano redshirt this year? Two reasons I am sure. One, he is a very good and two, at some point Cael and staff made a decision that they would need his points to win the title, based on projected points Iowa, fOSU and OSU were going to put up. Then when Suriano goes down, they reevaluated and pulled Halls shirt. It's the same thing TNT will do in two years with Teasdale.

I am sure OSU Minny, ISU all did the same thing in the 80s and 90s as they were trying to figure out how in the hell they were going to beat Gable and crew.

I agree we shouldn't dwell on how unbeatable they may be and then subsequently beat it like a dead horse, but we sure as hell can't ignore it. Not if we are going to make the changes necessary to beat them

GO HAWKS!!

Programs redefine themselves all the time. Does anyone believe all those Poke teams in the 50's and 60's wrestled the same way Smith's teams did when they went on that run?

People are too hung up with HOW Gable did what he did. First of all, it will NEVER be done again, like the DiMaggio hitting streak, like the Steel Curtain defense, like The Who and Led Zeppelin, etc...
Second of all, the sport has changed. Yes, Cael has changed the sport, and now, you adjust, and improve, and down the line, you win another championship. Maybe in 2 years when Lee and Teasdale are in, the Bull is entrenched, and Murin is in. I can tell you, as a resident of Central Pa, I have seen all three grow up and they are TRULY GREAT, and I was crushed that we didn't get them, and you guys did. Ask Chief, lmao, I cried sour grapes and claimed that Teasdale would never grow out of 25, haha. Won't be so funny in 2 years if you guys take the championship.

 

[21Guns]

Lord knows the Penn State culture allowed for many second chances for Jerry Sandusky!

It was the culture of a small group of weak men, not "Penn State".

I am Penn State, and If I had my way, all child molesters would be executed.

 

[21Guns]

Kick Brands if you must. Give Brands the home grown Pennsy talent to recruit and he would dominate....give Sanderson the home grown Iowa talent and he would play catch-up.

Same with football...give Ferentz the advantage of Ohio recruiting and he would annually be at the top...give Urban the Iowa recruiting base and he would struggle.

So much easier to get kids from your own backyard. Brands will have to go to Pennsylvania/Ohio to win. Not easy

That's why I am worried: You guys got Spencer, Gavin, and Max, and they WILL improve under Tom and Terry, just like our guys improve under Cael, Cody, and Casey.

 

[jvclark]

Programs redefine themselves all the time. Does anyone believe all those Poke teams in the 50's and 60's wrestled the same way Smith's teams did when they went on that run?

People are too hung up with HOW Gable did what he did. First of all, it will NEVER be done again, like the DiMaggio hitting streak, like the Steel Curtain defense, like The Who and Led Zeppelin, etc...
Second of all, the sport has changed. Yes, Cael has changed the sport, and now, you adjust, and improve, and down the line, you win another championship. Maybe in 2 years when Lee and Teasdale are in, the Bull is entrenched, and Murin is in. I can tell you, as a resident of Central Pa, I have seen all three grow up and they are TRULY GREAT, and I was crushed that we didn't get them, and you guys did. Ask Chief, lmao, I cried sour grapes and claimed that Teasdale would never grow out of 25, haha. Won't be so funny in 2 years if you guys take the championship.

Well said. I too think what Gable did during his career can't be done again. But if you would have asked me seven years ago if anyone was going to win 6 of the next 7 I would have said no to that as well, yet here we are.

With that said, the kids we have in house and the kids coming in over the next two years are going to make things very interesting. But it's not like the cupboards in the PSU wrestling room will run dry over the next two years

Gonna be fun to watch. Win or lose.

 

[Wrestlerneverdiesasacatfan]

PSU has five champs returning next year, Holy sh.....t!

 

[Wrestlerneverdiesasacatfan]

I am not a Penn State fan but what they did today was impressive

 

[gymdad]

I am not a Penn State fan but what they did today was impressive

PSU has five champs returning next year, Holy sh.....t!

5 returning ... Zain with one year eligibility; Nolf and Nickals with 2 and Hall and Joseph with three.

 

[neversurrender]

Psu had their big 3 score enough points to have taken 5 place. That's just freaking wrong

 

[MavHawk1]

When will PSU become as hated as Iowa in the country? Or will they never?

 

[just_somebody]

When will PSU become as hated as Iowa in the country? Or will they never?

Honestly, if they aren't now, they will be for sure after they win the next two titles. Hoping the hawks will have something to say about it in 2020, or 19 if we are a little lucky

 

[rossel 33]

Kick Brands if you must. Give Brands the home grown Pennsy talent to recruit and he would dominate....give Sanderson the home grown Iowa talent and he would play catch-up.

Same with football...give Ferentz the advantage of Ohio recruiting and he would annually be at the top...give Urban the Iowa recruiting base and he would struggle.

So much easier to get kids from your own backyard. Brands will have to go to Pennsylvania/Ohio to win. Not easy

Bingo!

 

[21Guns]

When will PSU become as hated as Iowa in the country? Or will they never?

We're right there now.

Check out "TheMat".

 

[nitlion6]

Maybe when they are going for NC number 10, they can put an X on their singlets as the season begins, you know for good luck...Then my friends, it could get interesting....

Cool. You feel content and as a fan superior based upon results from 20 years ago. I am enjoying the more recent and immediate wrestling history.
I guess we each choose to rest our hats on the rack available to us.

 

[nitlion6]

Some Penn State blowhard was just interviewed by Baldwin spewing Carls change of culture, fun and recruiting good clean religious kids.

How quickly do the Koolaid drinking Happy Valley cult members forget guys like Andrew Long who were brought in to win at any cost by Carl at the start of the "dynasty". Sometimes you have to sell your soul to make it to the promised land but don't sit there and ignore your past.

Ouch. Bitterness leaves a bitter taste.

 

[bphawkeye_Rivals]

All five finalists return,plus Suriano and Cortez. Salty dogs in Happy Valley.

this is stupid

 

[bphawkeye_Rivals]

 

[Azchief32]

Cool. You feel content and as a fan superior based upon results from 20 years ago. I am enjoying the more recent and immediate wrestling history.
I guess we each choose to rest our hats on the rack available to us.

He is not saying you have to win 10 to be legit but wishing the bad luck the X gave us.

 

[FishersvilleHawkFan]

He is not saying you have to win 10 to be legit but wishing the bad luck the X gave us.

Yes Chief exactly what I was saying....

 

[EWCEWC60]

Happy Valley cult members? What are you....an idiot? Your fanbase worships Gable as if he is a God. I can't prove it but I'd be willing to bet some of you sneak up to his statue late at night and drop to your knees because you can't do it before the man himself. Smh...some of you got a twisted way of looking at things. And yes, I'm including you when I say that...

Looks like you guys have open real estate to post your own statue. No need to be jealous of our great statue. You can place in the empty Paterno statue area. I forget...why was your statue removed?

 

[AldenT]

Looks like you guys have open real estate to post your own statue. No need to be jealous of our great statue. You can place in the empty Paterno statue area. I forget...why was your statue removed?

And that's how you know you've lost the argument.

 

[EWCEWC60]

And that's how you know you've lost the argument

The covered up statue of a great college coach being removed because of a huge sex scandal? Our statue is still sitting in plain view.

 

[4everahawk]

So, we lose a lot next year and Penn State will probably be even better than this year. Question: Assuming we wrestle Penn State next year, will we be favored in any of the matches?