Rank last year's offensive position groups.
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With all the injuries, I totally agree on TE being 1.
I would swap OL with WR, I felt our WR's made fewer plays than our line. The line did improve YOY. With all of Downhill's turnovers, QB play was dead last.
Now do the combined score of games against opponents worth a shit.
I’ll get you started: Iowa zero…. Penn State, Michigan, and Tennessee…..?
What does that have to do with ranking position groups?
It makes him feel good , and deflect away from the fact how shitty the offense was. Could easily be the last 10W season in a long time.
The offense impeded the team, the defense and special teams overcame the offense and opponent 10 x
It amazes me that people think you show up and should win. We beat Wisconsin and Iowa State on the road, both solid wins. We beat Northwestern on a neutral site. All three went bowling. We also got hosed against Minnesota, should have been 11 wins.
Offensive is probably the best way to describe and rank our offense last year.
Would you have been all offended if there were a thread titled "Rank last year's defensive position groups"?
Chill the f out. You don't have to be KF's guardian at every turn.
I still think we do the least possible to help the OL out. Yeah they need to improve don’t get me wrong.
I don't think last year's unit is even close to top 10 during the KF era but I don't think they look nearly as bad with a better scheme/playcaller either.
Not offended. That's my primary ranking for them.
My primary ranking for the defensive positional groups is also 10-4.
That's how I look at the game
1. TE (no brainer)
2. RB
3. K
4. Shit
5. Shit
6. Shit
(Put QB, OL, and WR in any order you would like 4-6.)
There are fans of teams a heck of a lot better than Iowa that can rank their position groups without being weird about it.
You guys misinterpret what I'm saying. This point isn't that 10 wins means something. The point is that the team's record is my primary ranking for any positional group. It's a team game and record is the primary stat.
I say the same thing in basketball threads all the time. Kind of like I'm not crazy about the Caitlin cam tonight. I view the game in terms of the team first
Yeah it’s definitely a team game. Is there Anything you can think of that is holding the team up from winning big games right now? Or Vs top opponents?
Do you want to do overall position groups? I was just asking a question... I wasn't ripping on anyone. The only thing I could possibly have thought of was that some may be curious why Copeland would be fired while the QB analyst promoted and o line coach retained.
1. LB
2. P
3. DL
4. CB
5. TE
6. S
7. RB
8. K
9. WR
10. OL
11. QB
This group equaled to a 10-4 record.
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I didn't say you were ripping anyone. I just offered my primary assessment for the position groups; which is the team's record.
No, I don't wish to rate the position groups beyond team record. Those grades don't really matter to me and I don't care for the extreme individualization of team sports that takes place these days
Are we ranking the groups at the beginning of the season(pre-injuries) or at the end of the season?
Beginning
TE
K
RB
QB
WR
OL
End
RB - got healthy, problem was the PT rotation and OL blocking, not the players
TE - decent production but too many injuries
K - end of season struggles brought it down a spot
WR - found one good WR in the group
OL - only moved up because QB went down
QB - horrific, performance wasn’t good before Cade got hurt and got worse
Beginning
TE
K
RB
QB
WR
OL
End
RB - got healthy, problem was the PT rotation and OL blocking, not the players
TE - decent production but too many injuries
K - end of season struggles brought it down a spot
WR - found one good WR in the group
OL - only moved up because QB went down
QB - horrific, performance wasn’t good before Cade got hurt and got worse
Pretty good ranking. I'd combine S and CB and interchange them with DL. Regardless...the glaring problems with KFz and his approach to offense cannot be ignored. It's not going to get better and sadly it will be the final narrative when he retires.
Cool. As long as you also recognize that every position group’s assessment against teams that mattered was 0-92.
Every game matters.
In the games you are referring to, my primary assessment for every position group is 0-3.
Again, I'm not making any sort of point about 10 wins. I'm saying that the main assessment I give all team members is the team's record. If the team were 7-5, that would be the main grade I would give to each position group
You’re trying way too hard.
Being a KF apologist is getting tougher and tougher, eh?
Believe what you want. You should be pretty used to being wrong
Rating the players
Perkins - "B" kept Hawks in the game but disappeared at times Sandfort - "C-" he couldn't hit shit, turned the ball over and his defense is deplorable. Would have been a "D" had he not gotten 7 rebounds. Freeman - "B" played hard and was a difgerence maker but he needs to quit reaching in and...
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Check out my response in the linked basketball thread and discover that you are wrong again bud. When someone explains their words, it's ok to believe them
