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Where am I wrong...specifically? Because I could ask the same of you.
It seems like Putin is backing down and slowly taking the offramp that Biden is providing. It would be moronic to invade Ukraine. Dead soldiers coming home. Money he can't afford to spend. And, the end result would be a few decades spent trying to pacify a large, sovereign nation, with NATO expanding as Poland, the Baltics, Finland... All ask for more troops and equipment to be stationed on their soil.
If Russia can snatch the blue areas, they completely cut Ukraine off from the Black Sea, and they completely own the Sea of Avov.A good map of Ukraine’s political bifurcation, evident in the 2010 vote:
The bridge over the Kerch straits effectively closed off the Sea of Azov already. The Russians have said no military vessels through the passage.If Russia can snatch the blue areas, they completely cut Ukraine off from the Black Sea, and they completely own the Sea of Avov.
Even if they just move up to the Dnieper River in the south - which would not include Odessa - that's a much more defensible border.
[for those who are curious - Odessa (Russian: Оде́сса) or Odesa (Ukrainian: Оде́са)]
We've already pretty much promised that all we'll do is impose sanctions.Russia is ramping up for false flag operations to justify an invasion. Luckily the US has a strong president, and not a sock puppet for Putin.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/14/politics/us-intelligence-russia-false-flag/index.html
Sanctions work. Russia is already a dumpster fire of an economy hiding behind nationalism and a strong military. That can only last for so long.We've already pretty much promised that all we'll do is impose sanctions.
So imagine Russia does actually move into Ukraine. Then we impose sanctions. Does anyone think Putin will reverse course?
So then what happens?
You can be sure the hawks in both parties - will be demanding more action. You can be sure the yellow press - which is arguably most of the MSM - will parade those hawkish views and relentlessly interview the most aggressive hawks.
I say that because that's what happened prior to the Iraq war.
No, They. Don't.Sanctions work.
What’s immoral about choosing not to deal with a country or its trading partners?No, They. Don't.
They were applied to Venezuela. It took over 100K lives to date. The masses in V have rallied around the flag and now Maduro is rolling in the crib with Beijing, Moscow, Tehran and Havana. C&R will now have their hands on the world's largest proven oil reserves of 300BB.
They have not worked on Iran either. Iran has re-tooled their economy even though Trump sought to sanction them to 0 barrels of oil per day. They sought out a rabbi with deep pockets and struck a deal with energy starved China for a $400B deal over 25 years. Went into effect today. China will now receive energy at a 36% discount making China even more competitive. Iran also has their own defense industry now. Sanctions have done over $100B in damage to Tehran. Just immoral as they have done nothing to us and wished to do business with the west. NOW, Mandarin is the language taught after Farsi.
Russia has been sanctioned to death. They now have over $600B in foreign reserves with little debt.
Sanctions are an act of war. They are directed at civilians in the hope they will turn on their leaders. Quite frankly...it's sick.
When do you think Russia will do the false flag so they can attack Ukraine?No, They. Don't.
They were applied to Venezuela. It took over 100K lives to date. The masses in V have rallied around the flag and now Maduro is rolling in the crib with Beijing, Moscow, Tehran and Havana. C&R will now have their hands on the world's largest proven oil reserves of 300BB.
They have not worked on Iran either. Iran has re-tooled their economy even though Trump sought to sanction them to 0 barrels of oil per day. They sought out a rabbi with deep pockets and struck a deal with energy starved China for a $400B deal over 25 years. Went into effect today. China will now receive energy at a 36% discount making China even more competitive. Iran also has their own defense industry now. Sanctions have done over $100B in damage to Tehran. Just immoral as they have done nothing to us and wished to do business with the west. NOW, Mandarin is the language taught after Farsi.
Russia has been sanctioned to death. They now have over $600B in foreign reserves with little debt.
Sanctions are an act of war. They are directed at civilians in the hope they will turn on their leaders. Quite frankly...it's sick.
They need to be more carefully targeted, and we need better laws to go after money laundering. It’s estimated that Putin has stolen $50 billion alone.No, They. Don't.
They were applied to Venezuela. It took over 100K lives to date. The masses in V have rallied around the flag and now Maduro is rolling in the crib with Beijing, Moscow, Tehran and Havana. C&R will now have their hands on the world's largest proven oil reserves of 300BB.
They have not worked on Iran either. Iran has re-tooled their economy even though Trump sought to sanction them to 0 barrels of oil per day. They sought out a rabbi with deep pockets and struck a deal with energy starved China for a $400B deal over 25 years. Went into effect today. China will now receive energy at a 36% discount making China even more competitive. Iran also has their own defense industry now. Sanctions have done over $100B in damage to Tehran. Just immoral as they have done nothing to us and wished to do business with the west. NOW, Mandarin is the language taught after Farsi.
Russia has been sanctioned to death. They now have over $600B in foreign reserves with little debt.
Sanctions are an act of war. They are directed at civilians in the hope they will turn on their leaders. Quite frankly...it's sick.
A lot of ignorance in that 1st sentence. CHOOSING not to deal with a country is one thing. Cutting them off economically from the world via the SWIFT financial messaging system with the goal they will kneel to the will of their master is another. SWIFT is private and losing its cache as countries see how it is a tool to make governments bow as we isolate them. It's having a reverse effect. Not long ago, 86% of all financial transactions passed through SWIFT. Today, it's something like 54%. R&C have a de-dollarization policy. China has set up the AIIB. Take a look at the members on this list and who conspicuously is not. It is set up to replace the IMF and World Bank.What’s immoral about choosing not to deal with a country or its trading partners?
Russia, Venezuela, and Iran can continue to trail the rest of the world in GDP growth year after year. Relying on China has done wonders for North Korea.
That's up to the Russian people to decide, isn't it?They need to be more carefully targeted, and we need better laws to go after money laundering. It’s estimated that Putin has stolen $50 billion alone.
What is in Country 404 that R could possibly want?When do you think Russia will do the false flag so they can attack Ukraine?
Russia is the largest most resource rich country in the world. They don’t need us.A lot of ignorance in that 1st sentence. CHOOSING not to deal with a country is one thing. Cutting them off economically from the world via the SWIFT financial messaging system with the goal they will kneel to the will of their master is another. SWIFT is private and losing its cache as countries see how it is a tool to make governments bow as we isolate them. It's having a reverse effect. Not long ago, 86% of all financial transactions passed through SWIFT. Today, it's something like 54%. R&C have a de-dollarization policy. China has set up the AIIB. Take a look at the members on this list and who conspicuously is not. It is set up to replace the IMF and World Bank.
Members of the Bank - AIIB
A full list of Regional members and non-regional members of AIIB.www.aiib.org
No. We decide what is right for other people. Especially in a kleptocracy like Russia that acts against US interests. Russian people who decide differently wind up as political prisoners like Navalny, or falling from a 4th floor window while having a piano delivered.That's up to the Russian people to decide, isn't it?
U.S. taxpayers get fleeced so the MIC can profit on shipping things to Lt. Col Александр Семёнович Виндман's birthplace.So imagine Russia does actually move into Ukraine. Then we impose sanctions. Does anyone think Putin will reverse course?
So then what happens?
Oh FFS! Now, that you've been proven wrong time and again, you choose to act out like a 6th grader.Russia is the largest most resource rich country in the world. They don’t need us.
We shouldn’t deal with aggressive expansionist governments, nor should our trading partners.
If Russia’s such a noble country, why don’t you move there? Take Kanye with you.
Russia can deal with Venezuela. Russia can build diesel engines.Oh FFS! Now, that you've been proven wrong time and again, you choose to act out like a 6th grader.
America's 2nd largest importer of oil is Russia. Their Ural grade is heavy, good for diesels. Venezuela has it, but, we have sanctioned them to death...literally.
In their free and fair elections? Should they vote for Navalny?That's up to the Russian people to decide, isn't it?
JFC! Now, I've seen it all. American exceptionalism at its worst. No, we shouldn't stick our nose in the affairs of any country. But, we do all the time and chickens are coming home to roost.No. We decide what is right for other people. Especially in a kleptocracy like Russia that acts against US interests. Russian people who decide differently wind up as political prisoners like Navalny, or falling from a 4th floor window while having a piano delivered.
Is that why we sanction the Europeans for building Nord Stream 2?Every country should be allowed to choose their trading partners. That’s how autonomy works.
Who is we? You and Ted Cruz?Is that why we sanction the Europeans for building Nord Stream 2?
Because we respect their ability to choose their trading partners?
WTF did I just explain to you? There wasn't a choice. It's meant to drive up unemployment rates and punish women and children...kind of like what we did to Iraq where we killed over 500K women and children. And now R&C will have large positions in Iraqi oil that some say has 400BB of oil.Russia can deal with Venezuela. Russia can build diesel engines.
Every country should be allowed to choose their trading partners. That’s how autonomy works.
Is that why we sanction the Europeans for building Nord Stream 2?
Because we respect their ability to choose their trading partners?
Oh FFS! Now, that you've been proven wrong time and again, you choose to act out like a 6th grader.
America's 2nd largest importer of oil is Russia. Their Ural grade is heavy, good for diesels. Venezuela has it, but, we have sanctioned them to death...literally.
Navalny never polled more than a 2%.In their free and fair elections? Should they vote for Navalny?
What’s the benefit in simping for Putin? Do you at least get paid for this?Navalny never polled more than a 2%.
We, as in the United States of America.We? You and Ted Cruz?
Yep.Russia is not 2nd
Who in the EU was harmed by this? Did you read the opposition section?We, as in the United States of America.
Washington (CNN)
The US imposed new sanctions related to the contested Nord Stream 2 pipeline, Secretary of State Antony Blinken said in a statement Monday.
The State Department reported to Congress that it has designated a vessel and a "Russian-linked entity" called Transadria Ltd. that is linked to the controversial pipeline that was built to ferry natural gas from Russia to Germany and has raised concerns about Moscow's ability to use energy supplies as leverage over Europe.
Blinken said the report to Congress and the sanctions are in keeping with the requirements of the Protecting Europe's Energy Security Act of 2019.
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The EU Commission has responded to the US sanctions in relation to Nord Stream 2 by stating that the EU does not recognise the extraterritorial application of US sanctions relating to the pipeline which it considers to be contrary to international law. The EU Commission has recognised that many companies in the EU are involved with Nord Stream 2 and has stated that the EU does not intend to impose sanctions against these companies provided that they act in accordance with EU law.
So, back to the question:
Is that why we sanction the Europeans for building Nord Stream 2?
Because we respect their ability to choose their trading partners?
There you go again. You expect to come on here and spill lies. I've shot down everyone and now you act out. Take your binky with you.What’s the benefit in simping for Putin? Do you at least get paid for this?
Oh you’re killing it. Everyone here believes that Putin is a good guy, the elections in Russia are fair, Russia’s Covid numbers are low, and Russia is only going to take part of the Ukraine because they were forced to.There you go again. You expect to come on here and spill lies. I've shot down everyone and now you act out. Take your binky with you.
Don't move the goal posts, Hoss. You said this was about choice.Who in the EU was harmed by this? Did you read the opposition section?