At 11:07 AM CDT on July 15, 2022, Joel and I agreed on something.
Saudi blood money golf field announced
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Point is the DP World Tour is the European tour. How does the United States DOJ have jurisdiction over the DP World Tour? Next the DOJ needs to look into the anti-trust activities of the Premier League or Bundesliga.
Didn’t the DOJ go after FIFA?
I don’t follow soccer close, but weren’t there just fresh headlines on that?
I don’t think the U.S. recognizes much in the way of limits on what they’ll investigate and try or prosecute.
still are. my buddy's representing a major international soccer exec going to trial in january
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I literally just said "Bonesaw is ready" in Macho Man's classic cadence 🤣
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I always liked Feherty, though I get how he can be tiresome at times with the golfbro-schtick.
Other rumors that there could be some big names jumping ship Tuesday.
After 40+ years of “profits over principles” and “Jesus capitalism” becoming mainstream and ignoring the general welfare of human beings in the name of money, can LIV golf and it’s ultimate success be a surprise? In a few years this will pass as it should because it is always going to be about “the money”…Adterall, we have decided that the primary purpose of college is to field (and fund) athletic teams! LIV golf is a sport who’s time has arrived.
If temps keep climbing world-wide, we will all be living in the desert any way. Food and water will become commodities but we have chosen our priorities. Profits first.
If temps keep climbing world-wide, we will all be living in the desert any way. Food and water will become commodities but we have chosen our priorities. Profits first.
I think I heard up front for many of the contracts.
There was an article in Golf Digest talking about the money. The agents seem to be the ones pushing hard as they get a cut of the up-front money. So a huge payday.
The caddies love LIV for the guaranteed pay and one less round to carry a bag. On top of that, if their player wins, they get 10% of $4M? 😳
My prediction is the PGA has screwed itself. As long as the Saudis keep the money flowing more and more players will sign up.
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So what happens if the Saudis just ‘buy’ every major winner for the next few years?
I don't believe this simply because $90 million is way too low of a figure for this guy. Plus, he's a different sort of cat. Down to earth guy, likes to fish and mow his own lawn. Just doesn't strike me as the LIV type, however, he is an Aussie so I am guessing he holds Greg Norman in some regard.
I refuse to watch LIV golf. These guys will just be dead to me. I have no problem, and actually really enjoy, watching the Korn Ferry Tour because those guys are grinding it out and you can feel the pressure. I like watching the LPGA because those professional girls game most replicates my game given their swing speeds. I like watching the Seniors for the same reasons.
Even if the PGA loses these guys I'll still watch it.
Why would you not join the LIV tour if you had the chance, $100m pay days, get flown around the world for free on this plane.
I wish they all turned it down but it’s hard to imagine doing so if you put yourself in their shoes. Plus there’s probably a feeling that the first ones in get the biggest haul so you have to jump now.
The only reason to stay would be to have your name associated with Nicklaus and Woods and Palmer and all the history and tradition, vs. MBS and Norman and 54 hole gimmicky golf tournaments.
I’m somewhat of this mind, but I also see how much he could make if he won events on LIV.
Lots of socialist tears wrapped up into one ignorant sentence...oh those Jesus loving Saudis...
The Saudi govt is subsidizing LIV with enormous resources. No different than the Chinese govt subsidizing steel and solar panels.
The DOJ needs to investigate LIV for unfair business practices.
The DOJ needs to investigate LIV for unfair business practices.
Because I am already a millionaire several times over. I make $20 million a year just in endorsements. I play golf for a living. My reputation is important to me. Look at Phil's future endorsement career, it's been destroyed. Arnold Palmer made more money endorsing products than any athlete ever up until he died.
What would be important to me is I wouldn't want to be the guy that contributed to destroying the game of golf.
For all the crap the PGA Tour has taken it is an organization that actually does give back to the game, promotes the game, organizes and holds tournaments for all age levels, amateurs, disabled golfers, donates money to charities, etc.
Do any of you see LIV doing any of that? Do any of you see LIV doing anything to grow and foster the game from its grass roots? Does LIV have a turf management program that is researching and assisting golf courses? Courses that you and I play on. Hell no. LIV is all about money. They are buying the top of the game. Taking there's and F everybody else. F the future of the game. I will not watch LIV. I will not support it in any way.
I'll never watch a second of it. It's a carnival.
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This is the first one that really shocks and disappoints me.
He was the last guy I expected to be a slimy sell out.
He's dead to me now.
The LIV is disproportionately represented by foreign players. Smith would be an outlier in that he’s young and his best days may yet be ahead of him. He has a half billion in earnings ahead of him without going to the LIV.
What happens to these guys if they want to leave the LIV? I don’t see the Saudis being open to that happening. There’s no way these guys aren’t literally selling their souls by joining.
What happens to these guys if they want to leave the LIV? I don’t see the Saudis being open to that happening. There’s no way these guys aren’t literally selling their souls by joining.
I agree, but what if he wrecks his back next year? I think that’s what a lot of guys are looking at. I can get guaranteed money now and never have to worry ever again about my future or providing for my family?
I won’t watch it either and think Greg Norman is the Steve Bannon of golf, but I do understand human nature and why some of these guys would make the jump.
What is the unfair practice? Paying more? And by the way, if you’re suggesting anticompetitive behavior, news flash: they’re not the monopolist incumbent. Nor is this an exported product where somehow a govt subsidy violates international free trade or similar standards.
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Feherty is the best. Big get for them in terms of getting people to watch. Wonder what he's making.
I am not sure there is any broadcaster, for any sport, that is going to make me tune in because of them. I might mute someone if they are bad, but I am not sitting here thinking I got to watch this event because Bob is on the call.
Nothing is destroying the game of golf. It's not going anywhere.
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Not so fast, my friend!
Everything this jabroni touches turns to shit and dies. So there is hope for LIV to fail still!
Former U.S. president Donald Trump urges golfers to 'take the money now' and join LIV Golf after 9/11 families condemn upcoming event at Bedminster
“If you don’t take the money now, you will get nothing after the merger takes place,” Trump hypothesized.
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Well he's still an idiot, but I don't think that should stop people from capitalizing on what they think is a good opportunity for themselves.Not so fast, my friend!
Everything this jabroni touches turns to shit and dies. So there is hope for LIV to fail still!
Former U.S. president Donald Trump urges golfers to 'take the money now' and join LIV Golf after 9/11 families condemn upcoming event at Bedminster
“If you don’t take the money now, you will get nothing after the merger takes place,” Trump hypothesized.
I encourage anyone that is interested on this topic to watch the first 10 or so minutes of the Pat McAfee show today, he makes some really great points.
USA certainly doesn't need Patrick Reed. Nor want him if you polled the players would be my bet. Even before the LIV situation.
Who of the names you recognize is worried about providing for their family? Name one that couldn't do it if they had half a brain managing their previous winnings.
Doesn’t matter how much they have already made. These guys are calculating what they are going to make in the future, and for most of the guys who have gone to LIV, their high earnings days on the PGA Tour are over.
if I had 10 years left in my white collar career, and someone offered me a lump sum for 90% of that, I’d be dumb not to take it.
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My pushback though is it is different than a white collar career. It is an entertainment career.
Going to LIV is the equivalent of quitting making albums and touring and instead setting up a residency in Vegas at some cheesy casino playing to bored gamblers and drunks night after night.
Sure, it's less stress and more money, but you have basically quit "the game."
That's why I think it's lame as hell.
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