Fine then they shouldn't take public money.Private schools should never ever be required to take every kid.
Fine then they shouldn't take public money.Private schools should never ever be required to take every kid.
Wow. We might have more money if Republicans didn't constantly run a grift on us.Libs continue to think they are smarter with your money than you are. Continue to reward the impoverished and prey on their votes. Rinse and repeat.
Actually I would rather he didn't.Take 30 minutes and go to your local school district and actually see if that is happening.
Costs to run districts don't decline.Two points, and I fully recognize that I am unlikely to change any opinions, but:
1. $1.3 million is 0.67% of the proposed budget for the district.
2. Do we know how much their student population changed as a result of the ESA? Johnson County had 572 approved ESA applications. The Iowa City school district has roughly 14,000 students. If we assume that half of the county's ESA applications were for students in the Iowa City school district, that would be a roughly 2% decline in their student population. You would expect some decline in expenses if you are responsible for educating several hundred fewer students than the previous year.
I agree with what she's doing wrong, but these ads are stupid. If she was so unpopular she wouldn't win repeatedly. We're a red state...I can't see her losing. She could take away everyone's first born and most of the state would vote for her because libs are scary.
i'll support this as soon as those of us without kids are exempted from any school-related taxesStay dumb. I’m not paying for public schools if my kids have never been in one. I’ll take my tax money back. Sucks for the failing public schools. Maybe do better.
The most costly expenses in a district are likely personnel and facilities and these won't be affected much by a small decline in students. I can't turn off the heat because 35 students left my school this year. I cost to maintain the facilities won't be changed at all unless I can close schools. If the students are distributed throughout different grades and classes I probably can't consolidate the classes in order to reduce staff.Costs to run districts don't decline.
So yes, costs don't decline. Less money to the district to pay for increased costs of basically everything. So what happens? Cuts to adults. Adults who benefit the kids directly. Buildings run on bare bones as far as staffing which impacts children negatively. We need to be hiring more adults not cutting.The most costly expenses in a district are likely personnel and facilities and these won't be affected much by a small decline in students. I can't turn off the heat because 35 students left my school this year. I cost to maintain the facilities won't be changed at all unless I can close schools. If the students are distributed throughout different grades and classes I probably can't consolidate the classes in order to reduce staff.
You forgot…….”in public schools”….They’d get the same ‘voucher money’ if they sent their kid to public school.
The government pays to educate our children. All of them. As they should.
It is only looking at income and not resources. I personally know of some families in Iowa City that go to private school worth several million dollars that may qualify for this as their actual income probably is below the threshold. They come from extreme wealth or have sold businesses for generational wealth.You're saying that this family is receiving a voucher based on income based need?
The income thing can be easy to circumvent.It is only looking at income and not resources. I personally know of some families in Iowa City that go to private school worth several million dollars that may qualify for this as their actual income probably is below the threshold. They come from extreme wealth or have sold businesses for generational wealth.
My daughter said, "I support this decision!" LOL
No, they are receiving a voucher simply because their kids go to a private school, despite the fact that they can easily afford it.You're saying that this family is receiving a voucher based on income based need?
No, they are receiving a voucher simply because their kids go to a private school, despite the fact that they can easily afford it.
Not anymore.You forgot…….”in public schools”….
Those who choose private schools may do so but on their own dime.
But would you though? Many of the costs are relatively fixed. If you’re removing a few students per school do your costs go down that much? I’m going out on a limb and saying 75% of the disteict costs are labor. How many employees does the elimination of that many students make redundant.Two points, and I fully recognize that I am unlikely to change any opinions, but:
1. $1.3 million is 0.67% of the proposed budget for the district.
2. Do we know how much their student population changed as a result of the ESA? Johnson County had 572 approved ESA applications. The Iowa City school district has roughly 14,000 students. If we assume that half of the county's ESA applications were for students in the Iowa City school district, that would be a roughly 2% decline in their student population. You would expect some decline in expenses if you are responsible for educating several hundred fewer students than the previous year.
So, tell me how non farmers can manipulate our income.The income thing can be easy to circumvent.
Iowa's farmers can easily manipulate their annual income with a decent tax attorney. Multi millionaire farmers.
So non farmers can also do the same.
Just another scam for Iowans.
I have no kids. Why should I pay property taxes to support the education of other adults children? The answer is that a well educated society makes it better for everyone. I have a societal interest in children being able to read.Aww, seems the one's butthurt the most are the teachers at the public schools. The vouchers are for families that don't like the public-school systems and choose to enter their kids in a different school. So, the money isn't going to a public school, it's instead given to a school of the parent's choosing. This is how America works, if you aren't providing the proper service to the liking of the public, then you change how you do things and not continue to force people to have to live by something they don't want. That's just life of being in the public.
Other business owners?So, tell me how non farmers can manipulate our income.
I've come to realize long ago that you have no idea what you are talking about.I work in school business...
They aren't it's the parents/students are getting the money that is allotted to them for education.Fine then they shouldn't take public money.
All basis of need is phased out in 2 more years, correct?In Iowa?
All basis of need is phased out in 2 more years, correct?
No accountability, no provisions to protect special needs students, or, shall we say less attractive students, and no real auditing. That’s what happens when out of state think tanks find some rube legislators and a religious zealot governor and a short sighted "own de libs" obsessed state populace. Derp.
Because you and others have it wrong. You aren't subsidizing 'schools', you are subsidizing 'children's education'.Why should I subsidize two schools because a parent wants a private school for their child?
So, tell me how non farmers can manipulate our income.
Just waiting for Northen to unload the clever zinger he thinks he’s been baiting some posters over.
LOL wut? Parents are welcome to pay for a private school if they are unhappy with their public options, no?Aww, seems the one's butthurt the most are the teachers at the public schools. The vouchers are for families that don't like the public-school systems and choose to enter their kids in a different school. So, the money isn't going to a public school, it's instead given to a school of the parent's choosing. This is how America works, if you aren't providing the proper service to the liking of the public, then you change how you do things and not continue to force people to have to live by something they don't want. That's just life of being in the public.
What benefit education wise would it be for a special needs student to attend a private school where the other students excel at academics?All basis of need is phased out in 2 more years, correct?
No accountability, no provisions to protect special needs students, or, shall we say less attractive students, and no real auditing. That’s what happens when out of state think tanks find some rube legislators and a religious zealot governor.
Just because you are too stupid to figure out the grift here, doesn't mean public school teachers should bend over and accept it.Aww, seems the one's butthurt the most are the teachers at the public schools. The vouchers are for families that don't like the public-school systems and choose to enter their kids in a different school. So, the money isn't going to a public school, it's instead given to a school of the parent's choosing. This is how America works, if you aren't providing the proper service to the liking of the public, then you change how you do things and not continue to force people to have to live by something they don't want. That's just life of being in the public.
If the overpaid underworked Iowa public school teachers gave a shit about their jobs they would do a better job at educating our children.Just because you are too stupid to figure out the grift here, doesn't mean public school teachers should bend over and accept it.
Same reason you pay taxes for everything. I don't like paying taxes for people who are capable of working. But instead push out babies with different baby daddies left and right. This is the world we live in. I don't feel having the parents right to choose their child's education is a bad thing, considering the absolute waste of taxes we use on other worthless projects.I have no kids. Why should I pay property taxes to support the education of other adults children? The answer is that a well educated society makes it better for everyone. I have a societal interest in children being able to read.
Your post mentioned the word choice. It’s the parents choice. As a taxpayer I am funding a school for children. Why should I subsidize two schools because a parent wants a private school for their child?
Found a teacher.LOL wut? Parents are welcome to pay for a private school if they are unhappy with their public options, no?
Dilution of funding. It’s cheaper and more efficient to find one school instead of two. If the private school wants to bid a contract to take over a school district I’d be for that.Because you and others have it wrong. You aren't subsidizing 'schools', you are subsidizing 'children's education'.
The obligation is to all of our kids. Actual people. Not to a building, institution or system.