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Scott Dochterman likes the Tim Lester hire & the Kyle Shanahan/49'ers Offense that is to come

This Venn diagram has a third circle, the “This is Kirk’s offense and always has been!” crowd. Somehow, they can watch 25 years of Iowa Football and think each and every year is the same scheme, plays, etc.

Yeah no shit
 
Lester has a LOT of experience using 12 personnel (1 RB, 2 Tight Ends).

An Iowa offense looking like a Kyle Shananhan/49'ers offense??? Sign us up!

Good discussion here.

 
Any word on WR coach?
It seems to be a foregone conclusion from everyone that it’s going to be Budmayr.

I am on record that I think this will be a missed opportunity, and I stand by that position.

That said, I am comforted somewhat by Lester’s strong track record in developing WRs as a HC. I know Lester will primarily be working with QBs, but I think as the direct supervisor for our WR coach, Lester will able to be able to provide much better input and direction than our last OC was able to.

In other words, I think Lester/Bud will result in better WR play than Brian/Copeland did.
 
It seems to be a foregone conclusion from everyone that it’s going to be Budmayr.

I am on record that I think this will be a missed opportunity, and I stand by that position.

That said, I am comforted somewhat by Lester’s strong track record in developing WRs as a HC. I know Lester will primarily be working with QBs, but I think as the direct supervisor for our WR coach, Lester will able to be able to provide much better input and direction than our last OC was able to.

In other words, I think Lester/Bud will result in better WR play than Brian/Copeland did.
It has been rumored that JB is it. Then again, there were rumors for Chrsyt, Philbin, etc.

I hope they go get a proven WR coach/recruiter.
 
I would love to have KF list off Budmayr's accomplishments at Iowa. The offense got worse. He brought in Deacon Hill.
People seem to have an issue with it, but he is a big reason why we have McNamara too.

I’m putting that one in the win box for him. I think we’ll be pretty happy with that one before it’s over.
 
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People seem to have an issue with it, but he is a big reason why we have McNamara too.

I’m putting that one in the win box for him. I think we’ll be pretty happy with that one before it’s over.
i find it hard to believe mcnamara came here because of the gift. chances are the admin assistant could’ve made him the nil offer on behalf of kf and he would’ve come
 
i find it hard to believe mcnamara came here because of the gift. chances are the admin assistant could’ve made him the nil offer on behalf of kf and he would’ve come
That was allegedly the connection. Budmayr recruited Cade when he was at Wisconsin, and the McNamaras really liked Budmayr. It’s not like it’s secret info.

You don’t have to believe it. That’s fine.
 
People seem to have an issue with it, but he is a big reason why we have McNamara too.

I’m putting that one in the win box for him. I think we’ll be pretty happy with that one before it’s over.
Be prepared for the ‘we know he was hurt, Iowa offense … but he was a 51.1% passer at Iowa’ crowd to chime in
 
Be prepared for the ‘we know he was hurt, Iowa offense … but he was a 51.1% passer at Iowa’ crowd to chime in
Yeah, as I said, people seem to have an issue with it. Those are the people.

It’s been said more than once, but I do remember the guy playing at Michigan. He’s pretty good. Maybe we’ll never see it again, but I’m excited to find out.
 
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I think it has to be posted for certain amount of time.
Job openings are posted for a minimum of 14 calendar days and may be removed from posting and filled any time after the original posting period has ended.

The OC position was posted Dec 13.

The WR position was posted Jan 16 and is still open on the UI Athletics website: Iowa AC / WR Job Posting

My feeling, solely based on timing of all of this, is that Bud isn't a slam dunk and there may be an assistant or two who just finished coaching in the Super Bowl.

Think quality control or 2nd level assistant who has experience with WRs and Shannahan's offensive concepts and would fit well with Lester's teaching.

Not sure Bud's experiences or strengths align with Lester.

JMO
 
People seem to have an issue with it, but he is a big reason why we have McNamara too.

I’m putting that one in the win box for him. I think we’ll be pretty happy with that one before it’s over.
Unfortunately, his best years are behind him. He will be serviceable this Fall (if his knee recovers), but he is 1 cut away from his knees blowing out again. No fault of his, just part of the sport.

His body of work peaked in his Sophomore year at UM, then has taken a sharp nosedive (yes, injuries played a part in that).

JB's credit for CM was absolutely obliterated by his wooing of DH to Iowa. They didn't cancel each other out, it was an epic failure.

 
Unfortunately, his best years are behind him. He will be serviceable this Fall (if his knee recovers), but he is 1 cut away from his knees blowing out again. No fault of his, just part of the sport.

His body of work peaked in his Sophomore year at UM, then has taken a sharp nosedive (yes, injuries played a part in that).

JB's credit for CM was absolutely obliterated by his wooing of DH to Iowa. They didn't cancel each other out, it was an epic failure.

He will likely be fully healed. He might reinjure, but he should be physically in good shape. Maybe there will be a mental fear of reinjury?

You speak in absolutes about things that may or may not happen, as if guys who tear the ACL are bound to do it again. That is far from the case. This isn’t 1978.
 
I am not super excited about Lester (like most), but actually hearing BG say that the hiring process went well gives me a sliver of hope...if TL can help cherry pick some talent in IL, coach up the QB position, and just call an average game - then I am onboard. Let's face it the bar has been set so low, that I think most fans will be giddy over a few 10-15 yard completions....:cool:
 
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Will the Iowa offense look like the 49'ers? ;)

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If people are suddenly expecting our offense to resemble the 49ers, whoa. Pump the brakes. KF is still here. It's still his offense. We amp ourselves up yearly to be improved upon and different than the previous year. There is a reason for that obviously, we know we need it.

Lester and the Offense may be better, really, how can they not be one would envision. Still, it's foolish of us to think they'll be exceptional so immediately after the last three disastrous offensive campaigns. We're not going to be 49ers on offense, that's laughable. Hopefully, we can be top 80 or better. That will be immense improvement and much more realistic.
 
If people are suddenly expecting our offense to resemble the 49ers, whoa. Pump the brakes. KF is still here. It's still his offense. We amp ourselves up yearly to be improved upon and different than the previous year. There is a reason for that obviously, we know we need it.

Lester and the Offense may be better, really, how can they not be one would envision. Still, it's foolish of us to think they'll be exceptional so immediately after the last three disastrous offensive campaigns. We're not going to be 49ers on offense, that's laughable. Hopefully, we can be top 80 or better. That will be immense improvement and much more realistic.
Obviously we're not going to look like the SF offense, but that style is what the goal is, with how they use their RBs/TEs especially. Same goes for being exceptional immediately - no one's saying that.

The idea tho is that's the goal, and I think it's reasonable to think they'll at least be competent.
 
Obviously we're not going to look like the SF offense, but that style is what the goal is, with how they use their RBs/TEs especially. Same goes for being exceptional immediately - no one's saying that.

The idea tho is that's the goal, and I think it's reasonable to think they'll at least be competent.
You say obviously. That's not exactly what I see on this board from posters at times during the season however. I don't think it's "obvious" to some. They take these statements, run with it, then become dismayed rather immediately, and come to this board riling everyone up with irrational responses. This is pre-season coach hype for the fans. Which is fine, it's what everyone does. Many can't read between the lines and take it as verbatim which adds to the vitriol later.

I'll just let the play on the field prove it. I agree with you, playing the scheme, that's the idea, no doubt. A lot more people are surface level in their approach and actually think these responses from coaches matter far too often. We literally hear this stuff every year. It's always the same under KF typically. Even when we're really good, our offenses aren't world beaters by any means under KF.

As you said, competency is the goal for this upcoming season offensively. I hope we can achieve that. To even be mentioned in the same breath offensively, however, as the 49ers is pretty damn lofty, regardless of the actual intent behind their words.
 
As you said, competency is the goal for this upcoming season offensively. I hope we can achieve that. To even be mentioned in the same breath offensively, however, as the 49ers is pretty damn lofty, regardless of the actual intent behind their words.
If that's the style of play you wish to mimic tho, why not mention them? They're the gold standard for that style of offense, and it makes alot of sense for any team that doesn't have that elite QB that you can build around instead.

It should be obvious to anyone who thinks about it, I'll agree that there are obviously going to be posters who will want to hang Lester in effigy after the 1st 3 and out, just as there will be some who want to anoint him as the heir apparent after the first TD drive.

While we're not blessed with an abundance of talent at the WR position especially, we are deep at TE and RB, and the QB position (on paper) should be much improved from a year ago. Hopefully the change in scheme puts the OL in a better position to succeed as well - I'm on record believing that will look improved as well due to that.
 
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