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SDSU Recap

This is precious since BWI is arguably the most sensitive bunch of primadonnas in college wrestling. You tolerate very little opinion unless it's your own.
You might want to go check it out over there because there are plenty of Iowa fans that give their opinion and they get a nice reception for giving it. Off the top of my head you have Vak, Chief and minnhawk that share their thoughts weekly if not daily. In fact, they are part of the reason I make BWI one of my daily reads.
 
That's the second "overrated" post today though with nothing to back it up...which I do on your board. I get it...you think the Hawks suck. Btw, if I post anything remotely negative about PSU, I get multiple comments back at me. And that's ok.

We beat a decent SDSU team 29-8, which is an improvement on last year even though we have six new starters, an 84 going at 97, and a 97 going at HWY (no Stoll)...with our second best guy out. If you take a look at SDSU'S 33, 49, 57, 65, 74, 97...you'll find that they are good and have beat some decent guys.

Would have liked to have seen more activity and shots from 49 and 74 but all in all, not bad for this time of year.
So I'm asking you, you feel Iowa is the second best team in the country?
 
You might want to go check it out over there because there are plenty of Iowa fans that give their opinion and they get a nice reception for giving it. Off the top of my head you have Vak, Chief and minnhawk that share their thoughts weekly if not daily. In fact, they are part of the reason I make BWI one of my daily reads.
There is a big difference between offering opinion and stirring the pot. You, sir, are a pot stirrer and you come across as a smug know it all. And you don't even offer emojis or pictures of large women.
 
So I'm asking you, you feel Iowa is the second best team in the country?

No...I am already on record as predicting a 4th place finish but rankings are not predictions. It's based on past performance of the wrestlers you have now. For example, PSU has a new 125, 133, 165, who knows at 74. They do not take into consideration your HWY was injured last year. Does this mean they are 4th or 5th? No. But that's the data they go on to start the season.
 
Disappointing? Seriously? Win 8 out of 10 on the road with 2 backups wrestling and 4 first year starters (5 if you count Laux)? Not to mention, SDSU had this dual circled and was sky high for it yet only won the two matches where they had top 10 ranked guys - one of which they had to sweat out a bit.

So I guess I need a rational explanation on why it was disappointing. I didn't see it that way at all. Was impressed with Carton, Gunther and Holloway along with the other usual suspects. Wilcke was game as well. The most blah performer of the dual was Sorenson but he still won 9-5.

You make very valid points. I think the Sorenson match was disappointing and all the stalls called against us. Except for the second one that Meyer got called on him, that was crap.
 
You might want to go check it out over there because there are plenty of Iowa fans that give their opinion and they get a nice reception for giving it. Off the top of my head you have Vak, Chief and minnhawk that share their thoughts weekly if not daily. In fact, they are part of the reason I make BWI one of my daily reads.

There was a thread on Guilbon. Had I went in there and said "Guilbon sucks, he shouldn't be your starter" I would have gotten rocks thrown at me. Why? Because he is your guy for better or worse.

The Captain Obvious shtick you are rolling out today is kind of surprising...yes, Iowa wrestled a bit ho hum against a decent opponent early in the year and we probably are not going to end up second...especially if Clark does not return.
 
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No...I am already on record as predicting a 4th place finish but rankings are not predictions. It's based on past performance of the wrestlers you have now. For example, PSU has a new 125, 133, 165, who knows at 74. They do not take into consideration your HWY was injured last year. Does this mean they are 4th or 5th? No. But that's the data they go on to start the season.
I'd say you and I agree on more things than you realize. And thanks for answering my question instead of just thinking I'm trying to troll.
 
There was a thread on Guilbon. Had I went in there and said "Guilbon sucks, he shouldn't be your starter" I would have gotten rocks thrown at me. Why? Because he is your guy for better or worse.

The Captain Obvious shtick you are rolling out today is kind of surprising...yes, Iowa wrestled a bit ho hum against a decent opponent early in the year and we probably are not going to end up second...especially if Clark does not return.
First off, go back and read what I said. My opinion has absolutely nothing to do with the match last night. I stated that clearly. In fact I don't think any less of Iowa today than I did Thursday. Second, you've already given your opinions about a handful of PSU wrestlers on my board. You know you have...
 
First off, go back and read what I said. My opinion has absolutely nothing to do with the match last night. I stated that clearly. In fact I don't think any less of Iowa today than I did Thursday. Second, you've already given your opinions about a handful of PSU wrestlers on my board. You know you have...

Here is what you said after one of our guys said "at least we are not peaking" after last night's match:

A valid point here. It's actually an understatement in my opinion...

Also, I have given my opinion on PSU wrestlers but most of it is very good. The only one I ever ran down was Andrew Alton a few years back.
 
Here is what you said after one of our guys said "at least we are not peaking" after last night's match:



Also, I have given my opinion on PSU wrestlers but most of it is very good. The only one I ever ran down was Andrew Alton a few years back.
Chief is a class act. Anyone who says otherwise need to open their eyes.
 
Here is what you said after one of our guys said "at least we are not peaking" after last night's match:



Also, I have given my opinion on PSU wrestlers but most of it is very good. The only one I ever ran down was Andrew Alton a few years back.
Was it my imagination in years past hearing many of you say they peaked too early and come time for nationals they are worn out from the grind? I'd have staked my life on that being a topic for discussion in the past.

I'm not going to go through the threads over there but off the top of my head I'm thinking you've insinuated that Jimmy doesn't seem like he wants to be on the mat anymore and in so many words have said Cortez has topped out and won't get any better. You said those things on my board and those aren't exactly positive ideas being thrown out.
 
Are you going to start crying again?
You don't pay attention do you? Seems the only times there's crying going on here is when a rival fan doesn't crown your boys. It's all in these threads. You should check it out sometime...
 
Here is what you said after one of our guys said "at least we are not peaking" after last night's match:



Also, I have given my opinion on PSU wrestlers but most of it is very good. The only one I ever ran down was Andrew Alton a few years back.
Btw AZ, I'd love for you to show where I've run down any of your wrestlers. Show me just one time and I'll leave your board for ever. Just show me one. Just because I don't think Clark will win the title this year doesn't mean I'm running him down. Wrestling is the toughest sport there is. I respect every one of them from every team out there. Ok...maybe not Downey but I'm working on it.
 
Bono's interview was enjoyable to watch. The fire burns strong within him, lots of passion...

Sam Brooks' comments were right on in his brief interview above as well. Talked about going out on the mat, preforming, and taking their home crowd out of the mix. He surely is a great leader/example for the younger guys.
 
Was it my imagination in years past hearing many of you say they peaked too early and come time for nationals they are worn out from the grind? I'd have staked my life on that being a topic for discussion in the past.

I'm not going to go through the threads over there but off the top of my head I'm thinking you've insinuated that Jimmy doesn't seem like he wants to be on the mat anymore and in so many words have said Cortez has topped out and won't get any better. You said those things on my board and those aren't exactly positive ideas being thrown out.

On both "opinions," you gave no info to back it up. Just dropped irritating two cent one liners and are surprised when you aren't getting change back.

This is what I said about Cortez after Cortez lost:

"Liked Conaway better...more action, tougher. The guy from Drexel Cortez just lost to is the typical early round guy. Cortez has always been a 6-3 or 5-4 guy against decent competition. This could improve as the season goes along but he has had over a year in your room. In unrelated news, Mizzou looking like a very tough squad."

In subsequent posts, after I was questioned, I backed it up. Hey, at least you can go back and brag about how you pissed off Iowa fans every two posts like you did after getting banned.
 
Btw AZ, I'd love for you to show where I've run down any of your wrestlers. Show me just one time and I'll leave your board for ever. Just show me one. Just because I don't think Clark will win the title this year doesn't mean I'm running him down. Wrestling is the toughest sport there is. I respect every one of them from every team out there. Ok...maybe not Downey but I'm working on it.

See, now you are being a douche. I was replying to your post about me talking about your wrestlers. I didn't even hint that you ran ours down...individually.
 
You don't pay attention do you? Seems the only times there's crying going on here is when a rival fan doesn't crown your boys. It's all in these threads. You should check it out sometime...
Dude. You might be and probably are a fine fella. But you act as though HR is the only place where this occurs. From where I sit I'd put that in the sanctimonious prick or hypocrite category, but that's just me and I've been wrong before, not often, but it happens...............

I'm sure your little BWI sanctuary is quite similar, and quite possibly far worse. But I wouldn't know other than what I see here, due to my level of concern about all things Penn State being damn close to zero.
 
OK let's compare:

125: Iowa= Champ, psu=3rd
133: Iowa=Champ (will be back late January), psu= Rd of 12 if he is lucky
141: Iowa NQ anywhere from Rd of 12 to 1-2, psu= similar results.
149: Iowa=2nd(any type of bet you wanna make I will take here, as long as he stays healthy), psu= Champ
157: Iowa= anywhere from 3rd to 8th, psu= Champ
165: Iowa=NQ( possibly more with the Bull but as of now I still say he keeps his shirt), psu=Low AA to Rd of 12
174: Iowa: Anywhere from 3rd to Rd of 12(hard to tell right now) psu= Rd of 16
184: Iowa= anywhere from 2nd to Rd of 12(depends a lot on his draw. If he could some how get Nickel & Dean on same side he could beat anybody else) psu=2nd or 3rd(sorry nobody is beating Dean)
197: Iowa=hoping for a NQ that could possibly win a match, psu=NQ that wins 1 or 2 matches.
Hwt: Iowa= anywhere from 3rd to 5th, psu=anywhere from 3rd to 5th.
Closer than you think eh...
 
OK let's compare:

125: Iowa= Champ, psu=3rd
133: Iowa=Champ (will be back late January), psu= Rd of 12 if he is lucky
141: Iowa NQ anywhere from Rd of 12 to 1-2, psu= similar results.
149: Iowa=2nd(any type of bet you wanna make I will take here, as long as he stays healthy), psu= Champ
157: Iowa= anywhere from 3rd to 8th, psu= Champ
165: Iowa=NQ( possibly more with the Bull but as of now I still say he keeps his shirt), psu=Low AA to Rd of 12
174: Iowa: Anywhere from 3rd to Rd of 12(hard to tell right now) psu= Rd of 16
184: Iowa= anywhere from 2nd to Rd of 12(depends a lot on his draw. If he could some how get Nickel & Dean on same side he could beat anybody else) psu=2nd or 3rd(sorry nobody is beating Dean)
197: Iowa=hoping for a NQ that could possibly win a match, psu=NQ that wins 1 or 2 matches.
Hwt: Iowa= anywhere from 3rd to 5th, psu=anywhere from 3rd to 5th.
Closer than you think eh...

But than you have the matter of bonus points ;) We would need more from 141 and 165 to offset it.
 
Last video of the morning from me. Bono post dual. Really comes across as a quality guy. Apparently, there must have been some talk that Clark was ducking Gross and he shot that down. "I know Tom Brands and Clark was hurt" and later "Clark is probably hurt"



My bike is calling. Enjoy the day.

Seems like a classy guy. Loves his job and the sport and appreciates the support giving to him.
Is a ISU lost for sure..Yes, he could be a good replacement at Minnesota but I would like him to
stay where he is at and keep building up that program..He leaves perhaps be talking in a few years down the road another school dropping wrestling which we don't need or want..just my opinion.
 
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This only guys that wrestled the iowa aggressive style were Brooks And gilman. A lot of stalling which was kind of embarrassing. Iowa wrestlers don't stall.

I'm not sure your last sentence is accurate.
 
It is early season. Were they the wrecking ball we want to see? No. good match. Not great but good.
At midlands I want to see them take more risk. What made teams of the past so great was they risked losing to win. Maybe give up a take down being agressive but come back still pushing with tough moves.

I don't mean risky moves. I mean just take the decent shot when it is there and not wait. Just attack even if the opportunity is only 70% there.
That would help get us where we want to be.
 
It is early season. Were they the wrecking ball we want to see? No. good match. Not great but good.
At midlands I want to see them take more risk. What made teams of the past so great was they risked losing to win. Maybe give up a take down being agressive but come back still pushing with tough moves.

I don't mean risky moves. I mean just take the decent shot when it is there and not wait. Just attack even if the opportunity is only 70% there.
That would help get us where we want to be.
Here is your wrecking ball 255
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that you wanted to see. Just wanted to put my 2 cents into this argument. Also another picture for Az when he's in the bathroom! Thinking of you Az, how's everything going? Prayers!
 
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OK let's compare:

125: Iowa= Champ, psu=3rd
133: Iowa=Champ (will be back late January), psu= Rd of 12 if he is lucky
141: Iowa NQ anywhere from Rd of 12 to 1-2, psu= similar results.
149: Iowa=2nd(any type of bet you wanna make I will take here, as long as he stays healthy), psu= Champ
157: Iowa= anywhere from 3rd to 8th, psu= Champ
165: Iowa=NQ( possibly more with the Bull but as of now I still say he keeps his shirt), psu=Low AA to Rd of 12
174: Iowa: Anywhere from 3rd to Rd of 12(hard to tell right now) psu= Rd of 16
184: Iowa= anywhere from 2nd to Rd of 12(depends a lot on his draw. If he could some how get Nickel & Dean on same side he could beat anybody else) psu=2nd or 3rd(sorry nobody is beating Dean)
197: Iowa=hoping for a NQ that could possibly win a match, psu=NQ that wins 1 or 2 matches.
Hwt: Iowa= anywhere from 3rd to 5th, psu=anywhere from 3rd to 5th.
Closer than you think eh...
Not bad but in my world which is lonely as only I live there and is detached from reality I have PSU with 10 AA
 
Here is your wrecking ball 255
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that you wanted to see. Just wanted to put my 2 cents into this argument. Also another picture for Az when he's in the bathroom! Thinking of you Az, how's everything going? Prayers!
someone should really revoke you privilege posting pictures
 
I agree, SDSU is no pushover team that we will just cake walk over, it was a bee hive and they were ready to take it to us, thought the freshman in the lineup responded well, Kemerer, Gunther, Wilcke, and Holloway. That was my biggest takeaway from this.

Kind of a funny side story, my roommate who knows very little about wrestling, basketball player his whole life, was watching with me, and he was very impressed by Kemerer and Wilcke due to the fact that they're freshman getting tough in a hostile environment. After watching Gilman wrestle he said "I don't even know the other guys in his weight class, and I don't care about the quality of the guy he was going against... just the way he moves and goes after him, plus his attitude, he looks like a champion to me."


Ahhh, glad date night went well for you!
 
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