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Seems like Fran is a liability right now on the sideline

KFsdisciple

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I was watching his demeanor during the game yesterday, it was the calmest Fran I've ever seen, it was like he was given a chill pill before the game. Its obvious he's on the naughty list, and he's got the short leash he's earned. But the team played with almost no passion yesterday and he seemed afraid to coach the team, certainly he had nothing to say to the officials... as the calls went 5-0,6-0,7-0 for Nebraska while his team is being mugged at both ends.

I get he can't tell the refs how he really feels, but when the team is sleep walking on the court the team needs the Fran that will get in their face and let them know its unacceptable. If this team is going to win another game, they need the Franimal back.
 
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I was watching his demeanor during the game yesterday, it was the calmest Fran I've ever seen, it was like he was given a chill pill before the game. Its obvious he's on the naughty list, and he's got the short leash he's earned. But the team played with almost no passion yesterday and he seemed afraid to coach the team, certainly he had nothing to say to the officials... as the calls went 5-0,6-0,7-0 for Nebraska while his team is being mugged at both ends.

I get he can't tell the refs how he really feels, but when the team is sleep walking on the court the team needs the Fran that will get in their face and let them know its unacceptable. If this team is going to win another game, they need the Franimal back.
Can't argue with any of this statement.
Felt the same way watching the game
 
So the theory here is he has to yell at the refs to somehow get psyched up to properly tell his team what they need to do?
 
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He does not have to yell at the refs but all could see he was not doing much coaching players on the floor standing with his arms crossed on his chest. No way he was going to make a scene.
Only time I seen him coaching was in the time out huddles.
 
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I thought Connor was about to get T'd yesterday. Looked to me that the ref told him to shut his mouth and pointed him to the other end of the court.
 
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He does not have to yell at the refs but all could see he was not doing much coaching players on the floor standing with his arms crossed on his chest. No way he was going to make a scene.
Only time I seen him coaching was in the time out huddles.

Well that’s an improvement. At most home games I witness Fran and staff standing at the lane talking for about 1-2min, then they go into the huddle for about 45sec-1min and then the horn sounds. I understand they are talking about situations, but damn they sit on the bench most of the game, why use that time to talk it over?
 
Fran's in a real crappy position. I don't think he can do anything right. Not trying to be a jerk, he's just under the microscope by everyone. He did make his bed but it's not right the kids have to pay for it.

Wrong. He can coach his basketball team effectively and get them playing at a high level. That would do it. Unfortunately that does reflect on the players...they're a byproduct of the coaching.
 
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Wrong. He can coach his basketball team effectively and get them playing at a high level. That would do it. Unfortunately that does reflect on the players...they're a byproduct of the coaching.

I think what he meant was do anything right as far as his behaviors go.... he can't be crazy because of his short leash, and if he's calm, he can't seem to properly motivate his players. I felt like yesterday he was afraid to have his players' backs the way a coach needs to because of his leash. I'm curious who has the gag order on him, because that's not same guy who's been coaching this team.
 
I think what he meant was do anything right as far as his behaviors go.... he can't be crazy because of his short leash, and if he's calm, he can't seem to properly motivate his players. I felt like yesterday he was afraid to have his players' backs the way a coach needs to because of his leash. I'm curious who has the gag order on him, because that's not same guy who's been coaching this team.

Pretty sure the Big Ten conference had something to say about his bahavior after the OSU game. Mind you this was his 2nd suspension at Iowa. What other Big Ten coaches have been suspended 2 times? I can’t think of any right now.
 
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I think what he meant was do anything right as far as his behaviors go.... he can't be crazy because of his short leash, and if he's calm, he can't seem to properly motivate his players. I felt like yesterday he was afraid to have his players' backs the way a coach needs to because of his leash. I'm curious who has the gag order on him, because that's not same guy who's been coaching this team.

Yeah, he's definitely in a tough spot. But as you said, it's largely of his own doing.
 
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Fran is a hot-head and red-faced coach. He has no
clue what it means to be a role model for his players
This is the big difference between Coach Fran and
Coach Ferentz. Parents actually want their sons to
play for Ferentz..
 
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Well that’s an improvement. At most home games I witness Fran and staff standing at the lane talking for about 1-2min, then they go into the huddle for about 45sec-1min and then the horn sounds. I understand they are talking about situations, but damn they sit on the bench most of the game, why use that time to talk it over?

That is how FM (and assistants) have coached most time outs for nine years now.

The coaches gather for the first part and then address the team for the second part. You’d think a season ticket holder would know this.
 
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Fran's in a real crappy position. I don't think he can do anything right. Not trying to be a jerk, he's just under the microscope by everyone. He did make his bed but it's not right the kids have to pay for it.

He is in a crappy position and can blame nobody but himself as you said. If he recruited players that could defend at this level, it would help his cause. If he demanded his players actually play defense and bust their tails getting back on defense, it would help his cause. If he did anything but try to outscore opponents night in and night out, it would help his cause. If he had better control of his emotions, it would help his cause. The kids have to accept responsibility too for this dive, but it starts with the coach and he has nobody else to blame but himself.
 
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That is how FM (and assistants) have coached most time outs for nine years now.

The coaches gather for the first part and then address the team for the second part. You’d think a season ticket holder would know this.

Did you not see my post where I said at home
Games I witnessed that! I have noticed that since day 1, so I was shocked to hear he was actually in the huddle coaching. Reading comprehension must not be your strong suit.

Regardless when Mark t, John B, and other successful coaches came to carver they never stood and talked. They were coaching the entire TO.
 
Did you not see my post where I said at home
Games I witnessed that! I have noticed that since day 1, so I was shocked to hear he was actually in the huddle coaching. Reading comprehension must not be your strong suit.

Regardless when Mark t, John B, and other successful coaches came to carver they never stood and talked. They were coaching the entire TO.

I gathered what you said just fine. I’m baffled that a season ticket holder wouldn’t know this has been his MO. I’m even more perplexed that a season ticket holder would accuse FM of “sit(ting) on the bench most of the game”. Fran is up pacing the sideline for about 85-90% of the live action.
 
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I gathered what you said just fine. I’m baffled that a season ticket holder wouldn’t know this has been his MO. I’m even more perplexed that a season ticket holder would accuse FM of “sit(ting) on the bench most of the game”. Fran is up pacing the sideline for about 85-90% of the live action.

Again they are on the bench talking (standing/sitting) they are always talking either him and speraw or one of the other assistants. Why waste that 1-2min talking and instead use for coaching. Just an observation I’ve noticed. Again shocked he was actually coaching in the huddle yesterday.

I’ve also Fran wastes a lot of time arguing with officials at Iowa games. Hey also the ice cream lines are always long. You have a solution to those problems too?
 
Fran is a hot-head and red-faced coach. He has no
clue what it means to be a role model for his players
This is the big difference between Coach Fran and
Coach Ferentz. Parents actually want their sons to
play for Ferentz..
Over. The. Top. And I get on Fran often, but I don’t feel you’re being fair. Every account I’ve heard is that he’s a very good person off the court.
 
Again they are on the bench talking (standing/sitting) they are always talking either him and speraw or one of the other assistants. Why waste that 1-2min talking and instead use for coaching. Just an observation I’ve noticed. Again shocked he was actually coaching in the huddle yesterday.

I’ve also Fran wastes a lot of time arguing with officials at Iowa games. Hey also the ice cream lines are always long. You have a solution to those problems too?

Why are you asking me for solutions, you’re the one interjecting your thoughts on how to improve things. You seem to have the answers, guy.

So Fran is always sitting down, always talking to his coaches, and wastes a lot of time arguing with the refs? Are we sure there’s only one Fran McCaffery on the Iowa sideline?
 
Bad luck, bad shooting day, bad officiating, can't yell at the officials, we never get the calls...…….all excuses - bad ones at that
 
Why are you asking me for solutions, you’re the one interjecting your thoughts on how to improve things. You seem to have the answers, guy.

So Fran is always sitting down, always talking to his coaches, and wastes a lot of time arguing with the refs? Are we sure there’s only one Fran McCaffery on the Iowa sideline?

Yup your comprehension needs a little work. It’s okay if you can’t understand what a normal person is saying. I stated an observation based on what I see when I’m at games. Judging by our 10-10 record my observation is true. Fran can’t coach!
 
But Connor NEVER fouls - haven't you noticed his reaction when he gets whistled...…?

based on the things that are happening to him on the court that are going un-called, I can see why he might feel that way. Few players who are elbowed in the face often agree with them receiving the foul call.
 
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Fran's in a real crappy position. I don't think he can do anything right. Not trying to be a jerk, he's just under the microscope by everyone. He did make his bed but it's not right the kids have to pay for it.
He can thank himself for the situation he finds himself in. He needs a severe dose of anger management. I switched over to the UNI vs Bradley game and I saw Jacobsen calmly accept the flagrant 1 call on the dead ball technical that resulted in a 6 point possession for Bradley and you would never have know by his demeanor or the team's play that the call went against them. In my opinion, Coach McCaffery would have made it worse by getting T'd up.
 
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Yup your comprehension needs a little work. It’s okay if you can’t understand what a normal person is saying. I stated an observation based on what I see when I’m at games. Judging by our 10-10 record my observation is true. Fran can’t coach!

I guess. Maybe the normal person can explain how Fran can be in three different places at once.

Would you say a coach with a 4-14 record could coach? What about 5-13?
 
Fran is a hot-head and red-faced coach. He has no
clue what it means to be a role model for his players
This is the big difference between Coach Fran and
Coach Ferentz. Parents actually want their sons to
play for Ferentz.
.

You may be more right than you know.
 
I guess. Maybe the normal person can explain how Fran can be in three different places at once.

Would you say a coach with a 4-14 record could coach? What about 5-13?

Because that’s what I said. I observe him at times arguing with the officials. Did I say every time out or every time down the floor. At various times he is talking to his coaches and players. Again he doesn’t use the full Tim out like other coaches do. Comprehension and understanding is pretty basic. If your nit picking about everything I say, then I’m done with you.
 
The whole staff is a liability on the side lines. Provides absolutely nothing for this team.:confused:
 
Yup your comprehension needs a little work. It’s okay if you can’t understand what a normal person is saying. I stated an observation based on what I see when I’m at games. Judging by our 10-10 record my observation is true. Fran can’t coach!

I dont see why you have to be like that. I dont see why a normal conversation needs to turn into something ridiculous as making fun of someone's reading comprehension.

And I dont think your observations are true. Obviously he has gotten to this point by coaching his way here. I'd say he can coach...just not the way you expect. Yes, there are some changes that need to be had. His temperament is one and how he runs his practices is another. Anyone who has experience in coaching/teaching can see something isnt right mentally or physically. Things were better yesterday, but if you have any footage of them going back to a huddle during a timeout watch their body language and heads. There is something way off.
 
I dont see why you have to be like that. I dont see why a normal conversation needs to turn into something ridiculous as making fun of someone's reading comprehension.

And I dont think your observations are true. Obviously he has gotten to this point by coaching his way here. I'd say he can coach...just not the way you expect. Yes, there are some changes that need to be had. His temperament is one and how he runs his practices is another. Anyone who has experience in coaching/teaching can see something isnt right mentally or physically. Things were better yesterday, but if you have any footage of them going back to a huddle during a timeout watch their body language and heads. There is something way off.

You thinking something serious? Wasnt the last time we free falled was when Frans son had cancer? Ya think maybe something serious came to light in the recent weeks?
 
Because that’s what I said. I observe him at times arguing with the officials. Did I say every time out or every time down the floor. At various times he is talking to his coaches and players. Again he doesn’t use the full Tim out like other coaches do. Comprehension and understanding is pretty basic. If your nit picking about everything I say, then I’m done with you.

You said that a 10-10 (B1G) record proves that Fran can’t coach. Does that mean a coach with a 4-14 record or a 5-13 record can’t coach either?

You pointed out something that this staff has done for nine seasons now and had no clue that it was normal for them. I found it odd that a fine season ticket holder wouldn’t know this.
 
You said that a 10-10 (B1G) record proves that Fran can’t coach. Does that mean a coach with a 4-14 record or a 5-13 record can’t coach either?

You pointed out something that this staff has done for nine seasons now and had no clue that it was normal for them. I found it odd that a fine season ticket holder wouldn’t know this.

I’ve noticed it before and even mentioned it before in other threads. Why are you hung up on a season ticket holder pointing something out.

What can they do about the ice cream line, since you have all the answers (or is that something a season ticket holder shouldn’t complain about as well). Too much for ya.
 
You thinking something serious? Wasnt the last time we free falled was when Frans son had cancer? Ya think maybe something serious came to light in the recent weeks?

Yeah, I'm thinking serious. We all agree Fran does a hell of a lot of yelling. We've seen a lot of players get blasted in the open by him. What if this is happening more often behind closed doors? Constant yelling at practice leads to constant running that leads to fatigued legs...more importantly mental fatigue. Watch them play defense. They look so unsure of how to play it because they dont know what's going to be called and what's not. I think Fran has broken them mentally. Just an observation from over 12 years of teaching and coaching. I've seen this look many times before, unfortunately .
 
I’ve noticed it before and even mentioned it before in other threads. Why are you hung up on a season ticket holder pointing something out.

What can they do about the ice cream line, since you have all the answers (or is that something a season ticket holder shouldn’t complain about as well). Too much for ya.

I’ve noticed you’re hung up on the ice cream line. You keep asking me for solutions, but it’s really you that interjects his input on how to make things better. I haven’t offered a solution yet, which the same can’t be said for you.

For the record, I’ve never had a Carver Cone. I go to the games (football and basketball) to watch the game. Not to stand in line for 30 min. I don’t care one bit about the soft serve at CHA.

Why are you ignoring my 10-10 coaching question? You made the comment.
 
I’ve noticed you’re hung up on the ice cream line. You keep asking me for solutions, but it’s really you that interjects his input on how to make things better. I haven’t offered a solution yet, which the same can’t be said for you.

For the record, I’ve never had a Carver Cone. I go to the games (football and basketball) to watch the game. Not to stand in line for 30 min. I don’t care one bit about the soft serve at CHA.

Why are you ignoring my 10-10 coaching question? You made the comment.

Sorry yeah Fran can’t coach. His curent team has quit. His other teams in the past have quit on him. So yeah 10-10 is not tremendous. It’s laughable with one of the easier Big Ten slates. 4-14 and 3-15 coaches probably can’t coach either, but they will make changes to their programs. Fran chooses not to and it’s his bed he’s making.
 
He can thank himself for the situation he finds himself in. He needs a severe dose of anger management. I switched over to the UNI vs Bradley game and I saw Jacobsen calmly accept the flagrant 1 call on the dead ball technical that resulted in a 6 point possession for Bradley and you would never have know by his demeanor or the team's play that the call went against them. In my opinion, Coach McCaffery would have made it worse by getting T'd up.
Oh, I agree and by no means am a I a big Fran supporter. I've been pretty hard on him. This post that Fran is a liability just made me think what, if anything, can Fran do to right the ship. The past is the past but if refs are holding a grudge, I'm not really sure what Fran can do even if he finally "gets it". He's dug such a hole, one has to ask if it's even possible for him to dig out of it. I mean he's put the players in a terrible position yet they are the only ones who can help him.

There seems like there has to be some sort of truce called. If this can't happen, Fran will remain a liability. I'm not sure how to fix this without $9 million.
 
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Sorry yeah Fran can’t coach. His curent team has quit. His other teams in the past have quit on him. So yeah 10-10 is not tremendous. It’s laughable with one of the easier Big Ten slates. 4-14 and 3-15 coaches probably can’t coach either, but they will make changes to their programs. Fran chooses not to and it’s his bed he’s making.

Dr Tom was 4-14, then 9-9 the next season. Dr Tom was 5-13 and then 9-9 the season after that. I guess by your definition, Dr Tom couldn’t coach either.

I never mentioned 3-15.
 
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