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| OLYMPIC TRIALS QUALIFYING CRITERIA | 57KG |
| Senior World Champ | Vito Arujau |
| 2023 World Team member | Zane Richards |
| 2020 Olympic Team member | Thomas Gilman |
| 2019 World Team member | Daton Fix |
| Bill Farrel Champion | Spencer Lee |
| 2023 U17 World champion 55 kg | Marcus Blaze |
| Dec. 2023 Senior Nationals Finalist | Nico Megaludis (Other Finalist Spencer Lee Already Qualified) |
| Dec. 2023 Senior Nationals 3rd/4th | Liam Cronin |
| Dec. 2023 Senior Nationals 3rd/4th | Daniel DeShazer |
| Dec. 2023 Senior Nationals fifth place | Luke Lilledahl |
| 2024 Pan American Championships champion | Can't imagine anyone not on this page goes to Pan Ams? |
| 2024 Pan American Olympic Qualifier | None will be added here. Only Zane can qualify 57kg at this time |
| 2024 NCAA Div. I champion | March 2024 |
| Last Chance Qualifier Champion | March 2024 |
| Qualified at 61kg, Could Come Down | |
| 2019 World Team member 61kg Tyler Graff | |
| 2018 World Finals Trials Champion | Nahshon Garrett |
| 2018 World Team Member 61kg | Joe Colon |
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I think that drama is pretty one sided. Lee is involved just because he happened to be the reason Gilman ran away for IC.
Drama or no drama, it’s a really interesting matchup stylistically. There aren’t many at 57 kg that can handle Spencer’s man strength. Gilman stingy defense will be put to the test. I imagine his gameplan would be to keep it close and try to wear SL out and edge out a close match(s).
Agree, he will be the most dangerous 5 seed in many years. That puts him on the side with the one seed, correct??
1,4,5,8,9 are on 1 side and 2,3,6,7,10 are on the other.
1 would meet 8 or 9 in quarters and get the winner of 4 vs 5 in the other quarter.
2 would meet 7 or 10 in quarters and get the winner of 3 vs 6 in the other quarter.
Edited to add: this is assuming all higher seeds progress without being upset. To be clear, 1 vs 4 and 2 vs 3 would be “chalk” semis.
Agreed, he'll be the 5 unless he can get an invite from USAW to the ranking series event in early January and knock off one (or both) of Richards/Gilman
Hope he gets invite just to see where he is against top guys .
Agreed, the tank seemed a little better than Farrell but still isn't where he'll need to be.
Using last OTT as reference, Vito won't be "seeded" as he has pass to the semis. Dake had same situation and they placed him on side with 2&3 seeds. Assuming seeds are Richards, Gilman, Fix, Spencer, then-
Richards/Spencer top
Gilman/Fix/Vito bottom
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Richards/Spencer top
Gilman/Fix/Vito bottom
What Olympic Trials Bracket Will Look Like - FloWrestling
Plugging Olympic Trials seeds into brackets, this is what they will look like.
Interesting, then it seems like Spencer's best bet would be to hold seed as is.Using last OTT as reference, Vito won't be "seeded" as he has pass to the semis. Dake had same situation and they placed him on side with 2&3 seeds. Assuming seeds are Richards, Gilman, Fix, Spencer, then-
Richards/Spencer top
Gilman/Fix/Vito bottom
What Olympic Trials Bracket Will Look Like - FloWrestling
Plugging Olympic Trials seeds into brackets, this is what they will look like.
Thanks. If they do the same as Dake, winner of 1 vs. 4/5 goes to finals and winner of 2 vs. 3 would face Arujau. I like Spencer‘s chances better as #4.Using last OTT as reference, Vito won't be "seeded" as he has pass to the semis. Dake had same situation and they placed him on side with 2&3 seeds. Assuming seeds are Richards, Gilman, Fix, Spencer, then-
Richards/Spencer top
Gilman/Fix/Vito bottom
What Olympic Trials Bracket Will Look Like - FloWrestling
Plugging Olympic Trials seeds into brackets, this is what they will look like.
Vito is the only match up on that list I don't like for Spencer. He's better in all positions than everyone else imo.
Does this go over 2 days?? If so, maybe making second day weight for Vito will be tough and affect his energy
With how often Megaludis was able to get to his legs over two matches, Vito is very much a concern for me.
Vito on the bottom in the semis. With Fix and Gilman. Up top Richards the 1 with Spencer vs Nico the 4&5 . Couldn't be better for SpencerUsing last OTT as reference, Vito won't be "seeded" as he has pass to the semis. Dake had same situation and they placed him on side with 2&3 seeds. Assuming seeds are Richards, Gilman, Fix, Spencer, then-
Richards/Spencer top
Gilman/Fix/Vito bottom
What Olympic Trials Bracket Will Look Like - FloWrestling
Plugging Olympic Trials seeds into brackets, this is what they will look like.
So does the Pan Am winner qualify the weight for Parris, or does simply making the finals qualify the weight for both finalists?
Vito was at his best, but that was at 133 and 61kg. The extra 8 or so lbs is a tremendous difference for Vito at this point. I dont think he can be as good as he was, although I think he still maybe be Spencer's toughest matchup.
Great question. RBY will be there for Mexico I believe.
Agreed, Gilman utilize push outs and keep the score as low as possible. Wear Spencer down and win late.
Hopefully, Spencer gets in quick and goes gut wrench / ankle lace city and wins early.
Thats bad juju against Spencer. One of Gilman's strengths is his ability to push guys around but Spencer is best with guys in ties and pushing into him. Where Spencer has had issues is guys darting in...the quicker guys. This is why I would expect RBY or Vito (at their best) to be a worse matchup for Spencer.than Gilman. With those guys, its going to be how much weight comes into play. I imagine NLWC will adjust and have Gilman watch his forward pressure and keep his arms posted, straight arm on Spencer and wear on the neck to try and take in the 2nd.
So that Spencer vs RBY we always talked about might actually happen. Good news.
The 2 semifinal winners qualify their country for the Olympics. There will not be a finals match. They are seeding top 4.
Not sure if I'm overlooking someone, but RBY and Darian Cruz are most likely the biggest threats to keeping Zane from qualifying the weight.
I believe they’re are two Pan Am’s? The regular Pan AM tourney which isn’t an Olympic qualifier, I believe it is a ranking series event?
The 2nd is the Pan Am Olympic qualifying tournament?
If we don’t qualify the weight at this event, we have 1 last shot, kind of like a last chance Olympics qualifying event. Jordan Oliver lost at this event in 2021, thus USA didn’t have an 65kg. entrant at the last Olympics.
The 2nd is the Pan Am Olympic qualifying tournament?
If we don’t qualify the weight at this event, we have 1 last shot, kind of like a last chance Olympics qualifying event. Jordan Oliver lost at this event in 2021, thus USA didn’t have an 65kg. entrant at the last Olympics.
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No finals and no repechage. It's a qualifier, so whole purpose is to secure a quota. Article in tweet gives more info.
Yep. UWW has dates for "regular" Pan Ams as Feb 21-24. 10 weights, full rosters. Will be a finals and repechage. I believe that you are correct that it's a ranking event as well.
The Pan Ams "qualifier" is listed for Feb 28- Mar 01. Olympic weights only, not full rosters, countries only compete at weights not qualified(57&65 for USA). Only wrestled thru semis as top 2 secure quota, no repechage.
Do you have any opinions on whether or not USAW decides to challenge for the Pan Am spot? I would think at this point USAW knows we have zero margin for error here.
