Correct.I said unvaccinated.
You are of the belief a child should not be able to attend public school because they may or may not have been vaccinated for covid?
Correct.I said unvaccinated.
I believe unvaccinated children should not be allowed to attend public school.Correct.
You are of the belief a child should not be able to attend public school because they may or may not have been vaccinated for covid?
I believe unvaccinated children should not be allowed to attend public school.
Same rules that applied to me when I attended school 50+ years ago.
And all vaccines should fit under this or the required MMR you had?I believe unvaccinated children should not be allowed to attend public school.
Same rules that applied to me when I attended school 50+ years ago.
Just like I don’t understand the people getting 6 Covid boosters and the flu shot every year. Should we call you the excessive-vaxx people and complain about you and your types?
None of your God damn business.....that's the point.How many covid vaccines and flu shots have you gotten since 2020?
Why do you keep saying this ridiculous line?COVID and flu shots aren't vaccines
Never said, "all vaccines." That's up to state departments of public health to determine (or related offices with pertinent jurisdiction).And all vaccines should fit under this or the required MMR you had?
So the same required vaccinations you had 50 years ago, that are still in effect today.......Never said, "all vaccines." That's up to state departments of public health to determine (or related offices with pertinent jurisdiction).
Why do you keep saying this ridiculous line?
Honestly, I wouldn't know because I'm not a public health expert. I've read about newer vaccines for things like chickenpox and Hep B, but I have no idea if public health departments are mandating those. I'm comfortable with whatever those current mandates are.So the same required vaccinations you had 50 years ago, that are still in effect today.......
It's what Hannity tells him every night.
Beecuz Muh FreeDumbs!!!!Why are you opposed to vaccinating school children?
I'm not. I'm opposed to not allowing children to attend school because they/their parents evaluated the risk of covid and decided not to take a trial injection.Honestly, I wouldn't know because I'm not a public health expert. I've read about newer vaccines for things like chickenpox and Hep B, but I have no idea if public health departments are mandating those. I'm comfortable with whatever those current mandates are.
Why are you opposed to vaccinating school children?
Then we're talking about two totally different things.I'm not. I'm opposed to not allowing children to attend school because they/their parents evaluated the risk of covid and decided not to take a trial injection.
and i assume your proposal also includes a corresponding actuarial reduction in premium cost?Anti-vax parents should sign a waiver, that any vaccinable disease OR side effect from the communicable disease they or their kids need to be treated for will be paid 100% OOP in order to "skip" mandated vaccines.
No insurer needs to cover any of it.
No Medicaid
No Medicare
You want to skip the vaccines, then you sit at home and try Airborne or something for whatever ails you.
And any debt you rack up for care works like student debt - cannot be erased by bankrupcy. You owe those funds in perpetuity and your kids can inherit them.
And parents of children who die of mycarditis post exposure to the covid vaccine? Do they get to sue the balls off your beloved Pfizer?Anti-vax parents should sign a waiver, that any vaccinable disease OR side effect from the communicable disease they or their kids need to be treated for will be paid 100% OOP in order to "skip" mandated vaccines.
No insurer needs to cover any of it.
No Medicaid
No Medicare
You want to skip the vaccines, then you sit at home and try Airborne or something for whatever ails you.
And any debt you rack up for care works like student debt - cannot be erased by bankrupcy. You owe those funds in perpetuity and your kids can inherit them.
It's not just "their consequences". That's the whole point. There are people who - for medical reasons - can't get particular vaccinations. The larger the unvaxxed population, the greater risk those people are at. People who get preventable diseases who then seek treatment raise costs for everyone else. If they want to go unvaxxed, they should be masked when in public and if they get sick from a disease they could have avoided, they should have to post a bond to get treated.It appears you are making it about you. You even said you interjected yourself into their decisions. Like it or not, it's their rights, their children and their consequences.
Brought to you by Pfizer!!!Anti-vax parents should sign a waiver, that any vaccinable disease OR side effect from the communicable disease they or their kids need to be treated for will be paid 100% OOP in order to "skip" mandated vaccines.
No insurer needs to cover any of it.
No Medicaid
No Medicare
You want to skip the vaccines, then you sit at home and try Airborne or something for whatever ails you.
And any debt you rack up for care works like student debt - cannot be erased by bankrupcy. You owe those funds in perpetuity and your kids can inherit them........
Don’t schools ask for shot records, currently?Unvaccinated kids shouldn't be allowed in school. Full stop.
Anyone can sue anybody.And parents of children who die of mycarditis post exposure to the covid vaccine? Do they get to sue the balls off your beloved Pfizer?
That's my assumption. And they should.Don’t schools ask for shot records, currently?
Mind your own ****ing business. You seem alike the assholes in California that want to charge parents with negligence that refuse to give their children ADHD drugs.My anti-vaxx cousin and family (2 kids under age 8) are sick as dogs with the flu.
All are un-vaxxed and didn't get the flu shot. I tried to entourage them to get vaxxed to the max but they didn't want to.
I get the flu shot every October. I had 6 covid vaccines. No side effects. I think they all got 1 or 2 covid vaccines years ago because they were forced to.
I feel like anti-vaxx parents should get fined or deported if/when their un-vaxxed kids get sick.
What do you think?
Unfortunately not. One of the smartest things the drug companies did early in the covid pandemic was get the United states government to release them from any liability.Anyone can sue anybody.
Why do you keep saying this ridiculous line?
It feels like you're peddling another conspiracy theory. After a quick google search I found some data that suggest contracting Covid19 is about six times more likely to cause myocarditis than the vaccine. So apparently it's not even a thing.Unfortunately not. One of the smartest things the drug companies did early in the covid pandemic was get the United states government to release them from any liability.
That right there should have been the red flag that killed it, it Unfortunately was not.
It's not just "their consequences". That's the whole point. There are people who - for medical reasons - can't get particular vaccinations. The larger the unvaxxed population, the greater risk those people are at. People who get preventable diseases who then seek treatment raise costs for everyone else. If they want to go unvaxxed, they should be masked when in public and if they get sick from a disease they could have avoided, they should have to post a bond to get treated.
And mean my kids had to, here. They do allow for exceptions if I recall though.That's my assumption. And they should.
Covid has been found to cause myocarditis at a higher level than the vaccine. The vaccine has been found to cause higher levels of myocarditis than someone who does not get covid or the vaccine.It feels like you're peddling another conspiracy theory. After a quick google search I found some data that suggest contracting Covid19 is about six times more likely to cause myocarditis than the vaccine. So apparently it's not even a thing.
"Risk of complications after COVID‐19 vaccine versus with COVID‐19 infection: data were obtained from a national study in Israel. Each cohort consisted of more than 800 000 individuals. Relative risk for developing myocarditis after vaccine was 3.2, while it is 18.3 after getting COVID‐19."
They do. In fact I had an allergic reaction to my DTaP vaccine, so I was exempted from completing the series.And mean my kids had to, here. They do allow for exceptions if I recall though.
No. Not when at best the covid vaccines are a potential risk in only .000004 of the population (3.2/800,000).Covid has been found to cause myocarditis at a higher level than the vaccine. The vaccine has been found to cause higher levels of myocarditis than someone who does not get covid or the vaccine.
So, knowing the united states government stepped in and absolved pharma of liability, would you like to retract your statement on who should and shouldn't be making decisions based of school eligibility off a trial vaccine?
Thank you for providing that number. Could you also provide the mortality rate for school age children who had less than 2 additional comorbidities? What youbare going to find is that number is also astronomically low, so, then the conversation needs to take place on whether knowing you are putting your kid in minimal amount of risk is worse than knowing you are not going to vaccinated and taking the chance the kid will not get covid and thus have the lowest possibility of myocarditis. A conversation for the family, not some dude who thinks kids that are not* vaccinated shouldn't go to school.No. Not when at best the covid vaccines are a potential risk in only .000004 of the population (3.2/800,000).
They don’t in Iowa, at least not where we live.Don’t schools ask for shot records, currently?
Do you know how I know you don’t understand herd immunity?If you are vaxxed, you are safe right? Why do you care?
It's a public health decision, which is what I've stated from the start. Kids stand a greater chance of getting killed in a school bus accident than they do from a covid vaccine. You and the other anti vaxxers are just contrarians.Thank you for providing that number. Could you also provide the mortality rate for school age children who had less than 2 additional comorbidities? What youbare going to find is that number is also astronomically low, so, then the conversation needs to take place on whether knowing you are putting your kid in minimal amount of risk is worse than knowing you are not going to vaccinated and taking the chance the kid will not get covid and thus have the lowest possibility of myocarditis. A conversation for the family, not some dude who thinks kids that are not* vaccinated shouldn't go to school.
I'm not the one trying to say someone's kids shouldn't get to go to school.It's a public health decision, which is what I've stated from the start. Kids stand a greater chance of getting killed in a school bus accident than they do from a covid vaccine. You and the other anti vaxxers are just contrarians.
Why would there be?and i assume your proposal also includes a corresponding actuarial reduction in premium cost?