Warfarin, Lasix, Epogen, Toradol? Sounds like a comprehension with poorly educated patient problem. If you are not smart enough to follow instructions, well?????
Should the government give away Ozempic?
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The warning has NOTHING to do with dosing errors per: insert.
The product itself carries inherent risks which can be life threatening.
Where you trying to use AI to right your reply?
insert)? Or just copy and pasted wrong. Most medications carry risks, many life threatening. It's about weighting risk vs reward about living or dying.
Does Tylenol or Advil have a black box warning? Tylenol can cause liver damage, Advil can cause gastric ulcers. Both can lead to bleeding, cancer or organ failure.
To say "just avoid all black box medications" is pretty cowardly. That's why you trust a medical professional to help make those decisions. That's if you actually listen to them, though.
The warning is providing required risk information. No matter how small the risk.
No, absolutely not. Ozempic, or any weight loss drug, is not a magic pill that make fat people skinny. It's an "assist" for people that decide to exercise and eat right. If it's free it will just be wasted.
It was developed as a type 2 diabetes drug. It was only after the trials I believe that they realized that it had pretty significant weight loss benefits. I've researched Ozempic/Wegovy and Mounjaro/Zepbound pretty extensively and there are a ton of benefits outside of the primary use as a drug for type 2 diabetes and weight loss. People are reporting that they are having less cravings for nicotine or alcohol, better mental health, cardiac benefits, better cognitive function, and lower inflammation. If studies can back up what users are reporting it would be a no brainer for Medicare and others to cover it. But, as is becoming increasingly common in the US, people would much rather punish others for not meeting whatever perfect standards they thing they should meet rather than meet them where they are and help them get to a better place.
If anyone would like more info on the Semaglutide and Tirzepitide benefits this is a pretty good article. https://www.forbes.com/sites/robert...ditions-heres-what-scientists-are-looking-at/
I think that the government should give me free Ozempic to counter all of my weight gain from my free EBT Twinkies and My Dew! It's only fair.
Type 2 diabetic here
Had a below knee amputation last year due to chronic bone infection that was complicated by diabetes.
I wanted to save my other leg so as soon as I got my prosthetic I vowed to cleanup my diet and try to get cardio.
5'11" 237lbs.
Dropped 20 lbs dieting.
Doc suggested ozempic.
Took it and dropped another 15 lbs then plateaued.
Got a cross trainer machine for home and have dropped another 35lbs to get to 167.
Took 11 months.
Phasing off ozempic the last month.
Weight stable.
Saw doc today and he says all my numbers are very good now.
My A1C is 5.4..was 12 2 yrs ago
Off all diabetes meds now.
Novodisks patent on ozempic expires in 2026.
Generics make it cheaper.
My Medicare advantage plan had co-pay of 47/month for script til I hit the donut hole in June.
My co-pay jumped to 248/month.
Glad I am weaning off.
Determined to stay around 170.
Wish I had been able to use this drug 15 yrs ago...i would have 2 legs now.
And yes when it gets cheap, covering it will save systems billions. My surgeries exceeded 350k.
Had a below knee amputation last year due to chronic bone infection that was complicated by diabetes.
I wanted to save my other leg so as soon as I got my prosthetic I vowed to cleanup my diet and try to get cardio.
5'11" 237lbs.
Dropped 20 lbs dieting.
Doc suggested ozempic.
Took it and dropped another 15 lbs then plateaued.
Got a cross trainer machine for home and have dropped another 35lbs to get to 167.
Took 11 months.
Phasing off ozempic the last month.
Weight stable.
Saw doc today and he says all my numbers are very good now.
My A1C is 5.4..was 12 2 yrs ago
Off all diabetes meds now.
Novodisks patent on ozempic expires in 2026.
Generics make it cheaper.
My Medicare advantage plan had co-pay of 47/month for script til I hit the donut hole in June.
My co-pay jumped to 248/month.
Glad I am weaning off.
Determined to stay around 170.
Wish I had been able to use this drug 15 yrs ago...i would have 2 legs now.
And yes when it gets cheap, covering it will save systems billions. My surgeries exceeded 350k.
I'm not saying they're simple. Not remotely. But they aren't simple bc our government agencies have allowed this to worsen for decades, largely bc they're captured by the industries they should be regulating. So instead of doing what's hard (and right) and fixing the root cause, we'll give people another shot or pill and pretend like that's a fix.
Good luck jt. Good on you for doing the hard work and making the lifestyle changes as well.
You don’t know what a package insert is?Where you trying to use AI to right your reply?
Most medications carry risks, many life threatening. It's about weighting risk vs reward about living or dying.
Does Tylenol or Advil have a black box warning? Tylenol can cause liver damage, Advil can cause gastric ulcers. Both can lead to bleeding, cancer or organ failure.
To say "just avoid all black box medications" is pretty cowardly. That's why you trust a medical professional to help make those decisions. That's if you actually listen to them, though.
Are you Joe’s re’tahdud protégé?
Yes, but the MAGAs are gonna throw a shit-fit if we "give it away for free"
(which we don't: it becomes covered under Medicare, which you pay for)
Your buddy was insinuating the dangers were from Ozempic overdosing.
And a black box warning has nothing to do with ‘small risk’ information.
Ozemlic is a lifetime drug, not a jump start one. The fact that they're trying to push this on kids as young as 6 for obesity is astounding. The tax payer needs to stop paying 10 billion a year to big soda as a single example. Think of all the downstream costs associated with that stupidity.
Yes; it absolutely does. Anything that shows up as a risk is on the label.
Tylenol has very low risks and a very good safety profile; those risks are still on the labeling.
You are well out of your league on this topic.
A Novo Nordisk weight loss drug lowers BMI in kids as young as 6
Liraglutide is an older version of the popular GLP-1 drugs, which include Ozempic. But questions remain about starting kids on a lifelong drug so young.
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Weird..
A Novo Nordisk weight loss drug lowers BMI in kids as young as 6
Liraglutide is an older version of the popular GLP-1 drugs, which include Ozempic. But questions remain about starting kids on a lifelong drug so young.
Weird..
With the exception of drugs for rare genetic disorders that cause obesity, there are no pharmaceutical options for obesity in children under 12.
Who is "trying to push it" on kids?A Novo Nordisk weight loss drug lowers BMI in kids as young as 6
Liraglutide is an older version of the popular GLP-1 drugs, which include Ozempic. But questions remain about starting kids on a lifelong drug so young.
Weird..
They ran a trial for kids that have no other options available.
A Novo Nordisk weight loss drug lowers BMI in kids as young as 6
Liraglutide is an older version of the popular GLP-1 drugs, which include Ozempic. But questions remain about starting kids on a lifelong drug so young.
Weird..
In 2023, the American Academy of Pediatrics released new guidelines for treating childhood obesity, recommending for the first time weight loss drugs and, in some cases, surgery for children ages 12 and up. For kids under 12, the guidelines endorsed working closely with pediatricians and other health care providers to focus on lifestyle changes.
Dr. Sarah Armstrong, a professor of pediatrics at Duke University and a co-author of the American Academy of Pediatrics guidelines, said that medication will probably be necessary for children with severe obesity; that is, a BMI of at least 35.
“It is pretty clear that without effective treatment, this does tend to get worse, not better, over time,” Armstrong said. “If a child has severe obesity and maybe has developed some early life comorbidities, it’s probably the right thing to do.”
What's your medical degree background, Cletus?
Someone didn't read that medications like this actually LOWER overall costs for healthcare.
If you gave a shit about the debt, you'd fight to reverse the tax cuts (mainly for the wealthiest Americans) that have helped make it worse by dropping revenues 2% lower than the long-term averages.
Yes, that is their justification for giving the drugs to children as young as 6 to see what happens... hint: 6 year olds took it.
So they gave 6 year olds ozempic..
This is justification for why they gave 6 year olds ozempic.
Thank you for confirming my statement that they're giving this drug to 6 year olds.
Because they TREAT 6 yr olds who have obesity problems.
And they KNOW what happens later in life to kids who do not have any treatments available for them.
Perhaps you could email those pediatricians and ASK THEM about their decision processes here.
Joes Place now defending 6 year olds getting ozempic after originally claiming it didn't happen is peak joes place. Loser can't admit when he's 180'd on an argument.
Anyone trying to equate ‘slight inflammation at the injection site’ type warning to a black box warning is nothing but a Pharma shill.
Oh, and Tylenol has ‘very low risks and a very good safety profile’? LMFAO!
Acetaminophen overdose is the leading cause for calls to Poison Control Centers (>100,000/year) and accounts for more than 56,000 emergency room visits, 2,600 hospitalizations, and an estimated 458 deaths due to acute liver failure each year. Data from the U.S. Acute Liver Failure Study Group registry of more than 700 patients with acute liver failure across the United States implicates acetaminophen poisoning in nearly 50% of all acute liver failure in this country.
It’s ad ‘nauseam’, genius.
Not ad nauseum.
In January, the American Academy of Pediatrics issued new and controversial guidelines recommending weight loss drugs to kids as young as 12 and weight loss surgery for those just one year older.
Whichever federal agency is paying you to spread misinformation on behalf of Big Pharma is getting ripped off. No wonder this country is $35 trillion in debt. 🤡
So you're admitting that your original statement claiming 6 year olds never got ozempic was a lie?
Yes, Pfoes Pflace is a known big pharma shill. Human garbage pushing lies for one of the most harmful and corrupt industries in the world.
It does.
Go read up on it.
Your post is why those labels describe the warnings for overdosing.
Never stated 6 yr olds "never got Ozempic".
I'd stated your framing of that claim "pushing it on 6 yr olds" is nonsense.
Pediatricians are actively looking for ways to address childhood obesity, because of the exceeding high risks of major health issues later in life.
Again: have a problem with that? Email Duke's Pediatrics department and see what they tell you. Post back what they bitchslap you with in response.
I was quoting Duke University's Pediatrics department.
Take this issue up with them, because they were a major part of the study (and may have initiated it, I didn't look that up)
That's what clinical trials do, all right. "See what happens" under carefully designed and monitored protocols.
It is literally why we have so many effective medicines and vaccines these days that have increased our lifespans dramatically over the past 100 years.
