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So why didn't we shake hands?

I f'n love it. This freshman class has some edge to it and this shows that they wont take sh*t from anyone. If this last minute in a half happens in AAU ball, there is definitely a fight taking place. They don't want to show some respect? who cares, on to the next one. NEXT
 
In case anyone was not aware, Fran again demonstrated that he isn't the most emotionally in control guy in the coaching profession.
 
If you rewatch the last 10 seconds Fran was ready to shake hands, after the steal and basket the coach did the little count it with his hands and that is when Fran took off.. that is what set Fran over the edge. I have no problem with nd playing hard but when kids could get hurt with cheap play yeah that's too far
 
I'm sure you'd be the first one calling out an opposing coach who does the same thing to us.

I expect better from my university. I see you don't, that's fine.

Best option would have been to shake hands and tell Jones in the line that North Dakota is never again coming to Iowa city to play. The count it hand motion by Jones at the end was a douche move of the highest order. That said, wish Fran would see the big picture and not make end of game about him.
 
Perhaps not likely... but... If Fran's image takes a hit and he gets a technical later this year (probably in BTT against Izzo) remember how he further crafted that image.

Sounds harsh, but people DO watch these things and form opinions.
Opinions are a dime a dozen.
 
Fran was really pissed about the foul on Jok w/ 12 to go. Said, "this is f-ing bulls$&t!" while looking at the ND bench. Took Jok out so he wouldn't have the potential to get hurt.

I'm sure the intentional fake flop, foul on Jok, then the stripe of Baer really pissed Fran off. I agree, that's how players get hurt or a fight breaks out. Don't need anyone out for B1G season or suspended due to a fight.

I'm sorry but the ND coach should of called off the dogs after they missed the shot then Iowa tried to run out the clock. Total bush league by them, that's why Fran bolted. I agree with him.
 
I didn't like that either. My position tonight is not mutually-exclusive to your post here.

I do like Fran as the coach, but he messed up tonight.

Let me also be clear, I am not happy with the North Dakota players or staff.

If this doesn't make an ounce of sense to you, take a break from posting for a while.
Watching the PC right now, Fran stands by his decision 100%. Coaching doesn't seem to be a good fit for you Pepperman.
 
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He probably should have just quickly walked through the handshake line. OTOH he was rightfully upset and knowing his temper, maybe a good idea to walk to the locker room instead. I don't think its a big deal but I wish he would have instructed the rest of the team to shake hands because that was a very awkward end for the players.
 
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I understand Fran's frustration and I don't think it's that big of a deal.

With that said, I think the better decision would be to shake hands and then nobody is even talking about this. When in doubt, take the high road.
Pussification of America. Proud of Fran and proud the team kept their shit together st the end. By the way did you notice the opposing dickhead coach saying the last basket should count? Stick up for your team and thank you Fran for doing so.
 
If you rewatch the last 10 seconds Fran was ready to shake hands, after the steal and basket the coach did the little count it with his hands and that is when Fran took off.. that is what set Fran over the edge. I have no problem with nd playing hard but when kids could get hurt with cheap play yeah that's too far

I'll have to re-watch.... this is better than pro wrestling!
 
Fran at least says he has a lot of respect for coach Jones and coach Horner. then he got snarky
Watching the PC right now, Fran stands by his decision 100%. Coaching doesn't seem to be a good fit for you Pepperman.

If you watched his Q&A and still don't see the problem I'm not sure what more I can say. I haven't resorted to insults like you though. Go Hawks!

edit - I'm not trying out for Iowa basketball coach, so don't worry.
 
I f'n love it. This freshman class has some edge to it and this shows that they wont take sh*t from anyone. If this last minute in a half happens in AAU ball, there is definitely a fight taking place. They don't want to show some respect? who cares, on to the next one. NEXT
I had a similar reaction. This team has a little edge to them. Like Pemsl attitude in previous games. Don't take shit from anyone
 
Fran at least says he has a lot of respect for coach Jones and coach Horner. then he got snarky


If you watched his Q&A and still don't see the problem I'm not sure what more I can say. I haven't resorted to insults like you though. Go Hawks!

edit - I'm not trying out for Iowa basketball coach, so don't worry.
Let me spell it out for you. Fran is what he is, he's not changing. He has a temper, he hates to lose and he especially hates Teddy Valentine. I probably could've left that last reference out.
 
I look at this 2 ways........first I can tell you it is complete bull$hit the way ND handled the end of that game. If you have ever played in a contest where your opponent is pulling that kind of crap, and then you are expected to turn around and shake their hands and tell them good game as soon as it is over, then you know that is a hard thing to do. Hard for me to blame Fran there.

The other perspective I have here......and this is why I think Fran will look back and regret this after he cools down......is that this young team, who is starting to get on a bit of a roll, does not need any negative energy right now. Maybe this will end up being no big deal, but it could have been completely avoided.

There are other ways to get your point across. Go through the line, give a terse handshake and a FU through your teeth to the Coach.......then immediately inform your AD that they are no longer welcome in Carver, and if you feel strongly enough about it, badmouth them to other Big 10 Coaches so maybe they hesitate to schedule them as well.
 
Perhaps not likely... but... If Fran's image takes a hit and he gets a technical later this year (probably in BTT against Izzo) remember how he further crafted that image.

Sounds harsh, but people DO watch these things and form opinions.

Give me a break. The refs were even pissed by the ND player at the end of the game stripping Baer with no time left. That's how fights occur.
 
I listened to the clip. Why didn't he say that to the coaches? That would have been a better move.
 
Can't fault North Dakota going for that steal and last second shot. Just not too good with the math, there...
 
Fran at least says he has a lot of respect for coach Jones and coach Horner. then he got snarky


If you watched his Q&A and still don't see the problem I'm not sure what more I can say. I haven't resorted to insults like you though. Go Hawks!

edit - I'm not trying out for Iowa basketball coach, so don't worry.
Oh my he got snarky. Please!
 
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