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Curious what impressed you about Peterson? I don’t know anything about the kid he beat in the quarters but doesn’t seem like a kid we should be losing to the majority of the match and beat cause we caught him. The only non staters that I thought looked pretty dang good yesterday were Ferrari and Estrada.
He is a fighter who doesn't gas and doesn't give up. Beat a national qualifier who is dangerous, and at 133, which is up from where Petersen has been this year. Some guys find a way to lose; some guys find a way to win.

Didn't KV beat Estrada in consis? If so, wouldn't you say he looked better?
 
Please correct me if I am wrong, but if the match was tied and he caught him for the pin, would that not also mean he was going to be up at least by 4 points if he didn't get the pin? Seems to me that just because you may be trailing or tied and then get the pin the win should not be considered to be less of an accomplishment. I agree with you - it was a solid win.
Ok trailing by 3 with under a minute to go against a kid who was 17-13 last year and hitting a funk roll off the kids shot, failing to score off our on shots, might be why I was unimpressed with him yesterday. I mean if beating a kid of that caliber impresses you I don’t know what to tell you. Just cause he fought off his back early isn’t an impressive performance. It shows guts and fight but I’m not impressed that we can get thrown to our back. Glad he won, not saying Kale isn’t or won’t be good; all I’m saying is it wasn’t an impressive performance.
 
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Ok trailing by 3 with under a minute to go against a kid who was 17-13 last year and hitting a funk roll off the kids shot, failing to score off our on shots, might be why I was unimpressed with him yesterday. I mean if beating a kid of that caliber impresses you I don’t know what to tell you. Just cause he fought off his back early isn’t an impressive performance. It shows guts and fight but I’m not impressed that we can get thrown to our back. Glad he won, not saying Kale isn’t or won’t be good; all I’m saying is it wasn’t an impressive performance.
Didn't Spencer get thrown to his back once or twice? It happens and very few are immune to it.
 
He started at 217 last year and is up to 240. Listen, he gets a chance to adjust to D-1 wrestling, like everyone. He has 3 more years! Sure, let’s get on a message board and determine his whole future and minimize, downgrade all he has accomplished. SMH, what a puke. You know where you can shove your un educated opinions. I’m in suite 6 if you want chat about it, dumb a@@.
Where have you been hiding? You need to be more visible more often! ;)
 
Didn't Spencer get thrown to his back once or twice? It happens and very few are immune to it.
Were you impressed with how Spencer wrestled in the Ramos match? Dude I’m not saying Kale isn’t an impressive wrestler just saying I didn’t think he wrestled a very good match. I realize anyone can get tossed and since that kid launched his first opponent and pinned him I’m assuming that’s kind of his thing.
 
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FWIW, Leete took Crookham the distance last year, lost 4-3 or something similar. Overall record isn't that great, but he can be dangerous and not just with big moves. Solid win for KP over a tricky opponent, staying composed when he was getting some funky stuff thrown at him.
 
I think he had riding time? 🤣 Also, 2 stall calls, kid wouldn’t engage. Wrestled safe to get the win. Kid was also short, Ben shot 4 times, so agree on that one. Needs to finish. Hand fight, move his feet, fakes, etc.
Ya that kid kept his back parallel and legs as far away as possible hoping Ben would take a bad shot
 
Were you impressed with how Spencer wrestled in the Ramos match? Dude I’m not saying Kale isn’t an impressive wrestler just saying I didn’t think he wrestled a very good match. I realize anyone can get tossed and since that kid launched his first opponent and pinned him I’m assuming that’s kind of his thing.
Dude - you need to re-read what I wrote. I never once said I was impressed with his match. I simply said he would have been up by at least 4 points when the match was over and it was a solid win. It wasn't like he was getting beat by 10 and then got lucky.
 
I just love “fans”.
This place is filled with a handful of idiots. Parents should avoid or simply read it for a laugh, and don't give any stock to what the morans say. I know that's easier said than done, but it's way better to just laugh them off. Bens already accomplished more than about anyone on here so don't let them affect you. Plus it doesn't do the kids any favors. They should avoid all social media just for the benefits to recovery if nothing else
 
I just love “fans”.

What you need to understand is we have a LOT of fans and with that also comes a high volume of morons.


It seems like he hasn't put on hardly any weight since high school. I'm guessing he has but man did he look slim yesterday. I don't think he wants to be fat but jeez he could be not skinny.

Sometimes in life, we are just wrong. For you, this is one of those times. Ben is noticeably bigger since HS.

Ok trailing by 3 with under a minute to go against a kid who was 17-13 last year and hitting a funk roll off the kids shot, failing to score off our on shots, might be why I was unimpressed with him yesterday. I mean if beating a kid of that caliber impresses you I don’t know what to tell you. Just cause he fought off his back early isn’t an impressive performance. It shows guts and fight but I’m not impressed that we can get thrown to our back. Glad he won, not saying Kale isn’t or won’t be good; all I’m saying is it wasn’t an impressive performance.

Dude, we’re talking about Kale Petersen here. Beating a returning NCAA qualifier is a good win for him. Perspective.
 
I think he had riding time? 🤣 Also, 2 stall calls, kid wouldn’t engage. Wrestled safe to get the win. Kid was also short, Ben shot 4 times, so agree on that one. Needs to finish. Hand fight, move his feet, fakes, etc.
BK one of the best if not best counter wrestlers at 285 on feet and with rolling around on mat. The guy was able to keep it close by avoiding like you said.
 
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Is there any way Estrada make 141? I Like what I have seen out of him.
“I think he can be a 141 in college, he walks around at 160. I think with the intensity of the workouts and a disciplined diet he could be a 141 pounder. At that weight he'd be able to enforce his style on opponents at 149 he's at a bit of a disadvantage but you've seen guys like Bono has big time success at 150 that are short. He's taller than Bono.”
This is what Miguel’s club coach posted a while back.
 
This place is filled with a handful of idiots. Parents should avoid or simply read it for a laugh, and don't give any stock to what the morans say. I know that's easier said than done, but it's way better to just laugh them off. Bens already accomplished more than about anyone on here so don't let them affect you. Plus it doesn't do the kids any favors. They should avoid all social media just for the benefits to recovery if nothing else
This.
 
I don’t know. Why don’t you do the legwork instead of asking other people to do it?

Like I said, most weights have multiple ranked wrestlers/NCAA qualifiers. 149 and 174 are pretty good weights.

It really doesn’t work that way, that you just start a tourney and teams flock to it. Especially not in today’s world of “pitch counts.” Still a lot of room for improvement but it’s become a legit tourney in year 3.
We have a different definition of legit.
 
i would not call someone an idiot for this.some people are glass half full others are never satisfied,but the ones i'm talking about are still no doubt hawkeye fans and deserve to post

Agree that everyone reserves the right to post something stupid, as long as they follow the board rules.

And others reserve the right to reply. And be entertained by said stupidity. It’s like 3/4 the reason I’m here.
 
We have a different definition of legit.

lol

Okaay Ok GIF by MOODMAN
 
Says the guy who has posted nothing to back up his opinion in this thread, and even asked other people to do his research.
You are the best. It's tough to figure out that I was asking how many starters are in this tourney to make a point. You are keeping in character though. This tournament is currently the UNI Open at the end. I wish it was better but it's 4-5 starters per bracket. This isn't college football where schools are locked into a schedule. There is a reason that everyone is guessing what Iowa's schedule will be in late October.
 
I think he had riding time? 🤣 Also, 2 stall calls, kid wouldn’t engage. Wrestled safe to get the win. Kid was also short, Ben shot 4 times, so agree on that one. Needs to finish. Hand fight, move his feet, fakes, etc.
I didn't say he was a bad rider, just not dominant yet. He is dangerous with the cradle and does ride well. His build doesn't allow for super heavy hips on top and he isn't a legger. As you alluded to getting in on shorter guys is not easy with his height. He does scramble well on the mat. I think he could do some damage getting in on body locks vs some of these shorter guys especially. He didn't get a lot of matches last year and not too many to start this year. Just getting some more mat time is great for him IMO.
 
You are the best. It's tough to figure out that I was asking how many starters are in this tourney to make a point. You are keeping in character though. This tournament is currently the UNI Open at the end. I wish it was better but it's 4-5 starters per bracket. This isn't college football where schools are locked into a schedule. There is a reason that everyone is guessing what Iowa's schedule will be in late October.
Well. Currently there’s one legit tourney. CKLV. SS happens to compete directly with the most historic tournament in the ncaa. Might take a few years to develop. Aside from that there used to be quite a few solid tournaments but teams have gone away from that model. UNI, Missouri open, scuffle, Reno, all used to be meat grinders. Teams must not like the risk
 
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