Sources: Penn State Wrestling picks up massive transfer
The Penn State Wrestling Team gets a much-needed boost to fill the 125 spot this season as CMU's Drew Hildebrandt transfers to the Nittany Lions
Source- Hildebrandt to F*** st.
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I’ve also heard we have landed on the moon. Can anyone confirm?
Tough kid and an all American type of wrestler. I would guess a top six type of impact, which is an upgrade. He could also not place. He won several close matches last year and he really doesn't blow any body out, so he's not a guy that will score a lot of bonus. Seems to be tough on top and decent defensively.
Yeah, you could make that assumption I suppose, but Carl might have given him the straight talk too and then it gets into risk/ reward, you gotta earn the spot, all that fun stuff.
Source? If Patricia Mineo, then I change my previous assumptions and think it was all done in Hollywood.
Carl need to change his door title from coach to general manager.
It sure sounds like the ship has sailed with NS. The last I read was complications with sponsor money he has previously received from Sunkist kids, but who knows.
Hildebrandt is in the PSU student directory, meaning he’s officially a student. He will be their 125lb’er. As for Suriano, that ship has sailed. The NCAA has derailed his comeback tour. Something to do with paying back his prior endorsements before being eligible for NIL deals.
I have to be honest here once again because there are many things that must be different these days from when I was in school. Hildebrandt as far as I can see, is a senior and has wrestled 4 maybe 5 years with the cover year. I assume his plan was to Wrestle again this year?
If so, I would have to think he was enrolled in classes at his old school and working out etc.... Or was he not enrolled? I am just trying to understand how this works? If he was enrolled, how could he pay all that money, start classes etc..... and now be enrolled at F*** st.? HOW?
If he was not enrolled? He was taking a chance on not wrestling? I mean I am not getting this??? It is 1/2 way through the fall semester, there is no way I could have just picked up and went somewhere else.
Once more, how does it work with you credits and program. I see psu mike posting "it is not clear" what he is in? so he is a grad student who was sitting on the sidelines waiting to be a hired gun type of thing? Someone please explain? TY
If so, I would have to think he was enrolled in classes at his old school and working out etc.... Or was he not enrolled? I am just trying to understand how this works? If he was enrolled, how could he pay all that money, start classes etc..... and now be enrolled at F*** st.? HOW?
If he was not enrolled? He was taking a chance on not wrestling? I mean I am not getting this??? It is 1/2 way through the fall semester, there is no way I could have just picked up and went somewhere else.
Once more, how does it work with you credits and program. I see psu mike posting "it is not clear" what he is in? so he is a grad student who was sitting on the sidelines waiting to be a hired gun type of thing? Someone please explain? TY
The endorsement issue needing to be overcome has been out there for awhile but I have yet to see it be said that it means the ship has sailed. Rather, it’s just something that needs to be addressed. He was literally visiting schools
as late as last weekend.
Penn State puts all accepted applicants into the directory not just those that are students. So, this means he filled out an application and was given a letter of acceptance. It doesn't mean he's a student nor does it mean he will become a student. I believe the directory record gets created when an on-line account gets setup so that communications with prospective students takes place through the psu portal. All three of my children were in the directory long before they notified the university they would be coming. Financial aid packages and other communications go through the portal, just like they do at most universities.
As a PSU fan, I would agree with this. Last several years, we have gotten nothing from this weight class. And the presumed starter, Robbie Howard, seems to be out for the whole year.
In that context, I think he adds quite a bit, but as you say, he could also not place.
Haha. You’re hoping so hard you still get to choose Suriano over Hildebrandt.
And without reading too far into you fingers-crossed post, if needed youd sacrifice one or all of your three to get Suriano?
Hildebrandt was not planning on wrestling this year and he didn't go into the portal until October 31st after being contacted about filling someone's lineup hole.
And there’s nothing wrong with this. At all. If Lee couldn’t wrestle this year Iowa should have been after him, too.
So you are telling me, Hilebrandt has a year of eligibility left. He was't going to use it??? There is a time limit from once you start competing officially in college or did they do away with that too? Why would a returning AA not want to use what I presume is his last year?
Also my other question, was was he enrolled in classes at his old school this fall?
Hildebrandt redshirted his freshman year. He then competed for CMU at 125 in 2018/2019/2020/2021. As 2021 did not count towards eligibility, he has one year remaining. He graduated from CMU in May of 2020 and has been taking graduate level courses since then. He is shown on the PSU student directory, although that means nothing more than he applied to, and was accepted into PSU's MBA program.
He graduated high school in 2016, one year after Michael Kemerer. I'm not really sure if the NCAA has a time limit on length of college career.
He graduated high school in 2016, one year after Michael Kemerer. I'm not really sure if the NCAA has a time limit on length of college career.
He probably got his degree and figured he is done. He has AA'd and was not going to win it this year, obviously, and figured he would move on. He probably hasn't got a decent job yet and someone came knocking that they would pay him to wrestle a few matches and maybe go to a few classes for a couple of months.
I was curious and went to the NCAA.org site. It states this:
Division I five-year clock: If you play at a Division I school, you have five-calendar years in which to play four seasons of competition. Your five-year clock starts when you enroll as a full-time student at any college. Thereafter, your clock continues, even if you spend an academic year in residence as a result of transferring; decide to redshirt, if you do not attend school or even if you go part time during your college career.
It seems like this isn't even enforced anymore if the rule is still valid. Heck, this is Micic's 8th year of college. He had one at NW, three undergraduate at UM, and this is his third as a graduate student at UM. So I'd say the answer to the question is that there is no limit.
Eligibility Timeline
Division I five-year clock: If you play at a Division I school, you have five-calendar years in which to play four seasons of competition. Your five-year clock starts when you enroll as a full-time student at any college. Thereafter, your clock continues, even if you spend an academic year in residence as a result of transferring; decide to redshirt, if you do not attend school or even if you go part time during your college career.
It seems like this isn't even enforced anymore if the rule is still valid. Heck, this is Micic's 8th year of college. He had one at NW, three undergraduate at UM, and this is his third as a graduate student at UM. So I'd say the answer to the question is that there is no limit.
i don't think Spencer really cares who this kid is... If he wrestles him Spencer will work his offense and take him down and get a tilt off the take down...work him over for almost' 3 minutes of riding time and then depending on the flip... finish him off via tech fall or maybe crank the bar up over the top....inflict some severe pain and then get the fall.... I think in the off season we worry more about the other teams than do our wrestlers....they have to stay focused and be the best no matter who steps on the mat against them. Go Hawkeyes !!!!
I’m not worried about SL at all, he is in better health and shape than he was last season and that’s good enough to mess up the field.
I think this comes down to the hired gun thing, but personally I have no problem with Hildabrant finishing his last year at funstate.
If Suriano was bought in I think the conversation would be much different.
I think this comes down to the hired gun thing, but personally I have no problem with Hildabrant finishing his last year at funstate.
If Suriano was bought in I think the conversation would be much different.
Olympic redshirts don't count (Micic took 2) and neither did 2020-2021 (even though Micic didn't even compete)
NO Sh*T!!! Ya don' t say??? Yea I undersand Lee could give two sh*ts, not the point. The point is, it appears that we have crossed a line were 9.9 is meaningless. F*** st had done this several years ago, and continues to move the issue further down the line. They are able to recruit whomever they wish, and make them offers somehow?
Everyone else better be on that same field and quick. It reminds me of the Yankees back in the days. They had 2-3 guys who had contracts greater then entire teams. F*** st probable has 20 guys on their roster who are "full ride type" of guys.
Like Lee, I could give two sh*ts about them, as long as it does not effect our recruiting to a point where we are always playing catch up because we are not on a level field! We beat them 2 years in a row and it will be 3 this year. It was done with far less "star" power when looking at recruiting rankings, but everyone know the game and what it takes to build championship teams. Top recruits are need.
No one I know doubts the greatness of your ‘25.
No one is saying our ‘25 will beat him.
I am saying he is a real step up from what we have had.
And that his sister would likely beat most others at her weight.
When you've won as much as they have, kids will take less to come wrestle. We see this in Professional sports too, with the contracts being publicly known, where players will take less than their market value to play for a team that gives them the best chance at winning. This isn't some new concept, so I don't know why you're stunned to see this with a team that won 8 championships in 9 years.
What do you mean you think this comes down to the hired gun thing? All this comes down to is Penn State filling a hole in their lineup with a High AA, just as we did with Eierman at '41.
The circumstances are quite different, but whatever. Not complaining about it, but is a different kettle of fish.
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That's the eligibility rule and it's definitely enforced. What you're missing is the sections that apply exceptions to the eligibility rule - and there you have the 8 and 9 year college students.
Well, anyone who has time left on the clock last year would be eligible this year from a general perspective. A lot of athletes across all sports are past their 10 semesters and many more as last year was a freebie for everyone.
So what you are saying is....that you hate PSU and they recruited a 125lber and they have a room full of studs who are bought and paid for and they do whatever they can to win Titles at any cost ???? Thats a HELL of a NOVEL IDEA !!!! you are a true wrestling Guru and maybe the Brands brothers should look at your posts for their plans...
Maybe you could slow down with all the sh*ts? It’s really making a mess of the thread.
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