if a program can drop a varsity sport that has been around for 129 years then, yeah the angst for the rest of the country is real...
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I would be very surprised if Stanford does not find someone to endow the sport. I do not think we have heard the last of Stanford wrestling.
They couldn’t find the donors to fully fund it. How are they suddenly going to find someone to pony up the dollars to endow it?
They couldn’t find the donors to fully fund it. How are they suddenly going to find someone to pony up the dollars to endow it?
Brown University did exactly that a few years ago. The threat of losing the program is enough to bring donors out in full force. If cash is the only issue, I guess this program will be saved.
The snag is that a women's sport has to also be included and funded.
I hear there is a growing women's sport thats exploding at the high school level...
They couldn’t find the donors to fully fund it. How are they suddenly going to find someone to pony up the dollars to endow it?
I don’t see how college wrestling survives this. I doubt we will have a season this year, and it may be gone completely after that.
This is just awful.
Agree.
Didn't want to start a thread about it either, but given the number of athletes (pro and collegiate) that have contracted covid in last month or two, the unthinkable is starting to loom possible. Collegiate sports in the 2020-21 year will likely be curtailed in some fashion. Fall sports are, of course, at highest risk.
Kansas St, Houston and Boise State all had covid outbreaks and shut down their voluntary football practices. Clemson had 23 football players test positive and LSU had 30 in quarantine.
Hope wrestling happens, but there are no guarantees at this point.
Even starting college and HS classes in this fall is being debated. The Cal State system, Harvard and other schools are talking about having teaching being done "remotely."
Keeping my fingers crossed.
You really think college wrestling will be gone after next year? I find that highly unlikely.
With all the missing football revenue so many sports will be cut I don’t see more than a handful of programs left, which won’t be enough for the NCAA to recognize it has a sport.
A lot of people think we can just turn everything off for a year then turn it back on as if nothing happened. It doesn’t work that way. Education, sports, crime, the economy, mental health; these things are going to be damaged for years, and in some ways permanently.
my question, why is wrestling so easy to cut?
That's it. Here in New England, the winter revenue sport is hockey, and people love hockey here like we love wrestling in Iowa. Hockey is a very expensive port (rink, equipment, etc.), but it will be one of the last sports to get cut because of all the attention it gets and money it generates. There's only three D1 wrestling schools left here, and I think only one D2 school. I think that at least one of those will get cut.Huh? Money talks in our society. Many people are willing to make decisions based on the bottom line. All sports are in trouble. Non revenue producing sports are the obvious cuts to make when monetary costs are the main concern.
I hope this isn’t just the tip of the iceberg!!?? This is a huge concern! There may be many other considering this. They seem to always take the easy way out and cut wrestling.At $27.7 billion, Stanford has the fourth largest endowment fund in America. If a school that wealthy feels the need to cut financial support for Olympic sports, there can only be more such choices made down the road by other institutions.
Valid concern !Live out west. This is a major blow to the sport of wrestling out here. I'm really worried that if football doesn't go this fall you will see a few more colleges out west cut their wrestling programs. Feel like a lot of HS wrestling programs out here are holding on for dear life. Last thing we need is the few college programs to start folding.
And here I’m crossing my fingers that colleges here in OR don’t open up for on campus classes this fall. (Unless things change drastically in the next month.)
How do you propose we get control over the Covid spread? When we open up, it will spread. Are suggesting that we wait for a vaccine or wait until we have a couple more spikes (1 year to 2 years) and then it will have run its course and we will be safe? Do we wait for therapeutics that will treat it?I agree dub....I'm not keen on forcing schools to open in a month. I think doing that while the pandemic is spiking up is crazy.
The fingers crossed was more about wrestling season not being lost for 2020-21, as we get control over the covid spread. Not real optimistic at this point.
I agree dub....I'm not keen on forcing schools to open in a month. I think doing that while the pandemic is spiking up is crazy.
The fingers crossed was more about wrestling season not being lost for 2020-21, as we get control over the covid spread. Not real optimistic at this point.
Huh? Money talks in our society. Many people are willing to make decisions based on the bottom line. All sports are in trouble. Non revenue producing sports are the obvious cuts to make when monetary costs are the main concern.
Shoot for a shortened season in the spring, maybe?
Conference schedule, conference tourneys and nationals in a two or three month span?
sure, but how much does it cost to run a wrestling team. Got to be a lot less, I would think.
2016 is the most recent year I can find for wrestling spending at Iowa - $1.46 million.
Any idea on the revenue for that year?
Was wondering if wrestling made money from BTN broadcast.
Are you saying then that our program runs at a loss every year? Most wrestling programs do, but I was naive enough to think that Iowa's didn't$881,875 - includes Grapple on the Gridiron. Previous year was roughly $550,000
Are you saying that then program runs at a loss every year? Most wrestling programs do, but I was naive enough to think that Iowa's didn't
Thanks, GG. I need to be more careful with my typing.Yes, they lose money every year. There are just not enough home meets in a season to offset expenses.
A good question would be, How many teams have to be cut and how many budgets have to be cut, before they cut some administrators?Do not recall if this listing of revenues reported by NCAA schools has previously been posted. It's interesting (read suspect) that so many schools have revenue deficits. Maybe some creative accounting? Or maybe the athletic managers are just oblivious to spending? Maybe the COVID-19 pandemic will force greater focus on spending. https://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances/
The last few weeks I've been mulling over starting a nonprofit that looks at school districts and identifies administrative bloat at taxpayer request. Just a pipedream, but the more I read the more likeminded people I discover.A good question would be, How many teams have to be cut and how many budgets have to be cut, before they cut some administrators?