Suriano moving back to 125?
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And what do you know for sure because i do know....for sure.
You’re arguing with someone that certainly knows.
It took all of that to get to the root of your problem with my comment. You don’t like that I said kill. I get it now. Maybe he wouldn’t but that’s how I feel it would go right now. I agree that suriano would win every time or just about against Rivera. Yes, mueller did ride the piss out of seabass but he also took him down what, 3 times? That wasn’t a bottom issue. Glory took him down pretty easily too and didn’t ride him. Rivera’s bread and butter is supposed to be neutral, he wasn’t better in neutral than either of those guys and got dominated by mueller. They’re big boys for 25 who are also good so...yeah, he more than struggled with them. And Spencer Lee is Spencer Lee. He’s simply more skilled than almost everyone on earth and he lost to Rivera twice last year. And guess what? He’s not big and he’s great on top. Kind of debunks your Rivera bottom struggles theory. But think what you want.
Not BS from what I was told from a good source.
Can’t just take it for face value that Spencer was far from healthy last March?
You fool, hahaha I don’t know why any of these guys even respond or care what you think. Trying to start a fire cause this place is an easy target? Imagine your life sucking so bad that you spend a majority if your time on a rival teams message board.
FFS...why in the hell is this still being debated? Not only was it plainly obvious to anyone with functioning brain cells, it was verified by the Iowa coaching staff.
It’s hard for people to wrap their heads around how good he is. He’ll show them soon enough.
I've watched every one of Lee's college matches. He has had multiple instances where he struggled to close matches, and not just last year. I wouldn't be shocked if Suriano could hang in there early and close late. Tomasello was able to do that at Big Tens.
I'm not a blind fan that thinks his guys are invincible and then my world gets rocked when they lose. Wrestlers lose to guys they are better than all the time. Look at Metcalf v. Palmer. Ramos v. Schopp. Perry v. Dieffenbach. It should have happened to Nolf last year. The list could go on forever. It can happen to Spencer because it can happen to anyone. It's pretty wild that my claim that Suriano can maybe take a match or 2 out of 10 from Spencer is so heavily disputed when he has lost to 3 guys the last 2 years that Suriano is better than and Suriano has a win over Spencer in high school.
Spencer is incredible. I have no doubt something was wrong with him this year. But to put some 60% number on it is just hilarious.
Anyway, this thread is a discussion about Spencer vs Suriano. It is not an outlandish claim to think Suriano can beat Spencer on more than just a random occurrence. Suriano is an elite talent, NCAA champ, beat the world bronze medalist in his first freestyle match in like 6 years. Saying he is close with Spencer, is not a knock on Spencer.
Anyway, this thread is a discussion about Spencer vs Suriano. It is not an outlandish claim to think Suriano can beat Spencer on more than just a random occurrence. Suriano is an elite talent, NCAA champ, beat the world bronze medalist in his first freestyle match in like 6 years. Saying he is close with Spencer, is not a knock on Spencer.
To put this in perspective for some on here, Suriano's worst loss by far is Austin Desanto. Austin Desanto. When that's your worst loss, and worst by far, you're pretty dang elite. His other losses are Thomas Gilman (junior and senior world medalist), Spencer (cadet and junior world champ), Fix (junior world champ, now senior rep over Gilman), and Micic (junior world medalist and top 10 guy in the world at senior level). He's been one of the best light weights in recent memory. To say he can go with Spencer if Spencer isn't 100% on his game isn't nuts guys.
To say he can hang with Spencer when Spencer is at 100% IS nuts, imo, guy.
If Suriono is planning a run for the olympic team, he needs to take an Olympic shirt. It would be silly to drop to 125, (imo) not win an NCAA title and then not make the Olympic team. I don't see him beating Fix, Lee or Gilman in freestyle without taking the year to work strictly on it
Now, gentlemen, let me ask you this: What if Spencer were 14 inches tall, you know, about so high?
Now, what’s your score against Suriano?
Was Spencer at 100% at Big Tens when Tomasello beat him? I think Suriano is better than Tomasello.
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You mean when Spencer was wearing a hulking knee brace while recovering from ACL surgery?
So let me ask you this: Has Spencer ever been 100% outside of the NCAA tournament during his career so far?
If Spencer doesn’t tech or pin someone he is not 100%. It’s really that simple.
He was 100% prior to his knee injury in his senior year of HS.
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He's had 2 full seasons. The first one he was a year removed from ACL surgery/recovery and wearing a knee brace until the NCAA tournament.
The second one (this past season) has been heavily reported by insiders, people close to the program (Ironside), comments from the coaching staff, and Spencer himself that he wasn't 100%.
To answer, your question - I don't know, but based on all info we have publicly it would seem the answer is "no".
[QUOTE="js8793, post: 6800164, member: 96577" I wouldn't be shocked if Suriano could hang in there early and close late. Tomasello was able to do that at Big Tens.
I'm not a blind fan that thinks his guys are invincible and then my world gets rocked when they lose. [/QUOTE]
You are kind of blind if you missed Tomasello grabbing the huge knee brace Lee was wearing to get the winning take down.
I'm not a blind fan that thinks his guys are invincible and then my world gets rocked when they lose. [/QUOTE]
You are kind of blind if you missed Tomasello grabbing the huge knee brace Lee was wearing to get the winning take down.
You are kind of blind if you missed Tomasello grabbing the huge knee brace Lee was wearing to get the winning take down.[/QUOTE]
Lol, always the excuses.
And for the record, that "allegedly" happened during the scramble preceding the winning takedown. The winning takedown was a clean high crotch with no scramble. If you're going to come up with excuses, you should do it right. Good thing Spencer doesn't.
I don’t think he’s been 100% since his HS injury - though by the end of his Frosh year he was probably close.
And Suriano is not better than NATO.
So Spencer was a year removed from his injury and that works as an injury excuse for his losses to Bresser and Tomasello, while Suriano was only a couple weeks removed from an extended hospital stay, but Suriano can't use a health excuse? How do we know Suriano wasn't wrestling at 85% and that match is a lot tighter if he's in top form?
Lol, always the excuses.
And for the record, that "allegedly" happened during the scramble preceding the winning takedown. The winning takedown was a clean high crotch with no scramble. If you're going to come up with excuses, you should do it right. Good thing Spencer doesn't.[/QUOTE]
I just realized you were crablegs trolling buddy. Carry on.
So you watched but you didn't comprehend what you were seeing. Got it.
And for the record, if you want to do some digging, I believe I was the first one on this site to say Spencer Lee will get beat, and probably multiple times in his College career. Dan Gable is the best Wrestler ever and he lost.
Since that time, I have come to the conclusion when healthy and engaged, it will be a major fluke if he loses. He won NCAA's at 1/2 to 3/4 speed. I'm convinced he's special.
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I don't know how healthy or unhealthy Suriano was and haven't commented on it. I was just answering your question about Spencer's health.
But is eligible for a shirt? does have a medal to his name in cadets or juniors?
