Ok, you realize I said I'd pick Spencer to win every time, but that Suriano could take one from him if he's off? In other words, exactly what you just said. The defensiveness over Spencer by so many on here is pathetic. He's a special wrestler, but special wrestlers get beat all the time. If he has an off day and drops one to somebody like Suriano, another special guy, it shouldn't be earth shattering.
Suriano moving back to 125?
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I am a big fan of Suriano...wished he had come to Iowa but it more than likely would have cost us Spencer so I am good with how things ended up.
From a wrestling standpoint, Spencer is a terrible matchup for Suriano. Lee is the consummate chain wrestler and is an underrated funk guy. I think if Suriano had to stop just 1 or 2 moves (like in a Fix or DeSanto match), it would be much closer.
Fix has some of those same attributes as Lee but for some reason, we only really see them in freestyle....the creativity that is. I think Fix would be a tougher matchup for Lee if he would go out there and let it rip.
Your problem is the eye test on ones health is readily apparent sometimes. You don't seem to comprehend that for some odd reason.
Watch multiple matches in succession against high level opponents and it gives you a pretty good gage of one's health, especially if they're winning all those matches, and even moreso if they do so with little serious trouble.
Now you claim you did that and still.........
I will tell you for a fact that Spencer has not been 100% healthy since his knee injury his senior year of high school. The closest he's been to 100% healthy was NCAA's his freshman year. He really hasn't been able to train properly his first 2 years in college, because of recovering from an injury and an illness. He's going to make some really good guys look average at best this upcoming season.
Lol, come on dude. I do think there was something wrong with Spencer, but I'm not an insider, so I don't know for sure or how much it impacted his performance. Not sure why you're so defensive of him because i had the audacity to suggest a guy who has beaten him before could possibly do it again IF he's off his game.
Has this been confirmed? I know there's been some debate about it because the rule is written vaguely:
Top 3 at the 2019 NCAA Wrestling Championship or NCAA Champion from a previous year AND top 2 from the 2019 U23 World Team Trials (must accomplish both)
It seems a bit weird to make every top 3 finisher eligible. I think it makes more sense to read it as you have to place top 3 at ncaas and top 2 at U23, which Suriano didn't do.
I don’t know. Verkleren is eligible based on his cadet world gold from 2015. Give me every top 3 NCAA guy over him.
This discussion makes me hope that Nick and Dayton do drop to 125 this year; if that were to happen, I think the debate would be over quickly and not in Dayton or Nick's favor.
Needs an ncaa title and a previous world team spot (or is it world team medal?)
Suriano is eligible. If you placed top 3 in the previous NCAA season, so 2018-19 season, then you are eligible. You only need to place top two at U23's if you didn't place top 3 at the 2018-19 NCAA Championships but were a champion in a prior year. So for example, if Suriano had won in 2017-18, but this past season (2018-19) got hurt and missed the tournament or didn't place top 3 for whatever reason, then he would have had to place top 2 at U23's in 2019.
Here's all the criteria:
Here's all the criteria:
- Past national team members (top three from the World or Olympic Team Trials)
- Top eight at the 2019 Senior U.S. Open
- Top three at the 2019 NCAA Wrestling Championship; or NCAA champion from a previous year AND top two from the 2019 U23 World Team Trials (must accomplish both).
- Previous Cadet, Junior, U23 world medalist
You might be right as I read through the criteria real quick and am now confused by the wording.
Ok so I should have just read it in original form rather than flos article because Suriano isn't eligible.
Top 3 at the 2019 NCAA Wrestling Championship or NCAA Champion from a previous year AND top 2 from the 2019 U23 World Team Trials (must accomplish both)
Flos article:
Top three at the 2019 NCAA Wrestling Championship; or NCAA champion from a previous year AND top two from the 2019 U23 World Team Trials (must accomplish both).
Flo's article putting the semicolon in there made it seem like they were two separate criteria which is why I thought he is eligible. My b
Top 3 at the 2019 NCAA Wrestling Championship or NCAA Champion from a previous year AND top 2 from the 2019 U23 World Team Trials (must accomplish both)
Flos article:
Top three at the 2019 NCAA Wrestling Championship; or NCAA champion from a previous year AND top two from the 2019 U23 World Team Trials (must accomplish both).
Flo's article putting the semicolon in there made it seem like they were two separate criteria which is why I thought he is eligible. My b
I would take Spence every time, but I was correct saying he has slow feet. Kiss my ass on that take it’s true story, or just reaction time. He needs to stop giving up a leg and splitting. He’s going to hurt himself. He needs the Sorensen elbow control to set his moves up. He could setup so much from there and not have to worry about others offense.
No way Lee should do anything with Sorensen's style
Nick Suriano doesn't run from anybody. He may not wrestle for Iowa and he's not equal to Spencer Lee, but he's a warrior. He's probably my favorite wrestler not wearing an Iowa singlet.
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I was going to say, that's one of the wildest takes I've ever heard on this board haha. Spencer Lee needs to adopt Sorensen's offense.
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Spencer reminds me of an in his prime tiger woods. He may not win the central Minnesota trust open on an off week, but he’ll be winning the majors on Sunday. For spencer it’s just Saturday nights.
That being said with Yianni taking a RS I don’t see how Spencer isn’t the hodge favorite assuming an undefeated record.
That being said with Yianni taking a RS I don’t see how Spencer isn’t the hodge favorite assuming an undefeated record.
The person that I see as the main competition for the hodge would be Zahid at 84. It seems like he should be able to roll through that weight this year. Of course there are always surprises(injuries, health issues, etc). Also have to wonder if both Lee and Zahid wrestle limited matches in their preparation for their Olympic runs, will it hurt their chances at the Hodge.
Yes agree they will have to do some freestyle tournaments during the season. Gross already said he will be at Farrell Nov or Open Dec at 57kg.
I honestly didn't think anyone would take the" he's running from Teasdale" as anything other than a joke. I think we all know what Suriano is about becuase Flo has an article on him every day!
Heads up, that was another joke.
You are the same guy posting that Assad wasn't that great and had a ceiling of 5th place or something stupid. It is weird that a big Hawk fan would argue so much against one of our guys being great. Similar to Scyred, crablegs, and rassling who aren't Hawkeye fans.
I haven’t heard, but Cassar is undefeated against him and put up 71% bonus last year.
I call it like I see it and try to be as objective as possible about Iowa guys given my fandom. Maybe that leads me to over correct a bit, I'll admit. I will say that every year when I tally the team scores after my first stab at the NCAA brackets, I have Iowa winning without fail even though i know it's not going to happen.
In regards to Assad, my post came before his final with Plott. Before that, I didn't see him as a guy who could make multiple finals appearances. After that, he showed flashes of the elite talent that takes and I amended that take. It's not like I was basing that opinion on nothing. It was rooted in the fact that he had taken multiple losses in the past year to kids who nobody on here would label as potential multi time champs or champs at all and struggled to get to his offense consistently against high school competition.
I've also been bullish about some hawks when many on the boards were critical or skeptical of their success. I was on the Kaleb Young hype train very early. I pegged him as a potential high placer before the season started and stuck with that even when people were jumping ship calling for Glosser mid season. Same thing with Murin.
Just because I think Spencer Lee is capable of losing to another elite talent, even though I'd heavily favor him, doesn't mean I'm a secret Iowa hater in disguise.
He is also similar to Johnstown Steel who starts each new persona by pretending to be a Hawk fan.
But the majority of those were MD's. I doubt Cassar will be able to get the pin and tech ratio to be a Hodge finalist. Top 4 seems reasonable, though.
There is zero chance Steveson wins in the same season that he was arrested for sexual assault, conviction or no, even if he pins everyone.
