Teachers and school admins: Thoughts on this school budgeting idea?
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Why do you want to use one example of a mostly white/affluent school as the litmus test here?
Maybe you ought to look up what DOE actually does, across the board.
Here in Texas, legislation in Texas is being introduced by the republicans where it will illegal for school districts to call for bond votes. They are also trying to eliminate property taxes ( which is how public schools are financed. So yeh, Go public schools says Abbott ( Governor of Texas). So happy I'm outta that mess.
Tracks that OP gets his ideas from tiktok
Especially ones from rich, white people in rich white school districts in mostly white states...
On the other hand, in a district that isn't wealthy and has a large population of poor and IEP students out budget is roughly 70% Title 1 funding. So, gee, poor districts would suffer again. Shocking surprise.
It’s about weakening public education and putting money into the hands of bankers and for profit schools.
That was my thought, but they wouldn't necessarily, because the money would still be used, it just wouldn't be left to the federal DOE to dole out. It would go to the state DOE/district presumably.
You might be right, but it reads like a half truth.
So putting more money and control in the hands of local educators will harm public education?
I'm under the impression that there are many great educators out there, they're just under-resourced. I don't think local educators are the problem, and I think for the most part the money would be better in the hands of local educators than funneling through the bureaucracy, right?
Would it make you feel better if I found the same video on YouTube, X, or Facebook and posted it?
Another hand to get their cut before it gets to where it needs to go. Sorry if I'm skeptical.
You are replacing one bureaucracy with another. Although, now that I think about it there actually might be better efficiency this way. Not now, but after Trump gets done turning the entire federal government into his own personal cash register state governments will actually have a better chance of allocating the money.
You know how it goes. Republicans complain about the government not being able to do anything and then they get elected into office and set out to make sure it can't.
This was my biggest qualm. That money isn’t meant to go to places like suburban Utah schools. The bigger issue is students with special needs, and traditionally underfunded urban schools in an effort to close achievement gaps. Since it disproportionately helps the poor and racial minorities, of course Trump and MAGAts want it gone. I guarantee the fed money is more wisely spent than if you just handed districts that money,
Good point. I only had K12 in mind. I've spent very little time in my career in the realm of higher education funding (almost zero), so I won't comment on it. However, the rising cost of college education is a massive issue for young Americans, and I'm certain things can be done to curtail it.
I’m sure the DoE is over bloated and can cut a lot of the bureaucracy. I do believe that the $370k or the other 100s of thousands dollars going to well off or over performing schools is a waste.
With that being said, we should double up on what we spend on education federally and use the money in a smarter way.
With that being said, we should double up on what we spend on education federally and use the money in a smarter way.
People think you that are intellectually uninterested in seeing where our money goes and why, is the very reason we have a 35 trillion dollar deficit. The government says we need it and leftists simply ask, how much do we need to give you.
You're forgetting all the testing mandates that came out 20 years ago. How much money was dumped into that?People think you that are intellectually uninterested in seeing where our money goes and why, is the very reason we have a 35 trillion dollar deficit. The government says we need it and leftists simply ask, how much do we need to give you.
Having a federal DOE has not improved education in this country,.. Top down control of some things just doesn't work.
It has improved access for poor and minority families to get an education, though. I guess that's why all the MAGA's hate it so much. That and they won't let southern states call it the war of northern aggression anymore.
OP likes to post about the affluent, white neighborhoods, as though they represent all of "middle America"...
It has attempted to make education equal,.. Unfortunately the result has been to make education equally mediocre.
To this specific point. The department of education makes low interest loans available to college students. At much lower rates that private lenders.
This is one of the biggest pushes behind "removing the department of ed" crowd at the upper levels. There are people that will benefit greatly from charging college students higher rates at banks. in the 2022-2023 school year $98 billion was taken out in student loans for college. Imagine the wealth created from raising rates just a few % points.
If you owned a bank, you would push for this too.
Don't mind the DOGE thing, just the tard and autistic guy running it. Generally there is a reason why most things exist. Most people are generally good but most corporations tend towards greed. One will always rule the other. A lack of Governmental intervention allows corporations to run shit.
If Trump really wanted to do something, he would force a reversal of citizens united. This is at the root cause of the turmoil in this country along with social media.
That money won't go to the states. And if some does, there are states that will funnel it into vouchers rather than using it for its intended use because there won't be anyone to tell them no.
Low interest loans are what college students need, vs "loan forgiveness".
Paying 6-10% on student loan debt is what crushes them. Many (if not most) paid back the equivalent principle years ago.
I'd posted on here years ago, that college/university endowments should be underwriting 1-2% loans for them; that accomplishes a few things, including:
- Putting the institutions fully 'on the hook' for repayment, incentivizing them to provide quality education that enables payback
- Providing affordable loans to students who need them
- Adjusting loan limits vs. the curriculums provided (e.g. not lending a shit-ton for majors that are less likely to provide adequate income for loan payback, which may also mean they adjust tuitions vs. those curricula)
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Here's my belief. You and I are on completely different ends of the spectrum politically. Having said that, I would be willing to bet that we could sit down together, maybe with a little help to explains the details, and go over a school district budget, a state budget, and a federal budget, and for each one we would find expenditures where we would look at each other and say, "What the hell?!?! We're spending X amount of dollars ON THAT?!?!" This is where I am truly a fiscal conservative. Money needs to be spent, but damn is there a helluva lot of wasted dollars all over the place.People think you that are intellectually uninterested in seeing where our money goes and why, is the very reason we have a 35 trillion dollar deficit. The government says we need it and leftists simply ask, how much do we need to give you.
I was literally just talking about it to our kitchen head. "Why are we paying her to go drive around and visit schools when we could use that money to hire a couple of paras?" Wasteful spending has irritated me since Reagan's $300 hammers.
Beyond the existence of the DOE?,.. apparently not enough.
Are undergrad loans lower rate than grad school loans? I was able to do 2.5% better by moving my grad school loans to SOFI from government/mohela.
The downside was that I would not have qualified for Biden's loan forgiveness, had it happened.
I believe local school districts derive about 7% of the annual budgets from the Fed. Not arguing the merits of the national government funding local schools, but not sure why there is an entire cabinet level department simply to distribute money
