It would actually have to be "defied" and "complied with" all at the same time... Can't defend Texas AG and God at the same time.So explain how the shooter could have exercised free will and defied your god's "plan".
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It would actually have to be "defied" and "complied with" all at the same time... Can't defend Texas AG and God at the same time.So explain how the shooter could have exercised free will and defied your god's "plan".
So the TX AG claiming is was God's plan was full of shit. Thnx. You could have said that pages ago.I can't know what God's plan is now exactly. But, I do believe the shooter had free will. I also believe he was probably demonic.
See, it's possible to debate most everything. How do you know we're not living in a Matrix controlled by Martians?
We don't.
But, we hope to find out one day.
There are sects of Christianity that emphasize what happens is all part of “God’s Devine plan”…Calvinism runs pretty deep thru most sects of fundamental, evangelical Christianity.God didn't "direct" him to do anything. He chose evil using his own free will.
God gets blamed for all the bad in America and no credit for the good.
It makes no sense to me.
So the TX AG claiming is was God's plan was full of shit. Thnx. You could have said that pages ago.
Does it include living in Ottumwa?If god has a plan, so does the devil
True...had he not gone to kill them then THAT would have become the plan, I suppose. Brian's god is fickle.It would actually have to be "defied" and "complied with" all at the same time... Can't defend Texas AG and God at the same time.
True...had he not gone to kill them then THAT would have become the plan, I suppose. Brian's god is fickle.
Are you f'n kidding here?How do you know?
Now you're claiming the TX AG CAN know what the plan is? You really, REALLY need to sit down somewhere quiet and think deeply about what you actually believe because it appears you just make shit up as you go along.I can't know what God's plan is now exactly.
Are you f'n kidding here?
Now you're claiming the TX AG CAN know what the plan is? You really, REALLY need to sit down somewhere quiet and think deeply about what you actually believe because it appears you just make shit up as you go along.
An atheist is actually someone who lacks belief in A god. Given that, many may chose to follow Thor, Morpheus, Zeus, etc., and not be considered an atheist.Remind me please: how are you not an atheist?!
An atheist is someone that lacks belief in God.
How are you not that?
If god has a plan, so does the devil
That's the beauty of THE_DEVIL. He needs no plans and has no plans. Opportunities just present themselves with out having to work for them. You just have to-Does it include living in Ottumwa?
Why did God create satan, knowing full well what suffering he would bring to the world?I don't believe that. I doubt most Christians do.
Would anything I say change your mind on God? If so, feel free to email me @ username + gmail. I will answer any questions you have and don't mind sharing personal experiences.I'll own that. Now how about what the Texas AG said? How does that fit with the Christian god?
Why did God create satan, know full well what suffering he would bring to the world?
Why does God need to test us?Because Satan and his minions have an important role to play: they test us to make us choose God or not.
I was an atheist for 8 years. In August of 2016, I had a horrendous experience one night. I'm almost certain it was demonic.
So, I was an atheist but was tested and made a different choice. It's called free will.
I have 3 children, I have never felt the need to test them to see if they love me. Why would God need it?
My children also have free will to love me or not and I want what is best for them. I would never kill them or send them to everlasting torment because they didn’t love me.Because He gave us free will and wants what's best for us, just like you want what's best for your children.
My children also have free will to love me or not and I want what is best for them. I would never kill them or send them to everlasting torment because they didn’t love me.
And if they choose not to love him what does he do to them?I don't think God does that either.
He simply allows us to choose.
He does? Don’t tell John Calvin this.Because He gave us free will and wants what's best for us, just like you want what's best for your children.
You've got this backwards. God gets credit for many miracles. People recovering from illness or kids being found alive in the woods after a few days. He never gets blamed for when the kid is found dead or the person dies in the hospital.God didn't "direct" him to do anything. He chose evil using his own free will.
God gets blamed for all the bad in America and no credit for the good.
It makes no sense to me.
And if they choose not to love him what does he do to them?
You've got this backwards. God gets credit for many miracles. People recovering from illness or kids being found alive in the woods after a few days. He never gets blamed for when the kid is found dead or the person dies in the hospital.
He might be...but his spirit and religious philosophy is alive and well. With no end in sight.He's dead.
He might be...but his spirit and religious philosophy is alive and well. With no end in sight.
Do you believe God is forgiving?True, but it's a minority among Christendom.
Even someone who has done heinous things to others?Very.
No he sentences them to burn in hell forever.He allows them to separate themselves from His love.
Even someone who has done heinous things to others?
No he sentences them to burn in hell forever.
I really think your heart is in the right place but I just can’t think of believing in the God of Abraham, like you and I both grew up doing. There is just too much there that doesn’t make sense.He allows them to separate themselves from His love.
If God doesn't allow them into Heaven has He really forgiven them? Why would He send someone He loves and has forgiven to damnation?Yes. God is love so He loves everyone.
(It doesn't mean everyone gets to Heaven though, not even close, IMO.)
I really think your heart is in the right place but I just can’t think of believing in the God of Abraham, like you and I both grew up doing. There is just too much there that doesn’t make sense.
Does God have the power to direct people to Heaven?They sentence themselves.
Perhaps this is an apt analogy: I have a cousin that's an alcoholic. Everyone is trying to help her stop drinking. She doesn't want to stop. She denies she has a problem. She lies about it.
We, her family, aren't forcing her to drink. She wants to and doesn't want to stop.
If God doesn't allow them into Heaven has He really forgiven them? Why would He send someone He loves and has forgiven to damnation?
Does God have the power to direct people to Heaven?