I was a little rough on some of the snowflakes onto people who can have a discussion.
The BLM movement is based on a false premise... and now it is harming the Iowa football program
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Fair, but my point is no one is going to listen or engage in a civil discussion with him because of his posting style.
It’s sad, and shows how far we still have to go. I’m sure these stats and talking points are circulating all over white nationalist websites.
I find it interesting two separate posters have addressed me, yet refuse to try and explain it. I’m not surprised, however.
We need alot more responses like this, thoughtful, reasoned and articulate. Watch some Hodge Brothers on youtube for some truth and comic relief. Why don't people get this upset over the daily killing of black on black, which is astronomically higher.
I have two questions.
1. Are you white or black?
If the answer to #1 is black then...
2. Would you want to live in this country as a black man and be treated as they are?
Csb. I can play the stats game, too.
"Sadly, the trend of fatal police shootings in the United States seems to only be increasing, with a total 429 civilians having been shot, 88 of whom were Black, as of June 4, 2020. In 2018, there were 996 fatal police shootings, and in 2019 this figure increased to 1,004. Additionally, the rate of fatal police shootings among Black Americans was much higher than that for any other ethnicity, standing at 30 fatal shootings per million of the population as of June 2020."
https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/
Seriously, OiT, shut up.
Really? Link to BLM claiming police are the greatest threat?
I can’t believe the stupidity. Forming an argument based on a made up falsehood is not just wrong, it is exactly wrong.
Your describing candidate for president Biden. He co-sponsored the legislation back in the 1990's that incarcerated so many black males due to the crack cocaine epidemic.
you know it all BS. you are pretty close to the U of I , correct? is the university racist? seriously.
This post puzzles me. It establishes that people know that systematic racism exists. So why pretend it doesn't exist for police work?
OiT, with you, there is no space for a rational discussion.
I don't think a message board predominantly filled with white people is where you'll get your answer. I know my level of understanding, or more accurately my level ignorance, was exposed a couple years ago when I had a series of very candid conversations with folks that have lived a life if experiences I will never know. There is a burden that young black men bear that is not recorded with statistics and is frankly hard to comprehend as an outsider. Your best bet is to find someone that has had these experiences and to do your best job of listening without tryng to solve the problems in the moment, or being on the defensive.
It's hokey, but...peace, love and (especially) understanding are the way toward a common goal.
Body cams are good. Honestly for both sides public and the police been shootings where if not a body cam some could blame the cop and is justified cause he had. I know around 2010 when they first started coming. It’s hard to believe lot of cars 20 years ago didn’t even have video cameras in them.
ive asked friend in law enforcement why some do and don’t have. Said lot of it comes down to $ and budget and lot that don’t would prefer to. So like in Iowa you’ll see larger counties like Johnson and linn have and others smaller counties or cities don’t. I have no clue if Minneapolis does or not but would be a good start if they don’t.
Systemic Racism, also known as structural or institutional racism, is reflected in disparities in healthcare, educational, political, and criminal justice systems. Systemic racism is also a disparity in behaviors and beliefs.
Even with insurance African Americans receive worse medical care-systemic racism.
African Americans are sentenced more harshly for equal crimes-systemic racism.
African Americans are more likely to receive a substandard education and be illiterate-systemic racism.
A couple clear HROT examples:
1. Remember when HROT conservatives used Arbery’s criminal history to somehow justify his murder and implied he had it coming? Crazy how they are doing the same thing with Floyd. Actually, it’s not crazy, it’s systemic racism reflected in their beliefs that all black people “had it coming.”
2. The same posters who attempt to provide cover for Chauvin’s actions are also infinitely more upset about graffiti on a statue that can be cleaned off than Floyd’s murder. This is a clear example that many people believe black lives matter less than property. (And that many use vandalism to delegitimize the BLM, is also systemic racism.)
Even with insurance African Americans receive worse medical care-systemic racism.
African Americans are sentenced more harshly for equal crimes-systemic racism.
African Americans are more likely to receive a substandard education and be illiterate-systemic racism.
A couple clear HROT examples:
1. Remember when HROT conservatives used Arbery’s criminal history to somehow justify his murder and implied he had it coming? Crazy how they are doing the same thing with Floyd. Actually, it’s not crazy, it’s systemic racism reflected in their beliefs that all black people “had it coming.”
2. The same posters who attempt to provide cover for Chauvin’s actions are also infinitely more upset about graffiti on a statue that can be cleaned off than Floyd’s murder. This is a clear example that many people believe black lives matter less than property. (And that many use vandalism to delegitimize the BLM, is also systemic racism.)
Also, in addition to my other questions (see above)...have you ever bothered to research why this is? Do you know anything about private prisons, Clinton's 3 strike law, systematic racism levied via policy against black communities long before you were born? Any understanding of the impact of young black boys growing up w/o father figures? This issue is so much larger than, "dem white boys sure don't like dem black boys."
quit hiding behind stats!
so the answer is to burn down the AutoZone. clearly. that way if the African American goes outside and his car does not start, the nearest AutoZone is not available to help.
Few were outraged when the Pentacrest got tagged. Why is Kinnick different? I mean we all know why. Iowa football. But it's telling that this is the last stand for so many. It's even more telling since Kinnick gets trashed every football Saturday but nobody says a peep.
Piss, puke, and trash everywhere is ok? But some paint, that actually has some real symbolism behind it, is a bridge too far?
Hearing from the players directly is the best way to better understand what has been going on and how it can effect the Uni of Iowa Athletics Dept.
Nowadays I think that its really hard to seperate the sports and politics, seems like everything is deeply intertwined because of social justice and social media. Some players are moderate, some are democrat, some are republican. How does a black democrat player vs black republican minded player see the situation? There are black republican players out there but I'd say there in the minority and less likely to give there thoughts due to peer pressure and blowback. thanks for speaking up with your viewpoints and taking the time to discuss. The country needs dialogue
Sure.
But why would I waste time on an obvious mental midget?
If you honestly need it explained to you, then you are a stupid human being.
Something that has been asked and answered is understandable,
However people here commonly post by innuendo and vagueness. There is nothing improper about asking someone to clarify their position with specificity.
Don't forget to include that this country and many people have in it have been fighting for almost 200 years to correct and fix the injustices brought upon blacks. If it went on for 400 years then its reasonable to think it could take that long to expunge it from our nation and society. Take a few minutes to listen to the song "400 years" by Bob Marley and the Wailers, a great song.
You are a racist. You approach the issue from a racist perspective and present data as if it supports a rational angle.
Typical of an ultra right wing extremist.
Still no answers from you and only giving insults.
Good to hear, because that’s not the typical response here.
When someone asks another member to clarify their position it’s often met with obfuscation and deflection.
There have been so many posts on here about it. I try to maintain a balanced approach to this subject because it is obviously an emotional one. But if you really have to ask about the arguments put forth regarding systemic racism, then you are just choosing to remain ignorant.
