The BLM movement is based on a false premise... and now it is harming the Iowa football program
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The privilege to be ignorant, and the supreme privilege to deny one’s ignorance.
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You literally did the exact thing exactly as was described in the post to which you responded. Excellent.
Body cams are required. And required to be on. (Mr. Noor didn't have his on when he shot Ms Damon. The main reason Ms Harteau was fired as Chief.)
I am waiting for op's facts to be posted that black lives matter is harming the Iowa football program?
Legalize drugs and 90% of this shit goes away. That’s the reason our police forces were militarized and blacks draw the overwhelming brunt of it.
Talk about systemic racism.
Talk about systemic racism.
You don’t destroy anyone. You act like a freaking 13 year old plugging his ears screaming. You are the problem, you wanna blame everything but The actual problems. His stats aren’t wrong, and you continually ignoring them and not acknowledgeing it’s an issue shows how simple minded you are.
This thread is comedy gold - “I was willing to consider this whole racial equality nonsense, but then it affected my college football team/stadium!!! Now I’m angry, who do those people think they are!!”
Equality can’t be mandated. It has to come from the heart and vowing to put a stop to it. We each have to individually do it to affect change. And when people voice opinions that seem to reverse that trend, help them understand by example.
So the Supreme Court didn't need to legalize gay marriage afterall?
Way to try to distort my statement. No of course laws are helpful in certain instances however plenty of discrimination and stereotyping exist anyway. Some of it doesn’t amount to laws being broken. Statements that fall within free speech but are hurtful nonetheless. Statements that people have a right to express. So rather, we need to change opinions and behavior instead as laws will not address the problem entirely. As is demonstrably self evident. Don’t you agree?
That would effectively extinguish the very profitable prison industrial complex.
The laws themselves are inherently racist. That is why changing the laws can help to alleviate a lot of this. Sure changing people's minds and hearts are necessary goals, but fixing the laws is equally important and unavoidable if you want real change.
Which laws related to BLM currently are inherently racist?
This. BLM isn’t just about police brutality, it is about the systemic injustices in the legal system that disproportionately affect black people.
Black people are 4x more likely to have their vehicles searched by police, even though those searches are less likely to turn up contraband than searches of white people.
Black people are 4x as likely to be arrested for marijuana possession, despite being no more likely to use marijuana.
Black men on average receive harsher prison sentences than white men convicted of the same crime.
To deny that there is an issue with racially biased policing is simply burying your head in the sand and refusing to acknowledge that a problem exists.
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Twice in my past I’ve been pulled over for no reason. Both times additional cops arrived on scene to assist because the cop “smelled weed”. Both times it was Skoal straight they smelled. Despite my insistence, my vehicle was searched. I’m not disputing what you said, just adding my experience to your post.
The issues aren't as cut and dry as both sides of this argument make them out to be.
With out a doubt DWB happens especially in affluent areas. Yes black men receive harsher sentences. This is probably the bigger issue.
But on the flip side they are committing these crimes at a much higher rate of their total population. Even if you account for the extra policing of predominantly black ereas.
With out a doubt DWB happens especially in affluent areas. Yes black men receive harsher sentences. This is probably the bigger issue.
But on the flip side they are committing these crimes at a much higher rate of their total population. Even if you account for the extra policing of predominantly black ereas.
I think this smelled weed ruse needs to go away. Way to easy to claim if you’re a corrupt cop looking to violate rights.
If you’re impaired or you have visible drugs or paraphernalia fine. Then search is warranted.
But this smell crap, well, stinks.
I’d really like to see a lot of changes made to policing but to ignore the problems created by single parent homes, of any race, is a mistake. That culture needs to change. Now. You father a baby you take responsibility.
It isn’t as simple as a father figure. It also has to do with there being a greater chance of an adult at home at most times. If the mom has to hold two jobs cuz there is no dad around, it’s pretty hard to keep a complete eye on what’s going on with the kids.
It isn’t as simple as a father figure. It also has to do with there being a greater chance of an adult at home at most times. If the mom has to hold two jobs cuz there is no dad around, it’s pretty hard to keep a complete eye on what’s going on with the kids.
The solution of de-funding or given less funds BLM is pushing for is music to criminals ears. The result will be making things worse in these poor areas.
But I think BLM will become pretty silent around August of this year just like in 2016. Them yelling de-fund the police will scare the crap out of voters come November.
But I think BLM will become pretty silent around August of this year just like in 2016. Them yelling de-fund the police will scare the crap out of voters come November.
Yes, this conversation is much broader than poor policing practices. There is a major wealth gap that has been created over the past forty years due to socialism in reverse. A lot of children in even two-parent homes are not being parented very well because both parents are working long hours just to make ends meet.
But I'm told that type of rhetoric is sickle and hammer promoting, so whatchu got, Abe?
Its not just about murder. Its about being stopped for DWB and any host of other interactions black people have with law enforcement. You can choose to not believe it happens but that doesn't make your opinion correct.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Lives_Matter
"In the summer of 2013, after George Zimmerman's acquittal for the shooting death of Trayvon Martin, the movement began with the hashtag #BlackLivesMatter. The movement was co-founded by three black community organizers: Alicia Garza, Patrisse Cullors, and Opal Tometi. Garza, Cullors and Tometi met through "Black Organizing for Leadership & Dignity" (BOLD), a national organization that trains community organizers. They began to question how they were going to respond to what they saw as the devaluation of black lives after Zimmerman's acquittal. Garza wrote a Facebook post titled "A Love Note to Black People" in which she said: "Our Lives Matter, Black Lives Matter". Cullors replied: "#BlackLivesMatter". Tometi then added her support, and Black Lives Matter was born as an online campaign."
Underline and bold emphasis is mine. This is the premise of the BLM movement, not a statistical disparity of black deaths from police brutality.
There was a strong perception in the black community that many whites were reacting to Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown's deaths with an attitude of "what's the big deal, they were both criminal thugs" and that both young men were dehumanized a great deal, and BLM is a response to that reaction.
"In the summer of 2013, after George Zimmerman's acquittal for the shooting death of Trayvon Martin, the movement began with the hashtag #BlackLivesMatter. The movement was co-founded by three black community organizers: Alicia Garza, Patrisse Cullors, and Opal Tometi. Garza, Cullors and Tometi met through "Black Organizing for Leadership & Dignity" (BOLD), a national organization that trains community organizers. They began to question how they were going to respond to what they saw as the devaluation of black lives after Zimmerman's acquittal. Garza wrote a Facebook post titled "A Love Note to Black People" in which she said: "Our Lives Matter, Black Lives Matter". Cullors replied: "#BlackLivesMatter". Tometi then added her support, and Black Lives Matter was born as an online campaign."
Underline and bold emphasis is mine. This is the premise of the BLM movement, not a statistical disparity of black deaths from police brutality.
There was a strong perception in the black community that many whites were reacting to Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown's deaths with an attitude of "what's the big deal, they were both criminal thugs" and that both young men were dehumanized a great deal, and BLM is a response to that reaction.
Well I say that the welfare policies in place encourage single parenthood.
There needs to be a 2 parent dividend. If you fall below a certain income level and both parents live in the same home then parents get what amounts to a payment like the earned income credit. Let’s make it work out better financially to have both parents in the home. Rather than better to not.
I’d also rather subsidize daycare than subsidize one or both parents not having jobs. I know that’ll ruffle some feathers but just my thoughts. I’m not saying free daycare. Just assistance in one form or another
To your first paragraph: Gross oversimplification. And a slippery slope that would encourage more women to seek abortions.
To your last paragraph: Agreed.
Voting rights, disproportionate sentencing, bail system inequalities, we still have problems with the systematic stop and frisk laws, ect.
Actually it's true. The estimates range between 65% at the lower end to 80% at the upper end.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/African-American_family_structure
Do People actually believe that these things never happen to any other race than blacks? Nobody would know because society and the media don’t cover it. If a white or Asian person is resisting arrest, not complying, or becoming physical, they too will experience these things. Nobody agrees with what happened and how the police handled the situation. Again, however, do people believe the black race Is the only ones that experience this? Are people really that sheltered?
Nobody is claiming it doesn’t happen to other races. It’s that it happens much more often to blacks and other marginalized minorities. That is what disparity means and those disparities are what defines systemic racism.
And how do you know that? Perception? Please show me stats on that. One can look at stats and see that blacks commit many more violent crimes than whites and are thus much more likely to interact with police as a result of that. Crimes are not committed equally between races either. Those are facts. I’m not saying that systemic racism is not a concern, but the FBI stats tell of a glaring disparity in how races commit crimes which lead to more interactions with police.
Looking at stats and running stats are two different things. Correlation and causation, also, aren’t same. Look up regression statistical analysis. It’s a fools errand to look at numbers and infer causal relationships without calculating the statistical relationships between variables. A common analogy: in the summer, murders increase and ice cream consumption goes up. Does eating ice cream cause murder? No. This is merely a stark example to drive the point home. There are often other variables at play that are ignored. For example, racial profiling would contribute to more contacts; more contacts would contribute to more arrests; more arrests would contribute to greater FBI statistics. The high prevalence of racial profiling may be a third variable.
You realize your "experience" is included in the stats. So for your two times, a black man was pulled over eight times.
