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The IOWA Offensive Line. We have heard how good it is.

Made the mid-season Joe Moore award honor roll .......................

The U Conn Huskies offensive line is among a group of o-lines from #7 Alabama, Army, #10 Clemson, Iowa, #18 Kansas State, Louisiana, #13 LSU, #6 Miami, #24 Michigan, Navy, #2 Ohio State, #3 Oregon, #4 Penn State, Rutgers, #25 SMU, #8 Tennessee, #1 Texas, Texas Tech, UNLV, Western Michigan, and West Virginia to make the mid-point honor roll.

https://hawkeyesports.com/news/2024/10/10/iowa-o-line-named-to-joe-moore-midseason-honor-roll/
 
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Made the mid-season Joe Moore award honor roll .......................

The U Conn Huskies offensive line is among a group of o-lines from #7 Alabama, Army, #10 Clemson, Iowa, #18 Kansas State, Louisiana, #13 LSU, #6 Miami, #24 Michigan, Navy, #2 Ohio State, #3 Oregon, #4 Penn State, Rutgers, #25 SMU, #8 Tennessee, #1 Texas, Texas Tech, UNLV, Western Michigan, and West Virginia to make the mid-point honor roll.

https://hawkeyesports.com/news/2024/10/10/iowa-o-line-named-to-joe-moore-midseason-honor-roll/
While the passing game is a long way from where we’d like or thought it would be, it’s hard to see how people don’t see the strides the running game has made, and blocking in general.
 
Against lower level teams, yes.
Is ISU a lower level team?

No they weren’t at their best against Ohio State….thats one of the best units in all of college football, and they still held their own for the first 30 minutes even then.

I’m not saying this is a great unit, but is it that hard to say they’ve improved a great deal from last year?
 
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While the passing game is a long way from where we’d like or thought it would be, it’s hard to see how people don’t see the strides the running game has made, and blocking in general.
I'd agree with this. I think in some ways this group is just limited from an athletic perspective. I'm no expert by any stretch, but maybe that explains more than anything some of the struggles we still see in pass protection where balance, quickness, and footwork, particularly at the tackle position becomes so important vs the run game where strength and technique might be the most important aspects. If you're not blessed with that natural ability, no amount of coaching or development is going to overcome it.
 
I'd agree with this. I think in some ways this group is just limited from an athletic perspective. I'm no expert by any stretch, but maybe that explains more than anything some of the struggles we still see in pass protection where balance, quickness, and footwork, particularly at the tackle position becomes so important vs the run game where strength and technique might be the most important aspects. If you're not blessed with that natural ability, no amount of coaching or development is going to overcome it.
Pass blocking is something that can be so hard to gauge how good or not they are I think. A guy loses leverage for a split-second, gets fooled for just a moment on a stunt, or sometimes the presnap read is wrong and they got fooled by what the D was showing. Those aren’t necessarily signs of a bad line.

It also doesn’t help that while he’s better in the pocket by several orders of magnitude than Deacon or Petras, Cade still prefers to operate from the pocket and doesn’t like to move around much, due at least partly to Cade clearly imo lacking confidence in his knees. Lots harder to block when the D can pretty much rely on the QB being at a fixed point.

I neve know how to really gauge athleticism, especially for OL/DL positions. I do think both Richmond and Colby have decent chances of being drafted next spring for what it’s worth.
 
These guys have been here for a TON of years and are only slightly better. With as much experience as they have individually and as a unit, they should be much better than they are. JMHO.
Agree to disagree if you think they’re only slightly better than last year.
 
Pass blocking is something that can be so hard to gauge how good or not they are I think. A guy loses leverage for a split-second, gets fooled for just a moment on a stunt, or sometimes the presnap read is wrong and they got fooled by what the D was showing. Those aren’t necessarily signs of a bad line.

It also doesn’t help that while he’s better in the pocket by several orders of magnitude than Deacon or Petras, Cade still prefers to operate from the pocket and doesn’t like to move around much, due at least partly to Cade clearly imo lacking confidence in his knees. Lots harder to block when the D can pretty much rely on the QB being at a fixed point.

I neve know how to really gauge athleticism, especially for OL/DL positions. I do think both Richmond and Colby have decent chances of being drafted next spring for what it’s worth.
Colby might be a good example of what I was thinking about. They tried him at tackle and it was a huge fail. He's fine inside but i think it was his lack of quickness that was exposed on a regular basis out there. He might have a career at guard like you said. I don't see Richman having an NFL career at tackle, but who knows. I certainly don't.
 
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Colby might be a good example of what I was thinking about. They tried him at tackle and it was a huge fail. He's fine inside but i think it was his lack of quickness that was exposed on a regular basis out there. He might have a career at guard like you said. I don't see Richman having an NFL career at tackle, but who knows. I certainly don't.
Who knows, Richmond is another guy that might slide inside if he can stick in the NFL.

All other complaints about Kirk aside, I still generally trust him when it comes to OL evals. Part of the reason Colby started at tackle was due to guys leaving/injuries as I recall.
 
Who knows, Richmond is another guy that might slide inside if he can stick in the NFL.

All other complaints about Kirk aside, I still generally trust him when it comes to OL evals. Part of the reason Colby started at tackle was due to guys leaving/injuries as I recall.
Agree. It's at tackle where I don't see a real opportunity for Richmond. Agree on Colby as well, although wasn't he recruited as a tackle?
 
Agree. It's at tackle where I don't see a real opportunity for Richmond. Agree on Colby as well, although wasn't he recruited as a tackle?
It’s what he played in HS I think, tho I always take stuff like that with a grain of salt. Never know how that translates in college sometimes.
He could have hit 100 if he'd had more than 15 carries. That one's a mystery.
Feel like in large part that’s due to how quickly the game got away from them. Got to 21-0 in what? First 6 min of 3rd quarter and then Iowa had to abandon the run to an extent.
 
It’s what he played in HS I think, tho I always take stuff like that with a grain of salt. Never know how that translates in college sometimes.

Feel like in large part that’s due to how quickly the game got away from them. Got to 21-0 in what? First 6 min of 3rd quarter and then Iowa had to abandon the run to an extent.
I'm not sure how you can say that when he had only received 8 carries in a 7-0 first half. That's the mystery to me. Unless you're suggesting that they'd already waved the white flag in the first half. Again, I don't get it.
 
Is ISU a lower level team?

No they weren’t at their best against Ohio State….thats one of the best units in all of college football, and they still held their own for the first 30 minutes even then.

I’m not saying this is a great unit, but is it that hard to say they’ve improved a great deal from last year?
They have, but it seems for only half a game against most competition.
 
Iowa doesn't play in a vacuum. You brought up lower level teams. All teams play some weak teams and perform better against them.
Yes, other teams do play lower level. This is about Iowa, i don't care about other teams and who they play. Iowa struggled vs Ill St for a half and have yet to put a full game together, even against the lower level teams.
 
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Yes, other teams do play lower level. This is about Iowa, i don't care about other teams and who they play. Iowa struggled vs Ill St for a half and have yet to put a full game together, even against the lower level teams.
Pretty much put that full game together. Still on pace for 10-2. Most can see the o line improvement this year. Maybe you just can't. GO HAWKS!
 
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