The next 2-3 weeks
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Plus he was put in a position where the defense knew that he had to pass to do anything significant. Can't accurately judge his passing in that scenario. Plus, no prior game experience at all due to the incompetence of the HC.
Agree- no evidence at all that Barnett has done anything resulting in OL improvement.
Can't accurately judge anyone on the offensive side of the ball when the entire thing is completely broken and dysfunctional. I have no idea why any offensive player would want to come to Iowa at this point.
Why the OC hire is so important The hire needs to be a Coach who has a proven scheme and has had success. If Kirk bombs this hire Iowa football will start an end of the Fry era slide.
Get RID of The Capt.
No progress until he's gone.
He is the root of our problems.
No progress until he's gone.
He is the root of our problems.
that and they put him in 5 wide which is ridiculous to do to guy taking his first snaps.
it kind of pissed me off to be honest. Credit that kid for making the most of it. A pathetic move by the coaches.
I watch a lot of CFB. There is no other team that I’ve watched over the last several years that routinely does shit like this regularly with such a complete lack of self awareness.
I agree that a new OC should be able to bring in his own offensive staff including OL, WR and QB coaches. I doubt that will happen, though, becuse KF is too damn loyal.
Kirk said yesterday that the new OC must mesh well with the current staff.
Dont expect kirk to hire anyone that will challenge him
Dont expect kirk to hire anyone that will challenge him
Especially when the OL is a screen door and all 5 patterns Brian has schemed take a full cycle of the sundial to develop
Since James Daniels started tweeting.
I always wondered why he came to such a bad place, especially when his older brother had already experienced the horrors.
They come to Iowa because it is Big 10 P5 football. And they should be able to get playing time if they are good.
Great recruiters can sell that kind of situation like they can sell an old junker car that has been in a few accidents.
Lainez running was impressive...a real coach would have gotten him on the field earlier in season just to make use of his legs in run-likely situations. I've watched a lot of Iowa football games...I remember Ricky Stanzi doing a read option of the DE and keeping the ball vs Illinois back in KOK days and that is about the last time I remember that play being run at Iowa by a QB and QB keeping the ball....that is a staple of college football and not even in the Iowa offense. It looked like Brian tried to run something like that with Lainez...but by that time UT was just sending the house on every play.
Lainez needs to be able to pass the ball...but the does have the legs. I would rather go with a guy that can run and teach him to pass than stick with a slow footed pocket passer like Deacon Hill that really can't do anything but be a pocket passer.
I get what you’re saying but it feels like the Fry era slide happened pretty quickly and then he was just gone. This one feels like it could be a continued slow slide into oblivion. It’s already happening as Iowa can’t even compete with ranked teams anymore, yet some are blinded by “10 wins.”
Maybe, similar to Michigan develop a small package of plays for the back up/change up qb each game
Nope. The OC needs to make a condition of taking the job be:
1) Deacon Hill is QB4...or lower...or I am not taking the job.
I think you put Hill at #3 but defacto #4.
For example if assuming Cade and Marco are #1 and #2 and they get hurt next season then you play Hill until 4 games left so Resar can take over without burning a year.
If I were a high level offensive player and witnessed the shit show that the Iowa offense had become I wouldn't walk, I would run in the other direction.
Probably not, but having NFL success at that one position hasn't done anything to make the Iowa offense functional or watchable.
Most of it comes down to the amount of money being offered to these high level kids. Nebraska is pulling in 4* guys left and right with transfers as well. That sure as shit isn't due to their 115th ranked offense.
There you go, Univs are just buying teams, reminds me of some of those old 1940's and 50's sports movies with John Wayne, Reagan, etc where the coach is handing out the brown paper bags and envelopes to guys who are like 25 years old and faking their backgrounds to win some games.
Schulte had 67 tackles, 4th on the team. Castro had 65. Different positions, but Schulte is only in position to tackle when a play breaks past linebackers, which didn't happen often. BTW, FWIW X only had 42 tackles. He seems to shy away from contact. As a safety, this is not good IMO. I'm not sure he deserved his 5 stars. Time still there, but clock ticking.
It's a new regime that doesn't have a 3 year history of being a national punchline. Iowa could be littered with 4 star players and the offense would still suck. Petras was a 4 star QB. How did he do? College football is still all about the coaching staff.
Ridding the program of the national stink associated with Brian is a good first step. If Kirk can find a way to bring in a decent offensive staff, that's how the offense is going to recover. The money helps, but it's not the solution.
No, but I think there is a better than 50% chance hes the backup to a fragile QB1
you are strawmannirg here hard. You first stated that offensive players should run from Iowa. I stated to you that they are drawn for playing time, but IMO more money is a key driving force. I agree that this hire is likely the most important hire of the KF era, and will either solidify him as one of the best coaches at Iowa, or make it a very painful 4-5 years for fans.
I believe you are mistaken about Hill being the starter ever again. If you are correct, it will give me a reason to start a new hobby on Saturdays next fall as I won't watch a team with Deacon at QB.
No strawmanning. You said players are going to Nebraska because in spite of the shitty offense last year, they are paying the money. Nebraska and their staff haven't been the poster child for laughably bad offensive football the last 3 years. Iowa has.
Legit, you were arguing that the OC was important, I would never argue that the OC position could be solved with money, that is the definition of a straw man. With regards to Debby, they are the only power 5 school that hasn't been to a bowl in 7 years, they don't place players in early rounds of the draft...If you think that Raiola came because of their dominant offense that is laughable.
Never said anything close to this but this discussion is off the rails so I'll end it here. Put a decent offensive staff together instead of the shit show we have today and everything else becomes possible. Money is secondary.
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