This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...
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It seems while the Russians can't do anything without the Ukrainians knowing because of western intel and their own assets. The Russians intel on the Ukrainians isn't near as good....which is somewhat surprising.
"Ukrainian Air Force can recruit foreigners after receiving new NATO fighter jets as pilots or employees of the aviation engineering staff."
There are several similar posts today. Some mention the aircraft turned off their transponders.
Maybe already SOP but escort provided for manned surveillance aircraft.
Maybe already SOP but escort provided for manned surveillance aircraft.
Name one thing Russia has done well military on a large scale in the last year. Executing civilians and bombing apartment buildings doesn’t count. None of their weapons systems, their logistics, their command and control, or their Intel have been effective. The Russians thought they’d have a few firefights, and have a parade in Kyiv by D+3.
Not gonna lie. For an aircraft fan boy like me, those planes gave me a small bonner. Nais. Very nice.
In due deference, the Russians are getting the D up their A on a daily basis.
I think it is either misdirection, and if not, for the political consumption of supporting countries so they feel like they are getting a payoff for what they are giving.
Ukraine leadership must have done a good job of ferreting out spies and those with questionable loyalty.
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Without reading the article, is there any left?Progozhin knows which way the wind blows. Better to get out now.
Yevgeny Prigozhin to Reportedly Pivot Russian Wagner Group Away From War in Ukraine
Yevgeny Prigozhin is reportedly preparing to pull his Wagner Group mercenaries’ attention away from the war in Ukraine after a slew of failures and infighting.www.thedailybeast.com
For those wondering, that plane is a Saab Jas 39 Gripen (Griffin in English).
The remaining Wagnorites probably mostly consist of the guys, who were responsible for forcing the lower rank soldiers (convicts), at gunpoint, proceed to the front.
Yeeaah buddy! Get the Russians out of the left bank area and they are on their heels...
www.yahoo.com
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Ukraine using Soviet-era choppers to pummel Russia from afar
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Putin’s shattered army will never recover
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"The Swedish parliament approved an additional military aid package for Ukraine worth 6.2 billion kronor (about $600 million) on March 23.
The new package proposed by the country's government includes Leopard 2 tanks, Archer self-propelled artillery systems, Robotsystem 97 missile systems as well as ammunition.
The Swedish parliament also approved sending 14 Archer systems to the U.K. to replace the older AS-90 self-propelled artillery systems it had donated to Ukraine.
Earlier, the Swedish government decided to provide Ukraine with eight Archer systems and up to ten German-made Leopard main battle tanks.
Archer is one of the world's most advanced artillery systems, capable of firing projectiles at a distance of up to 50 kilometers.
Sweden joins several other European nations, including Germany, Poland, Norway, Spain, the Netherlands, and Finland, which have pledged Leopard tanks to Ukraine. The U.K. and U.S. have also promised to transfer tanks from their arsenals. "
https://kyivindependent.com/news-fe...proves-600-million-in-military-aid-to-ukraine
The new package proposed by the country's government includes Leopard 2 tanks, Archer self-propelled artillery systems, Robotsystem 97 missile systems as well as ammunition.
The Swedish parliament also approved sending 14 Archer systems to the U.K. to replace the older AS-90 self-propelled artillery systems it had donated to Ukraine.
Earlier, the Swedish government decided to provide Ukraine with eight Archer systems and up to ten German-made Leopard main battle tanks.
Archer is one of the world's most advanced artillery systems, capable of firing projectiles at a distance of up to 50 kilometers.
Sweden joins several other European nations, including Germany, Poland, Norway, Spain, the Netherlands, and Finland, which have pledged Leopard tanks to Ukraine. The U.K. and U.S. have also promised to transfer tanks from their arsenals. "
https://kyivindependent.com/news-fe...proves-600-million-in-military-aid-to-ukraine
I have a hard time coming up with one....
Kinds crazy because you'd think at least militarily they would have learned a few lessons. Seems they've settled on attrition tactics....and their exchange rate isn't exactly a winning one.
We'll definitely see what condition they've left themselves in with the expected Ukrainian offensive,,,,
Absolutely...I thought Russia would at the very least have some human intel sources but if they do they aren't getting a whole lot out of them. Wouldn't be surprised if some of those "assets" have turned and are feeding them BS.
As mentioned several times in this mega thread, he's sh** canned quite a few people, and acted aggressively against corruption. Bad time to be a corrupt mayor/officer in Ukraine. Russian leaning people, especially in the Donbas are harder to figure out
Talking about intel. Maybe it's a case of Russia's intelligence services kind of sucking.
By that I mean they have intelligence assets...satellites, whatever human intel, signals intel and the like. Maybe they really suck at compiling it for actionable intel. Maybe it's a timeliness issue....can't get it to forward units quick enough.
There's also the fact that their leadership probably doesn't want "bad news" so they paint a rosier picture...
Very strange. That and their vaunted cyber capabilities have minimal impact.
By that I mean they have intelligence assets...satellites, whatever human intel, signals intel and the like. Maybe they really suck at compiling it for actionable intel. Maybe it's a timeliness issue....can't get it to forward units quick enough.
There's also the fact that their leadership probably doesn't want "bad news" so they paint a rosier picture...
Very strange. That and their vaunted cyber capabilities have minimal impact.
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Don’t forget pulling Korean and Vietnamese Nam era equipment out of storage and using it as coffins. Very good at that!
The only thing I can think of is ridding the prison system of a bunch of bad people (probably some decent people, as well). They (Wagner/Russia army) also made sure that they would not make it back to regular society. That's kind of a win.....depending on your thoughts on the value of human life, as it pertains to violent offenders and/or felons with long sentences.
It was win-win-win from the Krelim: kill off dangerous felons who are costly to imprison + use them as bait so Russians could identify where Ukrainian positions were firing upon the felons + make Ukraine use up weapons/resources in annihilating the felons.
They were free manual labor. Now they’re food for crows.
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Hard to believe but fantastic if true. Even if just clearing out their civilians for the battle to come.
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FTA -- this really drives home the absolute lack of morality/ethics in Russian society:
RFE/RL: When you say that the public expects change, what is this public demand for change motivated by? Do they want something changed in order to win this war, or do they want to see the war end? What exactly does the Russian public want?
Gallyamov: If he manages to win the war, great. The public wants to [return] to the prewar state when everything was relatively peaceful. The rules of the game were relatively clear: no sanctions; [and] you could earn money here, and if you are sharing this money with Putin's elites, you’ll have no problem.
You are earning this money, you transfer it to the Western world, somewhere to France, to England, to America…. And then when you [take your] pension, you will spend the rest of your life somewhere in Florida or in some other nice places in the West. So this strategy was really clear. Now it came to an end. People don't understand why, because nobody believes in all this stuff about NATO, or Ukrainian fascists. Everybody understands that this was something which could easily have been avoided.
RFE/RL: So it's not morality that is at play here?
Gallyamov: No, no, no, no.
RFE/RL: So it's not "We don't want war because it's wrong." It's the material aspect of it: “We don’t want war because it's bad for business, bad for our standard of living.” Is that what drives the public?
Gallyamov: The main thing is [it's] not just bad for business, [but] because it threatens the regime with collapse. People really feel that if he doesn't change something, if he doesn't stop what he's doing now, it will ultimately lead to a revolution. And the whole system would collapse. And all of the elites, of course, they don't want this. They want stability.
And so, of course, it's not about morals and ethics. Russian elites are absolutely immoral; they're very practically minded. So if you could win the war and tighten the screws and make everything like it was before, great, but you can't win the war. And if you insist, [then] you will lead us to revolution. No, look, stop: You can't win the war. Let us do something else. Let us negotiate. Let's stop the war. Let’s end sanctions, let’s normalize the situation in the country. We don't want this [Kremlin-connected businessmen] Yevgeny Prigozhin with his hammer running around and threatening us. So this is the general feeling -- the situation has become absolutely abnormal. It's heading towards some kind of collapse. Nobody understands [what] this collapse would look [like]. But everybody feels that it's coming.
More FWIWs than usual IMO today.
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