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This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...

You have that EXACTLY wrong. If we would have gone to war when Poland was invaded in 1939, we wouldn't have had to liberate France, Pearl Harbor wouldn't have been bombed, and 20 million lives would have been saved.
There are so many things wrong with this statement…
We were in no position to go to war in 1939. We did not have the trained units or equipment ready to go at that time.
this. FDR was using every bit of political skill he possessed to ever so slowly prepare the US for the war he knew was coming. Simply keeping the Selective Service Act in existence was a minor miracle. All well and good to say we should have intervened in 1938-39. Completely overlooks how unprepared for war the country was, and how strong isolationist feelings still were.

for comparisons sake, we entered WW1 in April 1917. It would not be until 1918 that American troops began arriving in France fully trained and in sufficient numbers to make an impact.
 
It's why we need to target the oligarchs and their families.

Don't care if it's 5-yr old oligarch children. Load them up on planes and fly them into the cities Putin is targeting.

Start with the Big Names. When the other guys figure they and their families are next, they will figure out how to "off" Putin.

Putin is killing hundreds of children right now, in Ukraine. A handful of oligarch children is a small sacrifice to bring this to a quicker end. Eff them all.

So, we're no better than Putin?
 
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Japan's success in the invasion of China was linked to them sending their troops with little/no food. They had to take it to survive. Not saying it's the same but just sayin..
Totally get it and think there is certainly some "burn the bridge behind you" going on here.
 
He doesn't get it

Because his "idols" are all Putin-lovers and he cannot break through the cognitive dissonance that they're the ones who created this mess.
A quick search through 3 pages of your recent post has you comparing 6 different entities to Hitler. If you want to continue the conversation in another thread we can work on finding you some new descriptors.
 
Japan's success in the invasion of China was linked to them sending their troops with little/no food. They had to take it to survive. Not saying it's the same but just sayin..

LOL, no

China had a 19th century army, compared with what Japan had.
Food had little to do with it.

Tack on the racial animosities of the Japanese believing their were the Master Race in Asia and you have the formula for atrocities.
 
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I think some of you are way, way ahead of yourselves after five days.

I don't think any options should be off the table, including a no fly zone. Russia doesn't get to just do whatever they want because they can scream "nukes!". It wasn't like that for 40 years of the Cold War (when the world was much more closely balanced on each side), and it's not like that now.

On the other hand...its been five days. War is hell and we haven't seen this kind of war for a long time, our whole lives for most of us, and we've NEVER seen it this up close. We're not, nor should we be, shooting down Russian planes in less than a week.

This is very likely going to take a while, and it's going to be horrifying. Ukraine is going to continue to receive weapons and supplies from the entire world. Russia has almost no support and they won't be able to keep this up indefinitely. We shouldn't be scared, but there's a long, long way to go before we need to engage directly.
 
A quick search through 3 pages of your recent post has you comparing 6 different entities to Hitler. If you want to continue the conversation in another thread we can work on finding you some new descriptors.
To "Hitler"? Or to "Nazis"?

You continue to ignore that what Putin is doing right now is EXACTLY how Hitler started.
Only your rightwing media in American is cheering Putin on. In the 1930s, western nations mostly ignored him rather than actively cheering.
 

@Joes Place @Whiskeydeltadeltatango please take your argument here.


@Joes Place @Whiskeydeltadeltatango please take your argument here.
I know you want to plug your thread and keep things tight today but keep your pants on.
 
Some people just like to hear themselves talk, no matter how silly they sound.

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You just said they WEREN'T a strategic target above.

NOW they ARE???
They are strategic in the minds of the Russians and for normal war however it would seem like Musk beat them to the punch is what I was saying. Like blowing up the enemies horses when they have access to vehicles.
 
To "Hitler"? Or to "Nazis"?

You continue to ignore that what Putin is doing right now is EXACTLY how Hitler started.
Only your rightwing media in American is cheering Putin on. In the 1930s, western nations mostly ignored him rather than actively cheering.
Do you want to further this in the other thread or let it fuxking go and maybe start finding words other than Hitler to describe what it is you are going for?
I'm not interesting in wrestling a pig in this thread.
 
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