If he and Lavrov are assassinated and thrown in a garbage dump, I'd have a bbq for all of IC/Coralville/CR HORT.
This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...
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Not possible. @SA_Hawk told me that since Trump isn't currently in office, there is no way he can influence House policy.House Speaker Mike Johnson is negotiating with White House to advance Ukraine aid
House Speaker Mike Johnson is negotiating with the White House as he prepares for the treacherous task of advancing wartime funding for Ukraine and Israel through the House
WASHINGTON -- House Speaker Mike Johnson is negotiating with the White House as he prepares for the treacherous task of advancing wartime funding for Ukraine and Israel through the House, a top House Republican said Thursday.
House Republican Leader Steve Scalise told reporters that Johnson had been talking with White House officials about a package that would deviate from the Senate’s $95 billion foreign security package and include several Republican demands. It comes after Johnson has delayed for months on advancing aid that would provide desperately needed ammunition and weaponry for Kyiv, trying to find the right time to advance a package that will be a painful political lift.
“There’s been no agreement reached,” Scalise said. “Obviously there would have to an agreement reached not just with the White House, but with our own members.”
Johnson, R-La., is being stretched between a Republican conference deeply divided in its support for Ukraine, as well as two presidential contenders at odds over the U.S.’s posture towards the rest of the world. President Joe Biden has repeatedly chastised Republicans for not helping Ukraine, saying they are doing the bidding of Russian President Vladimir Putin and hurting U.S. security. Meanwhile, Donald Trump, the presumptive Republican candidate, has said he would negotiate an end to the conflict as he tries to push the U.S. to a more isolationist stance.
The Republican speaker is set to travel to the former president’s Mar-a-Lago club in Florida on Friday to meet with Trump and has been consulting him in recent weeks on the Ukraine funding to gain his support — or at least prevent him from openly opposing the package.
House Speaker Mike Johnson is negotiating with White House to advance Ukraine aid
House Speaker Mike Johnson is negotiating with the White House as he prepares for the treacherous task of advancing wartime funding for Ukraine and Israel through the Houseabcnews.go.com
What drives me nuts, even as a lefty, this whole kumbaya make love not war stance is infuriating by some politicians. There is a time and place and right now is not. I get they have a base to pander too but do the damn job. Whether it’s the alt maga righties or the far leftists, western security and values is on the line in on Ukrainian front. Save the political bitching for a different Issue.
Neocons foster this mess, and then castigate Americans who didn’t want the mess for not wanting to clean it up.
Exhibit 1 of American ignorance
Agree. Wish support for Israel would be more resolute as well.
Except historically Israel is more than capable of defending itself from (almost literally) every major force in the region simultaneously.
Sometimes a clever response is too clever. Sounded like a self-important, sarcastic deflection, but maybe that wasn't your intention.
Sarcasm is the only thing you were able to discern. You said they are laughing all way to the bank, when they are giving planes to Ukraine which Ukrainian pilots actually know how to fly, in return for backfilling their donated planes with us planes. If we had those aircraft donated in the first place, we would have given them ourselves to Ukraine and not gotten in the plane swap game.*
*edited to note I was confused on which planes are being exchanged. I will let my erroneous info stay. Point is still the same, however.
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Smart people of my generation worried about nuclear war. With good cause.
What's changed?
Did nuclear war get safer when I wasn't looking? Or are today's smart people in need of some education on nuclear war?
We used nukes twice in WWII and got away with it. We had the only nukes. That's no longer true. Also, nobody cared about the Japanese, and nobody - except maybe Stalin - thought we were going to drop bombs on them.
India and Pakistan might have a nuclear exchange that would remain limited. But I hope they don't chance it.
Israel and Iran might have a limited nuclear exchange. Although since Iran probably still doesn't have nukes, that more likely to be a preemptive strike than a nuclear exchange.
Maybe, just maybe Russia could use a tactical nuke or 2 in Ukraine and the world might avoid overreacting. Or not. I don't like the odds.
I'm not thinking of any other situations that would stay limited once someone uses nukes.
The odds of us nuking Moscow and that remaining limited are too low, and the risks too great to act like that's something to be yearned for.
If Russia attacks a NATO ally forces in Ukraine = NOT a treaty issue
If Russia directly attacks a NATO ally's territory and/or bases = treaty invoked
Not that hard
Mike Johnson faces revolt by hard-right Republicans over Ukraine aid package
House speaker Mike Johnson returns to work on Monday facing mounting pressure to advance a Ukraine aid package as well as the threat of an intra-party revolt if he does so.
The Republican speaker has indicated the House will take up the issue of Ukraine funding this week, as the chamber reconvenes after a two-week recess. But many hard-right members of Johnson’s conference remain staunchly opposed to additional Ukraine aid, and one of them has already threatened to oust the speaker, complicating the potential timing of a floor vote.
As the House adjourned last month, Johnson vowed that the chamber would soon “take the necessary steps to address the supplemental funding request”, which includes money for Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan. The Senate passed a $95bn foreign aid package in February, but Johnson indicated that the House would consider an amended proposal when members return to Washington.
“We’ve been talking to all the members, especially now over the district work period,” Johnson told Fox News last Sunday. “When we return after this work period, we’ll be moving a product, but it’s going to, I think, have some important innovations.”
Those innovations might include sending money to Kyiv as a loan or redirecting Russian assets seized under the Rebuilding Economic Prosperity and Opportunity (Repo) for Ukrainians Act. But even those changes are unlikely to sway the most vocal Ukraine skeptics in the House Republican conference, such as congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia.
Before the House adjourned last month, Greene introduced a motion to remove Johnson as speaker in protest of the passage of a large government funding package, but she stopped short of forcing a vote on the matter. Speaking to CNN on Wednesday, Greene suggested she may soon push for a vote on Johnson’s ouster if he moves forward with a Ukraine aid bill.
“I’m not saying I have a red line or a trigger, and I’m not saying I don’t have a red line or trigger,” Greene said. “But I’m going to tell you right now: funding Ukraine is probably one of the most egregious things that he can do.”
Even as Johnson faces a challenge from the hard-right flank of his conference, other House Republicans insist the chamber must take action to assist Ukraine. They warn that further inaction, after months of ignoring the White House’s demands to approve more funding, will only embolden Russian president Vladimir Putin.
“We are at a critical juncture on the ground that is beginning to be able to impact not only morale of the Ukrainians that are fighting, but also their ability to fight,” congressman Mike Turner, the Republican chair of the House intelligence committee, told CBS News last Sunday. “Putin knows this. This is obviously an area where we cannot allow Putin to win.”
Johnson already has two legislative options to approve more money for Ukraine, the Senate-approved package and a smaller $66bn bill introduced by a bipartisan group of House members. The second proposal would provide military-only funding for Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan, omitting the $10bn for humanitarian aid included in the Senate bill. The House legislation also outlines a number of border security provisions, a bid to sway some Republican members who are otherwise wary of sending more money to Kyiv.
“I am hopeful that the speaker will put the bill on the floor or an amended version of the bill on the floor so that we can once and for all ensure that our allies have the aid and support that they need,” congressman Mike Lawler, a Republican of New York and one of the House bill’s co-sponsors, told CNN last Sunday.
Of course, most House Democrats would prefer to pass the Senate package, and they have attempted to bypass Johnson to force a vote on the measure. Last month, Democrats revealed a discharge petition, which would trigger a floor vote on the Senate bill if a majority of House members signed on to it. But the discharge petition remains dozens of signatures short of the necessary 218, so Democrats will probably have to work with Johnson to approve more Ukraine funding.
Johnson will similarly need the support of at least some Democrats to get any aid package across the finish line. The speaker is expected to introduce a Ukraine funding bill under a procedural mechanism known as suspension of the rules, meaning he will need the support of two-thirds of members for passage. Given House Republicans’ increasingly narrow majority and hard-right members’ opposition to Ukraine funding, Johnson cannot clear that high hurdle with only votes from his conference.
While Johnson weighs his options, the specter of the motion to vacate looms in the background. If Greene follows through on her threat to force a vote on Johnson’s removal, the House must take up the matter within two legislative days. Johnson will then need the support of a majority of members to keep his job, and because of a recent string of Republican resignations, he can only afford to lose two votes within his conference.
As of now, few Republicans appear eager to revisit the spectacle of last fall, when the conference’s repeated failures to elect a new speaker ground the House to a complete halt for weeks. Some centrist Democrats have already indicated they will not allow Greene to let the chamber descend into chaos, especially if she forces the motion to vacate vote over the issue of Ukraine funding.
“I do not support Speaker Johnson but I will never stand by and let [Greene] … take over the people’s House,” congressman Jared Moskowitz, a Democrat of Florida, posted to Twitter/X last month.
The House Democratic leader, Hakeem Jeffries, previously told the New York Times that he expected “a reasonable number” of his caucus members would come to Johnson’s assistance if his speakership was imperiled because of a vote on Ukraine aid. But one of the leading House progressives, congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York, has argued that Democrats’ support for Johnson should come with some legislative strings attached.
“My vote would most likely be for a Speaker Jeffries, which becomes an increasingly likely reality day after day as Republicans pursue further midterm resignations,” Ocasio-Cortez recently told CNN. “But I think, for those of us and for any Democrat inclined, I don’t think we do that for free.”
House Republicans appear all too aware of the threat of a Democratic speaker given their increasingly thin majority, and that possibility has made even some hard-right members wary of ousting Johnson. Congressman Matt Gaetz, a Republican of Florida who led the charge against former Republican speaker Kevin McCarthy last year, voiced hesitation about Greene’s motion.
“When I vacated the last [speaker], I made a promise to the country that we would not end up with a Democrat speaker,” Gaetz told reporters last month. “I couldn’t make that promise again today.”
With the House returning to session on Monday, Johnson will need to soon decide if he is willing to gamble his speakership on Ukraine funding. If he is not, the political costs could be severe – and the costs to Kyiv could be much higher.
Mike Johnson faces revolt by hard-right Republicans over Ukraine aid package
Some House members remain staunchly opposed to proposal and one of them has already threatened to oust the speakerwww.theguardian.com
You'd told us that Republicans would continue to support Ukraine and Ukraine aid.
Now you are posting that they don't.
Will you stop voting for any of them now?
The Kremlin is thinking over a peace plan Trump aides are floating if he wins in November. It's basically a Kremlin wish list, so my guess is they reject it and demand more, which Trump would immediately hand over. Trump is offering Crimea, the Donbas, and a pledge that Ukraine never joins a western alliance.
Trump has also turned down repeated invitations from Zelensky to visit Ukraine.
https://www.newsweek.com/putin-kremlin-donald-trump-ukraine-peace-plan-1889268
Trump has also turned down repeated invitations from Zelensky to visit Ukraine.
https://www.newsweek.com/putin-kremlin-donald-trump-ukraine-peace-plan-1889268
I remain skeptical that Putin has much money stashed in Switzerland as this article suggests, but the slow movement in Switzerland to honor sanctions against Russians, and to seize assets to pay reparations to Ukraine is very promising.
https://www.newsweek.com/putin-secret-fortune-risk-neutral-country-sanctions-switzerland-1889741
https://www.newsweek.com/putin-secret-fortune-risk-neutral-country-sanctions-switzerland-1889741
The MAGA faction of American will be on the wrong side of history. What an idiotic, short sighted, ignorant demographic.
Private citizens can’t introduce legislation or vote on a bill. He has as much influence on the house as you or myself. Nothing stopping you from calling Speaker Johnson to try and introduce legislation. Remember he works for us not the other way around.
Not sure if serious...
Late for tee time?
"Ukrainian strike in LuhanskThere appears to be a concentration of Russian armed forces equipment in the area of the Luhansk construction plant."
"Ukrainian strike in LuhanskThere appears to be a concentration of Russian armed forces equipment in the area of the Luhansk construction plant."
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