Except when you "wheel down" you're cutting off their supply lines, and attacking them from a direction they have zero fortifications in place.
But I'm sure you didn't think about that part...
This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...
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But I'm sure you didn't think about that part...
By doing so you’re moving into their artillery.
It’s their best card and you want to give them better opportunity to play it.
But I’m sure you didn’t think about that part…
One of the tweets today about Kursk did remind me of the old axiom of keeping your opponent guessing where you are going to or going to strike next. The horns of a dilemma as they say.
"Russian MLRS BM-21 Grad destroyed near the village of Semenovka, Donetsk region.The crew had no chance of survival."
"Russian MLRS BM-21 Grad destroyed near the village of Semenovka, Donetsk region.The crew had no chance of survival."
No; you're moving BEHIND their artillery.
And artillery w/o shells (when you've cut off supply lines) is scrap metal.
Wonder if Ukraine will eventually attack the north and south flanks of the Kursk salient where the Russian forces attempting to pinch in may be vulnerable.
I am pretty quick to block people these days, especially in this thread. I don't need an echo chamber but I don't need to suffer closed-minded idiots either. I am fairly certain it is the same person or a couple of people I block over and over again after they start with a new handle.
I used to, but if it’s a poster that I SMH at everyone of their posts, putting them on ignore removes the post altogether. On a long thread like this one, that I may not see for a day or two, it removes a lot of pro-Russian nonsense that I wouldn’t read anyway.
Thanks for reminding me you have no clue what you’re talking about.
Range for artillery is drawn with a circle.
The MTO Brigades are Russia's logistical support to bring supplies from rail hubs to the front ground forces. As highlighted in many papers over the years for a century and a half the Russian army is a railway army and in order to sustain deep operations, and offensive operations it relys of rail with last mile done by truck and is effectively limited to stay preferably within 45 mi of a rail line so that the MTO brigades can most effectively Ferry supplies to the front. Beyond that there is reduced capacity to move supplies.
The glaring issue with the eventual counter attack in Kursk in is that they will be operating at around 80 miles or more from a rail line at the current Ukrainian FLOT which logistically speaking for Russia is not ideal in staging and conducting a counter offensive because their supply lines will be stretched thin.
The second problem that Russia is going to run into while organizing and the response to counter the Ukrainians is deciding where to pull MTO assets in Ukraine from and relocate to Kursk leaving units in Ukraine short on logistical resupply assets making the The daily replenishment needed to sustain combat operations more difficult than it already is for the Russians that have had issues with properly supplying units across the front from strategic rail heads.
A MTO Brigades is committed to supporting 1 Combined Arms Army (CAA). Russia has a total of 11 of these MTO Brigades. Each MTO Brigade fields 2 truck battalions, each battalion comprising 408 transport vehicles composed of-148 general freight vehicles -260 specialized vehicles -48 trailers. Each Battalion can reportedly haul 1,870 tons of cargo (1190 tons of dry cargo, 680 tons of liquid).MTO Brigade serves a CAAMTO Battalion serves a DivisionMTO Companies serves Regiments and Brigades
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Not when you cut off their ammunition supplies, which has been explained to you 3 times now.
Ergo: All Ukraine has to do here is blow up all the rail lines so they cannot resupply
then, continue down the Russia/Ukraine border and Pac-Man up the Russians from the rear.
So long as Russia cannot resupply its troops, it will be powerless to do anything.
"More explosions in Voronezh, Russia. "The explosion is approaching Voronezh," the photographer says."
"Tanks captured from Russia in Kursk, we could make a thousand videos like they do."
Ukrainian tactics in Kursk according to Russian milblogger Two Majors.
He says that Ukraine knows the mixed nature of forces attempting to stop them and they're taking advantage of that. Small groups push into areas between Russian formations, make their presence known and wait to see how Russia responds.
If Russia sends in a large force, the Ukrainians withdraw or shift left or right to avoid a major confrontation and test out a new axis of advance.
However, if few or no Russian forces respond, they move a reserve element forward to further defend this new terrain. In essence, Ukraine is continuously probing for gaps. When they find one, they're exploited and we see forward progress by Ukrainian forces.
Two Majors says this is a problem as there are communications issues between Russian units so it's not always clear who is responding to the nearest threat and with what capabilities. This has allowed Ukraine to continue advancing even as more Russian forces deploy to Kursk.
Putin has named a former bodyguard to lead the clean up in Kursk. I take this to mean several colonels and generals are about to be arrested.
It’s nice to see FSB goons taking over military roles. This will lead to even worse morale, and even worse decisions.
www.newsweek.com
It’s nice to see FSB goons taking over military roles. This will lead to even worse morale, and even worse decisions.
Putin seeking to find out "how and why he was deceived" over Kursk: ISW
Russian president wants to know who is responsible for Ukraine catching Moscow off guard with incursion into Kursk on August 6.
www.newsweek.com
As Kyiv makes gains in Kursk, Russia strikes back in Donetsk
Ukraine captured a record 102 Russian soldiers in the Kursk region in one day on Wednesday.KYIV — Russia is evacuating another district in its Kursk region, the regional governor announced overnight, as Ukraine's forces continue to make gains in the area.
Ukrainian forces have secured their hold on Sudzha, the administrative center of the Sudzhansky district in Kursk, and advanced several kilometers further into Russian territory. Overnight, acting regional Governor Alexei Smirnov said in a Telegram statement that the Glushkovsky district in Kursk, which has a population of 20,000, was being evacuated.
Ukraine captured 102 Russian soldiers in the Kursk region on Wednesday — a record number for a single day, a high-ranking official from the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) who was granted anonymity to share the update, told POLITICO.
Kyiv has yet to reveal the total number of POWs it claims to have taken over the course of its more than weeklong incursion into Russian territory. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has said that capturing Russian troops was one of the key goals of the operation, in order to replenish what he refers to as the POW "exchange fund."
Ukraine's Human Rights Ombudsman Dmytro Lubinets said on Wednesday during a national fundraising telethon that while Russia has publicly ruled out prisoner exchanges, Moscow's ombudsman had suggested an informational discussion on the topic. “I hope this situation [in Kursk] will change their stance on blocking the POW exchange. At least now, they initiate talks,” Lubinets said.
Kyiv is now considering establishing military command offices in the Kursk region in order to evacuate civilians safely and allow humanitarian supplies through, Zelenskyy said during a meeting of the government on Wednesday afternoon.
Lubinets underscored that message, saying during the telethon that humanitarian corridors would allow international organizations to monitor the situation on the ground in Ukrainian-controlled parts of Russia. Kyiv's forces are already providing humanitarian aid to civilians in territories they control and act in accordance with international law, Lubinets added.
But while the successes of the surprise Kursk operation have boosted Kyiv's morale, Russian forces are striking back, capturing more territory around Ukraine's Donetsk region.
Since Ukraine launched the Kursk offensive, "I would say things have become worse in our part of the front," said Ivan Sekach, spokesperson of Ukraine's 110th Mechanized Brigade, which is currently deployed in the Pokrovsk district in the Donetsk region. "We have been getting even less ammo than before and Russians are pushing,” he told POLITICO.
Over the past 24 hours, Russia occupied the villages of Zhelanne and Orlivka and made advances in New York, Krasnohorivka, Mykolaivka and Zhuravka in Donetsk, according to an update posted by DeepState, a war mapping project close to Ukraine's defense ministry.
The General Staff of the Ukrainian Armed Forces did not confirm or deny the report, saying only that intense fighting was under way in those areas, and that Kyiv was concentrating its efforts on the city of Pokrovsk in the Donetsk region.
Russia also continued its air assault on Ukraine, launching three missiles and 29 drones from Kursk, as well as two other regions. Zelenskyy has said another key goal of the incursion into Russian territory is to create a buffer zone and prevent Moscow's forces from launching cross-border air attacks.
The Ukrainian Air Force reported shooting down all 29 kamikaze drones. One of the ballistic missiles hit the port of Odesa, wounding three people, the city's Governor Oleh Kiper said in a statement.
As Kyiv makes gains in Kursk, Russia strikes back in Donetsk
Ukraine captured a record 102 Russian soldiers in the Kursk region in one day on Wednesday.
www.politico.eu
Why Zelensky’s gambling it all on Kursk
Incursion into Russia may be short-lived but shows Ukraine is sick of the West’s restrictions
www.thetimes.com
He can't see through the tears as he mourns the lost Russian soldiers.
Interesting read.Why Zelensky’s gambling it all on Kursk
Incursion into Russia may be short-lived but shows Ukraine is sick of the West’s restrictions
No link, sorry, but I read a great story a few weeks ago, the Economist, I think, where they reported on the Ukrainian use of large networks of listening posts to track incoming drones and missiles. Many of them are parabolic dishes set up with a small solar panel to provide electricity, but in some areas those are too conspicuous, and things as small as cell phones are placed every 4-5 kilometers. Each one forms part of a web along the routes Russian missiles and drones use and they are sensitive enough to distinguish types of drones, and how heavily laden with explosives they are. From there they can guide their defensive responses.
Tremendous ingenuity once again being shown by the Ukrainians. Large radar networks just won't work for them, if they had them, so they go with what they have available.
Tremendous ingenuity once again being shown by the Ukrainians. Large radar networks just won't work for them, if they had them, so they go with what they have available.
Pretty interesting...
"Today at the Staff meeting, I received a report from Commander-in-Chief Syrskyi. Our key defense directions at the frontline: Toretsk, Pokrovsk, and others. These areas are currently facing the most intense Russian assaults and are receiving our utmost defensive attention. Priority supplies—everything that is needed—are being sent there.
Separately, the Commander-in-Chief reported on the operation in Kursk Oblast. There has been new progress. Our “exchange fund” has been further replenished. Additionally, General Syrskyi reported the successful liberation of the city of Sudzha from Russian forces. A Ukrainian military commandant's office is being established there. Several other settlements have also been liberated. In total, more than eighty.I extend my deepest gratitude to every one of our warriors who has made this possible."
Separately, the Commander-in-Chief reported on the operation in Kursk Oblast. There has been new progress. Our “exchange fund” has been further replenished. Additionally, General Syrskyi reported the successful liberation of the city of Sudzha from Russian forces. A Ukrainian military commandant's office is being established there. Several other settlements have also been liberated. In total, more than eighty.I extend my deepest gratitude to every one of our warriors who has made this possible."
Wonder if it was one of the attacks on the airfields.
