“shooting while maneuvering like this is way way harder than it looks”
Millions of thumbs twitch, instinctively.
This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...
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Hopefully they’re getting into this game at the downslope on the relative importance of oil as an energy component in the economy.
Anything reducing demand for the dollar internationally means the effects of our inflation will be more focused upon us.
I'm not a smarter military type, but before the invasion the Ukrainian army was mostly stocked with the same equipment as Russians because it was the Russians that sold it to them. So retrofitting may just require some spray paint to cover up the Z on the equipment if it is in working order otherwise.
But, if the Russians are smart they'd be doing something to render the equipment unusable before abandoning it. To fix stuff up you'd need parts, mechanics, and a place to do the repair work. All of which are likely in short supply right now.
We should nationalize the oil industry so we aren't beholden to the whims of international oil conglomerates....oh wait...
Agree. Don’t abandon the one until the other has been fully transitioned.
We can do it!
That's the difference between "Russian anti-tank stuff" and "Javelins/Stingers/NLAWS" the Ukrainians are using...
Crazy thing is, he’s doing it to mainly ethnic Russian areas. Of course we know this whole “protect ethnic Russians” thing is bullshit. Just find it ironic.
No I mean the Russian tanks destroyed in Ukraine by Ukrainians. There's been some destroyed tanks but the target in that video is reduced to a smoldering pile of steel.
That was my thought too. He is pulverizing civilian areas I thought he wanted to add to Russia.
Yes
And they're using US/UK weapons to incinerate them.
Russian do not have access to those same weapons to shoot at Ukrainian armor.
If they are still functional, the Ukrainians could use them, as long as they have access to the munitions (main gun rounds/machine gun rounds). Given that the Russians are just leaving their vehicles for no reason, I doubt they care enough to either disable them or place booby traps.
The thing I've wondered, and I don't know the design of the Russian tanks, is how the Ukrainians are towing them. What I mean, with an M1 or Bradley, to tow them, you have to disable or disconnect the final drive. I wonder if the Ukrainians are able to do that, or if they even have to. If they need to, but aren't, the tanks won't be able to be driven without repairs done.
I've been wondering the same damn thing. Krainians must be smart as all get out.
I don't think we are understanding one another. I was comparing and contrasting the damage apparently caused by Javelins in the video linked versus what we are typically seeing in Ukraine. The results look quite different.
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Just throw it in neutral brah
Does anyone know if these artillery pieces left behind are compatible with the marvelous footage shared a page or two ago where a drone was marking targets for laser guided artillery blowing the shit out of Russian targets in the forest? Or is this "dumb" artillery from another era?
I don't think we are understanding one another. I was comparing and contrasting the damage apparently caused by Javelins in the video linked versus what we are typically seeing in Ukraine. The results look quite different.
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THere are tanks in Ukraine that are reduced to rubble, too.
You're comparing a Javelin video to a Stinger or NLAW and they aren't the same.
That would be devastating to the US economy. The dollar being the currency for world trading is what allows us to spend trillions we do not have
Oh there are plenty of random turret separation pictures. I’d say 1/3rd of the tanks I’ve seen have gotten the Roland treatment.
Guessing there's a combination of things going on. Not all pictures of destroyed tanks are from Javelins. RPG-7s, NLAWs, AT4s, etc have been being used as well, along with a bunch of other munitions. Of those that have been hit with Javelins, I'm guessing many look like the videos you linked. Others might have hit differently, and while destroying the tank, doesn't have the wow factor.I don't think we are understanding one another. I was comparing and contrasting the damage apparently caused by Javelins in the video linked versus what we are typically seeing in Ukraine. The results look quite different.
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It would be more devastating for the Chinese economy. They need regular inflationary slack to keep the cost of the goods they produce down. If someone pegged the Yuan to oil, it’d become far more difficult to do that.
This is the Putin theory that we’re decadent and in a decline. The whole thing is nonsense. As a country, we’ve never been comfortable with preemptive wars, and when we meddled, we got burned.
The United States was slow to enter WW1 and WW2 for a reason. Once we’re in, though, you don’t want any part of us.
As I told Nat a month ago. F-ck around and find out.
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As then encroach into urban areas that are defended it will probably go up, but, you are right. We don't have any idea how their losses are occurring. I kept expecting to see a Molotov cocktail come flying at one of those trucks in the video posted yesterday.
You cannot purely separate things, or look at this from an American perspective. The Greens are much more organized, and prevalent in Germany. A move away from coal is what they wanted. Mothballing their nuclear plants was a mistake until more alternative power was in place. But, they made that choice. And, it is not simply the Greens, overall they are more attuned to environmental issues.
And how about the millions of younger Russkies who were born after 1990 and have never faced a hot war either? Tales of hunger and deprivation from grandparents seem unreal.
When I was in a BSB (Brigade Support BN), one of the big things we rehearsed and discussed was how to transition between offensive and sustainment operations. It has to be planned out, even if you don't know exactly when or where ahead of time. The requirements to maintain combat effectiveness (which the Russians haven't shown a great deal of) are quite different between the 2.
I can't speak on the Russian tanks, it may be that easy. I wish it was with M1s/Bradleys. Throwing into neutral just breaks really expensive stuff. A rebuilt M1 transmission is around $350k last I knew. And breaking the trans is best case scenario. If you're lucky, it doesn't take the engine. A new FUPP (full up power pack) is about $650k.
And yes, I know you were joking. I've actually made that comment myself. Just pointing out to anyone who thought "That might work"
