Something goes flying to the left, too.
This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...
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I have a comment. F*** Putin.
I mean…..it really is getting to be like 300 at this point.
This.
I totally agree. They have been trying to divide Western nations for years now.
Wasn't Brexit along those same lines?
Divide and conquer is their whole MO. Putin can never make his own situation better. He can only make other situations worse.
When I was contemplating the possible counterattack near Kiev, I wondered if that infamous traffic jam would help to screw up the Russians retreating, or at least their ability to maneuver.
FWIW in Manstein's book Lost Victories, he promoted letting the Russians exhaust themselves in attacks and then counter attacking. The idea was for the Germans to then withdraw to new defensive positions and defend again until the Russians were bled dry. (Simplified version.) I am hoping that the Russians up there are spent.
FWIW in Manstein's book Lost Victories, he promoted letting the Russians exhaust themselves in attacks and then counter attacking. The idea was for the Germans to then withdraw to new defensive positions and defend again until the Russians were bled dry. (Simplified version.) I am hoping that the Russians up there are spent.
Meh. If it got to the right places might burn something like wiring, won't destroy it I wouldn't think. US tanks have pretty good fire suppression systems in the driver's compartment, the turret and the engine compartment. Not sure what Russians have, though.
A truck however, could be taken out with one.
Well, if it was, it didn't work. Brexit has not visibly diminished the UK/EU cooperation in the Ukraine matter at all.
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There was an interesting Twitter thread posted here yesterday that surmised the Ukrainians purposely didn’t destroy that column because having it sit their paralyzed was a bigger strategic advantage. Interesting theory.
There was no need to destroy it. It was not an immediate threat.
Yep. Another factor I keep reading from military experts is the bogging them down, running out of supplies food and sleep and constant harassment has turned them into the walking dead. I think the large counter offensive you see now is due to the fact they are facing guys completely whipped, unable to fight or think clearly. I swear it’s closing in on a mass surrender in North and East. And then the ****ers in the south Ukraine at Mariupol and Odessa who seem to be extra barbaric are toast.
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Here’s an interesting thought. What if a NATO force made up solely of non-nuclear, European militaries (Poland, Czech Republic, Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia, Bulgaria, Croatia, Denmark, Belgium, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Italy, Spain, Norway, Portugal, Romania, Turkey, Luxembourg, Slovakia and Slovenia) intervened?
Then it would not be an escalation from the Western nuclear powers but rather Europeans cleaning up their own backyard conventionally.
Morbid, but maybe. Both objects appeared to have arms and legs.
Also, it looks like there was a puff from the tank just before impact, along the axis that the missile came from. The crew might have seen the crew as they fired on them, and had a chance to send some machine gun fire at them.
Ukraine seems to be ramping up for a counterattack north of Kiev.
That's not interesting, that is NATO intervening.
You can definitely see arms / legs on the SOB on the right at 10 seconds. Hope he was alive to question his decision making as he flew 1/4 mile
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Man, these poor souls are just along for a hell of a ride. Probably dead before becoming airborne.
A few months ago there was a thread on a high speed chase in LA where the rider of a motorcycle trying to evade the cops went airborne. He flew a ways and bounced a few times, but he never felt a thing. I doubt those guys did either.
NATO is NATO. We are NATO. I want no part of any war, nor should you. Only bad things can happen, you should know that living near the arsenal.
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I don’t watch them. I watched Finding Your Roots on PBS tonight. Watching House Hunters on HGTV at 10PM.
Maybe You can fill us in?
In the end your appeal is ruled on by Putin.
Will he see it the way you hope? Do what you hope in response?
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He’s brought in mercenaries, Chechens, Belarusians and Syrians.
The escalation was started by Russia.
Time for Europe to step up.
