Possibly but they could just challenge Ukraine's figures without going into so much detail.
This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...
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This excellent WSJ article should be a free link:
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A Ukrainian Town Deals Russia One of the War’s Most Decisive Routs
In the two-day battle of Voznesensk, local volunteers and the military repelled the invaders, who fled leaving behind armor and dead soldiers. ‘They had no orders for what to do if they are defeated.’
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U.S. cannot confirm Russian claim on hypersonic missiles -U.S. defense official
The United States cannot independently confirm or refute a Russian claim over the weekend that it fired hypersonic missiles at a Ukrainian target, but the use of such a weapon makes little sense from a military perspective and could be meant to send a message, a senior U.S. defense official said...
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The nationalist racists with a penchant for Nazi symbology are a real thing in Ukraine.
Articles like the one I just linked are being forgotten about to make it easier to sell a good guy / bad guy picture to the audience.
This year [2018], though, the $1.3 trillion omnibus spending bill signed into law last week stipulates that "none of the funds made available by this act may be used to provide arms, training or other assistance to the Azov Battalion." "White supremacy and neo-Nazism are unacceptable and have no place in our world," Rep. Ro Khanna (D-Calif.), an outspoken critic of providing lethal aid to Ukraine, said in a statement to The Hill on Tuesday. "I am very pleased that the recently passed omnibus prevents the U.S. from providing arms and training assistance to the neo-Nazi Azov Battalion fighting in Ukraine."
The United States has been aiding and training Ukrainian forces in their fight against Russian-backed separatists since 2014, and recently expanded that aid to include arms. The omnibus includes about $620.7 million in aid for Ukraine, including $420.7 million in State Department and foreign operations funds and $200 million in Pentagon funds.
The Azov Battalion was founded in 2014, and its first commander was Andriy Biletsky, who previously headed the neo-Nazi group Patriot of Ukraine. Several members of the militia, which has been integrated into the Ukrainian National Guard, are self-avowed neo-Nazis.
So basically 3 people, of which Putin is one and the other two hand picked by him. If they're on board, or 2/3 of them and the other's family is held at gunpoint, etc., all they have to do is convince those actual service members to do it. Service members who likely have no idea what the real situation is (our leader informed us the American's have launched a first strike! Fire now comrade!!!).
Not sounding great Bob.
So now you’re an expert on the inner workings of the Russian command structure 🤣
The military guys aren't "handpicked" by anyone but themselves. They are oligarch/gangsters like Putin himself, and go back to Soviet times. I see Russia's government as essentially bicameral, with Putin allowed to be the dictator as long as the military, led by Soigu, are happy with his performance.
I think it is a rather easy choice to let Ukraine have all the various anti-aircraft, rocket artillery and drone systems they want, as well as the Migs if they can sneak them over the border. That's just a slight degree more than what we're already giving them, and would actually be humanitarian as those weapons would enable Ukraine to protect its civilian population from long range and air bombardment.
I’m down with that. Give the Ukrainians damn near everything they want….minus direct military involvement.
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I bet the Russians weren't planning for WARRIOR MONKS!
I agree that they are handling it well and understand why direct military intervention was not/is not prudent. I trust the people making decisions have far more information than I do to determine if/when it is prudent.
There are going to be some rich building supers in Miami.
Spill the beans, roll the cabbage.
Bring those acehats to heel. Take their ill gotten gains and use it for the common good.
It's becoming more clear that Zelensky is willing to play a longer "game" and let Russia bleed out in Ukraine and economically.
He has to do what he can with what he has. Sure he would like to end this as soon as possible as his nation is being leveled and thousands more die the longer the war lasts.
If I remember correctly, when it came to dealing with the USSR, it was with a Soviet Premiere who answered to the Politburo. Not a one man show like Putin.
Khrushchev said “we will bury you “, but it was not his decision alone. Khrushchev, Brezhnev and Gorbachev never had the power of Stalin. Not sure just where Putin would stand in that regard.
He is taking very hard positions on territory and neutrality. Not the talk of a desperate man.
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“I find it hard to imagine Putin accepting a complete military defeat without him trying to use nuclear weapons first,” Kroenig said. “I think he sees limited nuclear use as more attractive than accepting defeat.”
So what is the solution here then, let him do whatever he wants wherever?
If this analysis is correct, then the US/NATO needs to seriously consider some type of special operation to take him out. You can’t let one man hold the entire goddamn planet hostage because if he loses, he starts using nuclear weapons. This is actually an argument FOR American/NATO action.
Gen Wesley Clark says UK has SAS in Ukraine. So maybe the rumor about US also being there aren't far fetched.
He also says supplies are not getting to Ukraine in a timely manner and they need the ammo and shells.
He also says supplies are not getting to Ukraine in a timely manner and they need the ammo and shells.
No it’s not…the exact opposite.
I do agree we’re kind of being held hostage….6,000 nukes give him that ability. It’s the reality of the situation
SIAP- I suppose they don't all have to be retirees.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/crack-team-sas-veterans-joining-26350789
A crack team of SAS veterans is joining Ukraine’s bloody fight against the Russian invasion, the Daily Mirror can reveal.
Retired UK special forces soldiers have volunteered for missions deep inside Ukraine to back up the country's defence.
It is believed ex-Paratroopers may at some point join the special forces teams in Ukraine, along with other UK military specialists.
The veterans, aged between 40 and 60, have had meetings to discuss signing up for the dangerous mission, backing up Ukrainians in combat.
Key to their operation is among them there are highly-trained snipers and experts in
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/crack-team-sas-veterans-joining-26350789
A crack team of SAS veterans is joining Ukraine’s bloody fight against the Russian invasion, the Daily Mirror can reveal.
Retired UK special forces soldiers have volunteered for missions deep inside Ukraine to back up the country's defence.
It is believed ex-Paratroopers may at some point join the special forces teams in Ukraine, along with other UK military specialists.
The veterans, aged between 40 and 60, have had meetings to discuss signing up for the dangerous mission, backing up Ukrainians in combat.
Key to their operation is among them there are highly-trained snipers and experts in
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Well shit. Might as well give him Alaska back then 🙄
You keep making this same argument - NO ONE is letting him do whatever he wants, whenever. JFC.
Passport application has been affirmed as expedited. In talks with Ukraine, have been granted stay in Poland hotel. Foreign Legion, friends
They gave me a list of things to bring. I'd be happy to take a HROT load of donations / supplies to Ukraine.
I would think one of you HROT rich could negotiate me taking supplies.
They gave me a list of things to bring. I'd be happy to take a HROT load of donations / supplies to Ukraine.
I would think one of you HROT rich could negotiate me taking supplies.
LOL. Good luck doing what Skynet and Thulsa Doom couldn’t.
I need a satelite phone to be correspondent. I ddn't want to kill anyone. If I can convince Russkies to surrender, than I will have accomplished something
Necro Mancer has some pretty pithy obituary comments on his TL.
Below says: "03/14/22 near the city of Izyum, Kharkov region. commander of a motorized rifle battalion, Major Dmitry Toptun, born in 1990 heroically destroyed an enemy anti-tank missile with his BMP".
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If I don’t see a stolen T-90 flying a Hawkeye flag, I’ll be disappointed.
Nah, I plan on shitting on a Russia flag in public.. Ukrainians love their swear words. F russian Air B&B
Do you speak Russian?
That would help.
What does your family think?
Maybe you should just do humanitarian work in Poland?
Send me flag. I already flew one in Baghdad. Iowa and Florida should adopt Ukraine as sister state
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