I HAVE to believe that if Pooty ordered up a nuke there are serious people in the Kremlin who would say no this has to stop now.
This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...
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Putin doesn't, for a second, think that the US and Old NATO will actually fight to defend New NATO which is why he will eventually attack some or all of those countries. He knows the same fear gripped people who have been appeasing him for years will fall to their knees once again.
I was sober when I initially posted my intentions.
Sorry if I misinterpreted your post
Article 5 needs to be enforced for all countries, large or small.
And someone please take out Putin.
And someone please take out Putin.
I’m just wondering how a guy who took the deaths during the pandemic so seriously can be so flippant about Nuclear weapons….boggles the mind. One detonated over major US city could equal that amount in a instant….
Well, he and some other posters have the real intel on Russian capabilities, unlike our government.
the kremlin was otherwise going to air his remarks unedited, surely.
Fair enough. My viewpoint is that there's no reason for us to take our treaty obligations any more seriously than ethical/moral obligations to respond to the current crisis. I don't think that there's evidence of a greater nuclear threat in either scenario, so I think that we should not rule out providing any type of military aid/action requested by Ukraine in its territory and/or airspace. The fact that a there is a nonzero possibility of a nuclear exchange should not be posed as in justifying action (or lack thereof) in Ukraine versus an attack on a NATO ally.
And that’s a fair point to which you’re entitled to. My problem is with our resident intel experts saying there’s no chance this escalates in a bad way or that there’s 0% chance Russian nukes work because there’s rampant corruption and a lot of their land equipment is shit.
I agree that such an assessment goes well beyond what we, and perhaps even our intelligence community, can possibly know. I think that the only thing we can say with regard to Russian nuclear weapons is, based on the general state of their military compared to even a few weeks ago, it seems less likely that their nuclear arsenal has been well maintained than I would have previously thought. Even so, there would be an enormous difference between a 0% and even 1% level of Russian nuclear readiness.
I would rather hear someone say what they feel than some bull shit jumbo. The fact Putie is a butcher and baby killer should be said loud and often by everyone, and heard in Moscow and all of Russia.
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Notice which posters it tends to be - the permanently aggrieved and frightened.
I think we should call Putin's bluff but I'm in the minority on that.
As much as Russia wants to make this a civil war, Ukraine knows it is a fight for life and death and their freedom. What army is afraid of the other army and goes after hospitals, schools, churches, kids and old people, RUSSIA and Putie. And it must be told to the world.
Nope, just imo. Biden and myself want it heard in the Kremlin.
Then eventually you'll get the war you want.
In the meantime, his army is getting torn to pieces and we're learning more about the next army to build to make our gap with the Russians even larger than it already is.
Former commanding general of US Army Europe
We’re not going to pull sanctions until Putin’s gone, so what’s wrong with saying that’s what we’ll need?
Excellent thread on Ukraine's use of drones and evasion of Russian defenses.
I think one would be enough, but I doubt they can put one at sea at any time, and that probably is riddled with problems.
