Nor is sending a peacekeeping force to secure Western UKR so the UKR army can focus on clearing the east and south east.
This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...
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Nor is sending a peacekeeping force to secure Western UKR so the UKR army can focus on clearing the east and south east.
Was it a free and fair election? Is it clear that Orban's party won?
If so, I don't see the point about a dictatorship.
Where are the Americans claiming Putin is "a genius" and "rooting for Russia"?
We all know who they are...
Last I heard none of the Russian Generals were taking calls from the US. Apparently in the past they have communicated back and forth on anything that could be misconstrued as a threat. With that communication not happening I think the US erred on the side of caution.
Seems Orban's party won 53% of the vote, but 65% - a supermajority - of the seats in parliament due to him having gerrymandered their voting maps. So yeah, a Wisconsin-style dictatorship.
I watched both, found them interesting. I may have misunderstood the role he said Khrushchev played in WW2, but I think he was down playing it. NK was in charge of carrying out Stalin’s orders in Stalingrad. Seems like he could be very cold and ruthless if he needed to.
I’m not sure Putin is more like either one of them. It seems to me that Castro and NK were motivated by communism and having power. Putin is a power person, but he is also motivated by money. I guess I really don’t know how to read the guy.
Viktor Orban, key Putin ally, calls Zelensky an 'opponent' after winning Hungary election
Hungary's authoritarian leader and longtime Russian ally, Viktor Orban, clinched a fourth consecutive term in power on Sunday, after a landslide election win that he touted as a rebuke of liberalism, the European Union and Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky.
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Look, nobody is saying we go balls deep and invade Russia. But, we have truly reached a point where we can’t let this mad man commit heinous acts and destabilize the world without at least stepping up and making it now impossible for him to take the 80 percent of Ukraine. **** that. And **** him. Time to fill with tanks and no fly zone over west Ukraine. The mother ****er has 10 percent of the 1600 active nukes he thinks he has actually working, further reduced by missile defense and misfires. If he uses them, he always was going to use them. The entire world can’t watch monster commit war crimes under stupid threats.
People will be voting for that here, after ignoring what a lot of us have been telling them. The sad part is, most don’t even care. If Trump was President for the next 12 years, followed by Ivanka, with no opportunity for Dems to win…all good.
A former prisoner who was at one time the richest man in Russia explains that Putin only respects force. Weakness that typifies the usual western responses to his acts of aggression and war only enable him.
And it’s time to stop cowering. Again, if Putin is going to escalate to nukes, he’s going to do it regardless. But he’s not. Time to shore west Ukraine and resupply and they will not be able to get his victory by May. The war crimes have change things
When the US backed the coup in Ukraine in 2014, do you think those same US agencies and the State Dept behind it foresaw that Putin would react by escalating and seizing Crimea and moving his military into Ukraine to counterattack the Ukrainian military and throw an umbrella over his proxy separatists?
Because I think they miscalculated. I don’t think they’re so clever they goaded Putin into actively moving against Ukraine.
I think he miscalculated his own power and the response to it in this new phase of the war in Ukraine.
I don’t get how some people are so indifferent to the potential (and promised) costs associated with escalating this war.
Hungary needs to be kicked to the curb, like yesterday.Viktor Orban, key Putin ally, calls Zelensky an 'opponent' after winning Hungary election
Hungary's authoritarian leader and longtime Russian ally, Viktor Orban, clinched a fourth consecutive term in power on Sunday, after a landslide election win that he touted as a rebuke of liberalism, the European Union and Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky.
I get it; we are to blame. We didn't start this war but it is our fault. How dare we even consider standing up to this mass murderer. History has clearly shown us that appeasement is the best course when dealing with Russia and madmen like Putin.
Natty light! We were getting worried about you.
How could he have been? He cut off any discussion about the most important issue currently facing us so by bringing up a manufactured right wing grievance. I bet he watches the polling every day for the green light to openly support Putin. Him and likely every other elected republican.
At the end of this video, he makes clear that if Putin achieves some level of victory in Ukraine, that attacks on the Baltic NATO states would be next. Putin isn't going to be stopped until we stop him. He also said that Putin, in his mind, is already at war with the US and NATO and has been for several years. We aren't going to be able to appease our way out of this or otherwise wish this problem away.
All in favor of Nato and the EU trading Hungary's membership for Ukraine's say Aye.
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“Antonov claims that Ukrainian forces launched artillery fire on Bucha following the withdrawal of Russian forces”
Those must be some truly smart bombs … considering the people died handcuffed with bullets to the head.
The damage control Russia is trying to do by getting the UN Security Council to meet tomorrow tells me that Russia knows it f'd up and fears some real repercussions from their war crimes
