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This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...

Just reading some of the supposed stuff about Bucha. it’s seriously horrifying. Russia can never be allowed back from this….even if Putin is out of power. This is on their soldiers and people too.


Russia should be isolated from the rest of the world until the end of time as far as I’m concerned
 
Just reading some of the supposed stuff about Bucha. it’s seriously horrifying. Russia can never be allowed back from this….even if Putin is out of power. This is on their soldiers and people too.


Russia should be isolated from the rest of the world until the end of time as far as I’m concerned
I don’t think there is anything supposed about it. And they say Bucha is/was not a one off. Just terrible.
 
Just reading some of the supposed stuff about Bucha. it’s seriously horrifying. Russia can never be allowed back from this….even if Putin is out of power. This is on their soldiers and people too.


Russia should be isolated from the rest of the world until the end of time as far as I’m concerned
Knock their asses back to the 12th century.
 
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I haven't found a link yet, but 60 minutes was pretty tough to watch tonight about Ukraine.

It is time for NATO or UN to move in
They concentrated on the action around Mariupol, and the Russian tactic of going after hospitals. It was tough to watch. Maybe Facebook videos and TikTok videos are too short. They impact, but a full block on a well run show like 60 Minutes is impactful.
 
Russia has almost 13,000 tanks with the crews and equipment are all expendable in Putins eyes.
Not true. Folks now realize over half of those are non maintained and inoperable at moment. The estimates are 2500-5000 operable tanks. Which is why you saw a tank commander kill himself after so many of his tanks failed. One reportedly had no engine.
 
Russia has almost 13,000 tanks with the crews and equipment are all expendable in Putins eyes.
Other than he can’t leave Russia vulnerable elsewhere and the equipment must work or be effective. But yeah, it seems like he has thousands more to “spend” in Ukraine.
 
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When the US backed the coup in Ukraine in 2014, do you think those same US agencies and the State Dept behind it foresaw that Putin would react by escalating and seizing Crimea and moving his military into Ukraine to counterattack the Ukrainian military and throw an umbrella over his proxy separatists?
Because I think they miscalculated. I don’t think they’re so clever they goaded Putin into actively moving against Ukraine.
I think he miscalculated his own power and the response to it in this new phase of the war in Ukraine.
I don’t get how some people are so indifferent to the potential (and promised) costs associated with escalating this war.
...because the world should sit back while Putin installs puppet governments and attacks democracies with Troll Farms, misinformation campaigns and bribes from his oligarchs and do nothing, right?
 

depressing. Early on I thought the Russians citizens would force putins hand. In particular I thought young Russians would have better access to information. Videos can’t speak for a nation but the definitely don’t give much hope that this conflict will end soon. More importantly and depressing is the genera attitude towards ukraine. This is thinking from generations ago, or at least I thought it was.
 
...because the world should sit back while Putin installs puppet governments and attacks democracies with Troll Farms, misinformation campaigns and bribes from his oligarchs and do nothing, right?
I honestly think the days of "doing nothing" are over. It's going to be interesting to see how we deal with a pariah state with a ton of nukes....not a great situation for the foreseeable future...

They'll probably end up a Chinese vassal state if they aren't already.
 
depressing. Early on I thought the Russians citizens would force putins hand. In particular I thought young Russians would have better access to information. Videos can’t speak for a nation but the definitely don’t give much hope that this conflict will end soon. More importantly and depressing is the genera attitude towards ukraine. This is thinking from generations ago, or at least I thought it was.

We have American kids just as brainwashed as these Russians. Mainly by out-of-touch parents.

The Affluenza will subside once sanctions hit their lifestyles in Moscow.
 
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