This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...
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I don't know if his claim is true or not but Russia still has enough nukes to destroy the world many times over, so does it really matter. The paradox here is if Ukraine does end up "winning" the risk of nuclear goes up substantially.
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"Hlukhiv or Glukhov is a small historic town on the Esman River. It is a city of regional significance in the Sumy region of Ukraine, just south of the Russian border. Hlukhiv is administratively incorporated as a city of oblast significance. Hlukhiv Municipality includes Hlukhiv and the village of Sliporod." Wikipedia
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you're an odd sort of poster
Every time I see the vids of a drone dropping stuff, it just looks like rats running from something as the Russian soldiers look for cover.
Love that shit.
Love that shit.
US military hackers have conducted offensive operations in support of Ukraine, the head of US Cyber Command has told Sky News.
Speaking in Tallinn, Estonia, the general, who is also director of the National Security Agency (NSA), told Sky News that he is concerned "every single day" about the risk of a Russian cyber attack targeting the US and said that the hunt forward activities were an effective way of protecting both America as well as allies.
General Nakasone confirmed for the first time that the US was conducting offensive hacking operations in support of Ukraine in response to the Russian invasion.
He told Sky News: "We've conducted a series of operations across the full spectrum; offensive, defensive, [and] information operations."
The four star general did not detail the activities, but explained how they were lawful, conducted with complete civilian oversight of the military and through policy decided at the Department of Defence.
"My job is to provide a series of options to the secretary of defence and the president, and so that's what I do," he said. He declined to describe those options."
https://news.sky.com/story/us-milit...f-ukraine-says-head-of-cyber-command-12625139
Speaking in Tallinn, Estonia, the general, who is also director of the National Security Agency (NSA), told Sky News that he is concerned "every single day" about the risk of a Russian cyber attack targeting the US and said that the hunt forward activities were an effective way of protecting both America as well as allies.
General Nakasone confirmed for the first time that the US was conducting offensive hacking operations in support of Ukraine in response to the Russian invasion.
He told Sky News: "We've conducted a series of operations across the full spectrum; offensive, defensive, [and] information operations."
The four star general did not detail the activities, but explained how they were lawful, conducted with complete civilian oversight of the military and through policy decided at the Department of Defence.
"My job is to provide a series of options to the secretary of defence and the president, and so that's what I do," he said. He declined to describe those options."
https://news.sky.com/story/us-milit...f-ukraine-says-head-of-cyber-command-12625139
Let us know when you can smell the salt air
(God willing...)
(God willing...)
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I can only hope his funeral goes like
Putin learned long ago, that the Soft Underbelly of Democracy and Capitalism was politicians grubbing for money to cement their places in power.
The German parliament passed a resolution in April to deliver heavy weaponry to Ukraine, but Scholz has yet to send anything but promises and mixed signals. The defense ministry says it will deliver 15 anti-aircraft tanks by the end of July and another 15 by the end of August. Trouble is, the Germans have very little ammunition for the tanks, known as Gepards, which the Bundeswehr phased out more than a decade ago.
The irony is that Ukraine didn’t even ask for Gepards, which are of limited use in its current struggle to push Russia out of the country. What it did ask to buy from Germany are so-called Marder infantry fighting vehicles, tanks used to shuttle troops on the battlefield.
Ukraine made a request to acquire the decommissioned tanks, which requires government approval, with Rheinmetall, the German defense contractor, on March 24, according to documentation seen by POLITICO.
On April 14, Rheinmetall offered to sell Ukraine up to 100 refurbished Marders and 1.5 million rounds of ammunition for €153 million, according to the documents. It said the first batch could be ready “within a few weeks.”
Six weeks later, as the Russians push ever further into Ukraine’s Donbas region, Berlin has yet to green-light the sale.
Instead, Scholz announced a tank swap deal with Greece on Tuesday under which Marder tanks get sent to Athens, while the Greek military in return sends its very old Soviet-era BMP-1 infantry fighting vehicles to Ukraine. There’s no indication that Kyiv would get any of the more modern Marder vehicles any time soon.
There’s no question that Germany has made a significant contribution to Ukraine, both in terms of financial and humanitarian aid. Yet there’s also no question that as Europe’s richest country and preeminent political force, it should be doing much more to help Kyiv defend itself. That’s particularly true considering that Germany’s soft approach to Putin over the years contributed to the current crisis by signaling that he would face few consequences by moving on Ukraine.
Scholz’s approach is not only damaging to Ukraine, it also is undermining Germany’s already tenuous standing within the NATO alliance.
That’s why the German chancellor would do well to focus less on the troubled record of Kaiser Wilhelm and more on the legacy of World War II.
In the summer of 1941, German troops swept across the Eurasian steppe, carving a deep scar of destruction in Ukraine that turned Europe’s breadbasket into what historian Timothy Snyder memorably dubbed “bloodlands.”
As Ukraine bleeds anew, Scholz’s Germany stands to be remembered for doing exactly what it has pledged in the decades since its “liberation” from the Nazis it wouldn’t: nothing. "
https://www.politico.eu/article/olaf-scholz-kaiser-complex-ukraine-lurch/
The irony is that Ukraine didn’t even ask for Gepards, which are of limited use in its current struggle to push Russia out of the country. What it did ask to buy from Germany are so-called Marder infantry fighting vehicles, tanks used to shuttle troops on the battlefield.
Ukraine made a request to acquire the decommissioned tanks, which requires government approval, with Rheinmetall, the German defense contractor, on March 24, according to documentation seen by POLITICO.
On April 14, Rheinmetall offered to sell Ukraine up to 100 refurbished Marders and 1.5 million rounds of ammunition for €153 million, according to the documents. It said the first batch could be ready “within a few weeks.”
Six weeks later, as the Russians push ever further into Ukraine’s Donbas region, Berlin has yet to green-light the sale.
Instead, Scholz announced a tank swap deal with Greece on Tuesday under which Marder tanks get sent to Athens, while the Greek military in return sends its very old Soviet-era BMP-1 infantry fighting vehicles to Ukraine. There’s no indication that Kyiv would get any of the more modern Marder vehicles any time soon.
There’s no question that Germany has made a significant contribution to Ukraine, both in terms of financial and humanitarian aid. Yet there’s also no question that as Europe’s richest country and preeminent political force, it should be doing much more to help Kyiv defend itself. That’s particularly true considering that Germany’s soft approach to Putin over the years contributed to the current crisis by signaling that he would face few consequences by moving on Ukraine.
Scholz’s approach is not only damaging to Ukraine, it also is undermining Germany’s already tenuous standing within the NATO alliance.
That’s why the German chancellor would do well to focus less on the troubled record of Kaiser Wilhelm and more on the legacy of World War II.
In the summer of 1941, German troops swept across the Eurasian steppe, carving a deep scar of destruction in Ukraine that turned Europe’s breadbasket into what historian Timothy Snyder memorably dubbed “bloodlands.”
As Ukraine bleeds anew, Scholz’s Germany stands to be remembered for doing exactly what it has pledged in the decades since its “liberation” from the Nazis it wouldn’t: nothing. "
https://www.politico.eu/article/olaf-scholz-kaiser-complex-ukraine-lurch/
Nope. I never said at any cost. The costs are way too high now, higher than they need to be. This likely could have ended before it started by agreeing to neutrality and no Nato or following the Minsk agreements. This was at least partially triggered by the US-Ukraine Joint partnership in September. Now some combination of no Nato, neutrality and sanction reduction might work. There are different combinations that might work. Maybe put the Donbas to a vote of residents administered by the UN. Russia could pay for rebuilding Ukraine, starting with their reserve fund.
Nope.
Pure Russian propaganda/talking points. Putin wanted all the wealth within Ukraine, along with full control over all the Ukrainian ports. Nothing at all to do with NATO or "threats" to Russia. All about expanding his oligarchy with more sources of cronyism and income sources.
The Donbas is a pretty poor region, certainly not worth it. I would argue the entire 1st phase was just an extension of the negotiations for them.
Also, Putin hates the oligarchs. He cares about as much about the oligarchs as Biden cares about Jeff Bezos. He views them more as a necessary evil but he has no problem having the state take over those resources. It wouldn’t have been a political winner for him before.
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Sure. I know Putin is going to take over the world, but he can't even take over Ukraine. Which is it?
No. Putin relies on the oligarchs. They are his right-hand men.
WOW
We have hundreds of these, they should be getting enough to spread to all the fronts, not just 4. IMHO
We have hundreds of these, they should be getting enough to spread to all the fronts, not just 4. IMHO
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Pretty sure they mean after they get to Europe but still, good luck with that.
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Given their performance in Ukraine, I'd give Rhode Island a 65% chance of defeating Russia alone.
What are you talking about and why are you under the impression those are the only two options?
"T-64BV burning during the Battle of Rubizhne after being hit by the Ukrainian National Guard."
https://english.nv.ua/nation/ukrain...d-activating-the-enemy-says-mod-50246921.html
"The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine does not report on Ukrainian successes during counteroffensives until Ukrainian military personnel fully gain a foothold in their new positions, so as not to activate the enemy, Ukraine’s Deputy Defense Minister Hanna Maliar said on Ukrainian television on June 1.
According to her, the situation at the front is unstable, and until the Ukrainian military gains a foothold at a certain line, the situation may change several times.
The premature announcement of this sort of information usually activates the enemy,” she said.
"Therefore, we have areas where the enemy is advancing, and we are strongly resisting, and there are areas where we are carrying out a counteroffensive and have some success.”
On May 19, the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Valeriy Zaluzhnyi, said that Ukraine was able to deprive Russia of its strategic initiative, due to a number of successful counteroffensive actions."
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