This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...
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Yes it is. The people who live in eastern Ukraine are Russians or identify with Russians and speak Russian. That's why Yanukovych had like 90% support in eastern Ukraine when he was elected and then he got ousted in the coup. It was lliterally 90% for his opponent in western Ukraine. It's like Trump vs Biden on steroids.
Also, in 2019 they passed a law that all government workers weren't allowed to speak Russian, further infuriating half the country that doesn't speak Ukrainian. Zelensky, the president elect at the time, opposed the law but he later had anti-Russian laws of his own.
Ukraine passes language law, irritating president-elect and Russia
Ukraine's parliament approved a law on Thursday that grants special status to the Ukrainian language and makes it mandatory for public sector workers, a move Russia described as divisive and said discriminated against Russian-speakers.
www.reuters.com
For perspective, even the most howlin’-MAGA counties in the panhandle of FL didn’t vote over 80% and 90% Trump.
The pre-existing political bifurcation of Ukraine is evident in presidential election maps:
They would be happy to kill everyone there, and then start fresh by repopulating the whole area. F whoever is there now.
CNN story about the introduction of HIMARS and M777 systems, with more on the way. It's an in general piece, but worth a read. It gives insight into how the Ukrainians are using them mostly at night, which might be to keep them from being victims of counter fire, but might also be a bit of psychology. I think they want to show the Russians they own the night. There is also good insight about how the Russian army is very dependent on manpower to move and disperse munitions, and the clustering of munitions by the Russians has been a failure. Is that by doctrine, or the inability to move and disperse?
It has been impressive how the Ukrainians are using the new weapons in such a controlled fashion. Hitting command centers, and logistical hubs.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/14/europe/ukraine-western-weapons-russia-front-lines-intl-cmd/index.html
It has been impressive how the Ukrainians are using the new weapons in such a controlled fashion. Hitting command centers, and logistical hubs.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/14/europe/ukraine-western-weapons-russia-front-lines-intl-cmd/index.html
Unlike the numpties in panhandle, they won’t make that mistake twice after what was done to them these last 4 months. Being made canon fodder has a way of changing things.For perspective, even the most howlin’-MAGA counties in the panhandle of FL didn’t vote over 80% and 90% Trump.
The pre-existing political bifurcation of Ukraine is evident in presidential election maps:
So, you're acknowledging that "kicking the can down the road" isn't a workable solution here.
Which means get MORE Western engagement to upend Russian aggression now. Not later.
This is why I want Ukraine to have the ATACMS that can reach Moscow. Russia is getting away with Genocide. Is there ever going to be a time to hold Putin accountable....not until he is dead. There is no way he is going to allow himself to be tried and punished.
If striking Russia forces them to go to extremes and forcing NATO to get in the war, I am for it. I served once, I would do it again.
If striking Russia forces them to go to extremes and forcing NATO to get in the war, I am for it. I served once, I would do it again.
Boo hiss.Yes it is. The people who live in eastern Ukraine are Russians or identify with Russians and speak Russian. That's why Yanukovych had like 90% support in eastern Ukraine when he was elected and then he got ousted in the coup. It was lliterally 90% for his opponent in western Ukraine. It's like Trump vs Biden on steroids.
Also, in 2019 they passed a law that all government workers weren't allowed to speak Russian, further infuriating half the country that doesn't speak Ukrainian. Zelensky, the president elect at the time, opposed the law but he later had anti-Russian laws of his own.
Ukraine passes language law, irritating president-elect and Russia
Ukraine's parliament approved a law on Thursday that grants special status to the Ukrainian language and makes it mandatory for public sector workers, a move Russia described as divisive and said discriminated against Russian-speakers.
You full of bunk. Russky you are. Piss off.Yes it is. The people who live in eastern Ukraine are Russians or identify with Russians and speak Russian. That's why Yanukovych had like 90% support in eastern Ukraine when he was elected and then he got ousted in the coup. It was lliterally 90% for his opponent in western Ukraine. It's like Trump vs Biden on steroids.
Also, in 2019 they passed a law that all government workers weren't allowed to speak Russian, further infuriating half the country that doesn't speak Ukrainian. Zelensky, the president elect at the time, opposed the law but he later had anti-Russian laws of his own.
Ukraine passes language law, irritating president-elect and Russia
Ukraine's parliament approved a law on Thursday that grants special status to the Ukrainian language and makes it mandatory for public sector workers, a move Russia described as divisive and said discriminated against Russian-speakers.
This poster is a bad agent. Russky. Ban his skit.Yes it is. The people who live in eastern Ukraine are Russians or identify with Russians and speak Russian. That's why Yanukovych had like 90% support in eastern Ukraine when he was elected and then he got ousted in the coup. It was lliterally 90% for his opponent in western Ukraine. It's like Trump vs Biden on steroids.
Also, in 2019 they passed a law that all government workers weren't allowed to speak Russian, further infuriating half the country that doesn't speak Ukrainian. Zelensky, the president elect at the time, opposed the law but he later had anti-Russian laws of his own.
Ukraine passes language law, irritating president-elect and Russia
Ukraine's parliament approved a law on Thursday that grants special status to the Ukrainian language and makes it mandatory for public sector workers, a move Russia described as divisive and said discriminated against Russian-speakers.
hwk23 is no bueno.
What is the crazy part?
Russia is committing war crimes daily.
Deny it if you will.
Russia is committing war crimes daily.
Deny it if you will.
russia is committing war crimes daily.
Deny it if you will.
There’s a reason NATO/US have been avoiding direct conflict with Russia.
Russia has nukes. Striking Moscow and NATO getting involved kind of ratchets up that possibility.
Beat their ass in every way possible on the field of war.
Beat their ass in every way possible on the field of war.
The rascists are bombing innocents.
What would you say if your family was bombed?
Shut up about nukes.
Who's saying anything about "striking Moscow"?
Erase the forces they have in Ukraine, and erase any site that set off ordnance from within Russian territory. Erase the bridge to Crimea and send all the Russians back to Russia.
Tell that to the administration.
If it wasn’t for Russia’s nukes NATO at the very least declares a no fly zone. Sinks every Russian ship in the Black Sea to open up Ukrainian ports for grain shipments….maybe go all in and provide air support for Ukrainian ground troops.
Why haven’t they? Nukes….
Reality is a bitch sometimes….Ukraine isn’t worth risking Nuclear Armageddon over….that’s been the Administration’s calculation from the start and they’re correct.
The post I replied to suggested striking Moscow and NATO involvement
So, beat their ass in every way possible on the field of battle. Scramble their ass.
Force the rascists off of the field of battle.
Destroy the bridge across the Smerch strait.
Destroy bridges in Luhansk as the rascists are moving equipment. Twice the price.
Target Sevastopol. Destroy their shit.
My hope is that this apparent escalation will not play well with important people in Russia. Probably just wishful thinking.
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