Yeah it really doesn't matter. His statement about carbon fiber failing over time compared to steel is very interesting. This sub should have never been in the water with humans.
Titanic tourist sub goes missing
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Yeah it really doesn't matter. His statement about carbon fiber failing over time compared to steel is very interesting. This sub should have never been in the water with humans.
I am guessing if he said that (I didn't catch it) that he ment 3500 meters which would also be around the depth previously reported.
They had hope and had to get the rov’s into place to confirm you knob
Just like with banging sounds you can't be sure that is what it is until you find and confirm.
Would you want the doctor to actually take steps to confirm you are dead or just look at you and say "he looks dead" only for you to wake up in your coffin 6 feet under?
Which was another failure if you watch the Cameron/Ballard video. They should have had a ROV already there on the ship at all times to check things out if they got caught in nets on the way down, and of course for the event where this all happened.
The Navy gave the time of the implosion to the Coast Guard. The Coast Guard determined that the submersible was at or near the bottom when it imploded. That’s how they knew where to look.
From the WSJ article.
This is what I'd posted several pages ago: CF can be very unpredictable with respect to cyclic stresses.
And regular monitoring/testing would be required - this thread implies they had a system set up for this, but it does not appear they formally "tested" it, as in "sending their sub up/down" a dozen times and using that system to establish it was sensitive enough to warn of potential failure.
They basically had a "theoretical" method for detecting hull weakening, not a proven method.
Getting a patent on something is one thing; actually implementing it in engineering practice (particularly with respect to cyclic stresses) is an entirely different step. Cycle-testing to failure (i.e. reliability testing) is an entire engineering and statistics field.
The vessel was never properly tested or classed. Criminally tragic, IMO.
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James Cameron had a lengthy interview on Thursday evening and absolutely ripped Stockton Rush for skirting safety issues.
Sounds like this disaster wasn't an "if", but more a "when".
Hull breach didn't even give them time to use the no way out option installed in the sub.
Jesus. I probably do more research when I'm buying a TV than these billionaires did before jumping in a sub to go 2.5 miles under the ocean
I feel bad for the 19 year-old. He was rightly scared of the whole thing and was guilted into doing it because it was Father’s Day.
Josh Gates knew
deadline.com
‘Expedition: Unknown’ Host Josh Gates Says He Dove In Titanic Sub, But Decided Against Going Down Again To Film Because Craft “Did Not Perform Well”, Missing Sub
Josh Gates, the host of Discovery’s Expedition: Unknown, revealed today that he dove in the same sub that is now missing near the wreck of Titanic. Gates said that the prospect of getting foo…
deadline.com
The thing that get me about this whole situation is that if these billionaires were acquiring a 100MM company, they would have a team spend months going through things to make sure it's a smart investment. But when it comes to their personal safety, they didn't feel the need to do the same all while taking the word of a guy that fired anyone with a reasonable objection and used an off brand X Box controller to run the whole operation. Why not spend 100k for a team to go over the whole thing and assess the risk for you? I guess it was only their life and the life of a 19 year old son.
Don't even have to do that. Do all the research for that sub and then get an engineer with experience making these subs and ask them for their opinion on it.
What's crazy is that Hamish Harding had experience on submersibles like this previously so you would think some red flags would have been raised.
My understanding is that in the Pakistani culture, women are subservient.
Little to no influence.
Who would have thunk…4-Chan/8-Chan crazies finding a comfy home on Twitter.
I stand by my statement that it was a waste of resources. Billionaires are no more valuable than Smokin Joe selling a pyramid scheme when it comes to dumb decisions.
I'm not implying that I am happy that they died. Opposite. Why do people feel like they need to risk their lives doing stupid shit
I'm not implying that I am happy that they died. Opposite. Why do people feel like they need to risk their lives doing stupid shit
Part of me thinks it is sad that Stockton Rush isn't alive because he escapes the experience of being universally despised and not trusted by the entire world.
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I have heard unsubstantiated rumors that Hunter Biden’s laptop was on the Titan….Not saying they are true, but really smart people on Twitter are talking about it. I don’t know, I just think we should all do our own research man….
I'm pretty sure he felt completely crushed.
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I can’t even fathom this outcome.
This entire story is classic fvck around and find out.
Very deep subject.
On a serious note, I tried to explain 6000 psi to my wife. Only way I could think of was to tell her that to exert that much pressure on guy 6 feet tall (apx 1000 square inches) you'd need a six million pound weight.
They probably thought that if the CEO is on board, surely it must be safe. So much for that thinking.
I read a quote from Stockton Rush addressing skeptics in regard to his carbon fiber hull. He brought up the classic "thinking outside of the box" argument. Well, his craft literally left him and four other outside of the box.
These guys lived.
You call them “ Idiots” “dumbasses”, etc.
“I spend my time on a sports site off topic message board. Boom!”
Look at yourself.
You call them “ Idiots” “dumbasses”, etc.
“I spend my time on a sports site off topic message board. Boom!”
Look at yourself.
They lived. I'm living. I prefer my status.
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