83% of statistics are wrong anyway.
To show just how important the 2023 recruiting class is and producing similarly at least every other year:
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Crazy uncle ironbird is off his meds again.
Holy hell what an embarrassing post. Every last Iowa wrestling fan should be mortified that your name will be associated with their wrestling facility. You continue to represent your university with the least class possible.
And you seem to forget which Big Ten program undeniably broke the rules and utilized more than their allotted scholarships during their long ago heyday.
Obviously this is an Iowa board and most guys here probably don’t want to upset someone who is willing to try to salvage a sunken ship, but I would hope that if money were no issue the collective group of normal posters on here would work to distance themselves as much as possible from the likes of you.
Anyway, I expect a few “no, YOU” type replies, as is customary here.
Welcome to the posters from out east who have joined the fray to defend the honor of their team.
It is interesting to see the ‘it’s not about the money’ approach. Just look at the pro athletes that claim ‘it’s not about the money’ usually it’s about the money. Your consistent denial and deflection on that subject is numerous. We can get into camp counselor money, huge nest egg, nlwc prospects for money, etc. It is reality and to claim otherwise is intellectually disingenuous.
But to me the other part that Iowa needs to figure out is how to get their wrestlers to the finish line like Carl does. Their ability to appear healthier at the end of the year on a consistent basis is big.
Iowa is pushing their chips into the center of the table, annual contributions are about equal for the clubs. Psu has a huge lead but hopefully the gap will narrow.
The other request would be for these posters to have some humility, acknowledge the advantages and remember that you are guests here. The mods let this board be a little more freewheeling then the psu forums. Just because they will let you be a jackwagon doesn’t mean it is required to be one.
It is interesting to see the ‘it’s not about the money’ approach. Just look at the pro athletes that claim ‘it’s not about the money’ usually it’s about the money. Your consistent denial and deflection on that subject is numerous. We can get into camp counselor money, huge nest egg, nlwc prospects for money, etc. It is reality and to claim otherwise is intellectually disingenuous.
But to me the other part that Iowa needs to figure out is how to get their wrestlers to the finish line like Carl does. Their ability to appear healthier at the end of the year on a consistent basis is big.
Iowa is pushing their chips into the center of the table, annual contributions are about equal for the clubs. Psu has a huge lead but hopefully the gap will narrow.
The other request would be for these posters to have some humility, acknowledge the advantages and remember that you are guests here. The mods let this board be a little more freewheeling then the psu forums. Just because they will let you be a jackwagon doesn’t mean it is required to be one.
Those guys leaving doesn't mean anything in the world of getting paid at PSU. Plenty of ways and sources for guys to get their money without staying at the club.
You and the other turds can respectfully piss off back to your own site. We don't need your point of view here. You are not changing anyone's opinions on anything, just clogging the board up with stupid bickering. The Mat board in now at Intermat not here, take the bickering over there.
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Embarrassing for Ped State I'd say. I had this directly told to me by Lubert himself over lunch with another PA booster. Would you like the date?
Class? Ped State has zero class. I've seen their BS up close since I was a kid.
Gable expansion of schollies in the day was nothing compared to the PSU slush fund. Are you not admitting what has gone on? If so, that's par for the course when it comes out of "Happy Valley". Keep living in your Alt Universe.
And BTW, I find it strange and laughable that so many Ped Staters come on this board. I've never once had the notion to go to yours. You guys must have low self esteem and a sore neck. The good news is that you'll soon be breathing our dust, but only for a short time, as the dust will settle by the time you jog by.
Some good points here, although again I most point out that there is zero evidence of any of the allegations of impropriety (athlete payments, steroids) this board loves to bandy about. Meanwhile it’s well documented that Gable cheated with regards to scholarships for several years (or “expanded” the scholarships, to borrow an unbelievably laughable phrase from bnicolls.)
But then there’s this garbage dump of a post. Again, it’s a testament to the power of the almighty dollar that people on here would tolerate such a consistently embarrassing attitude. There are some truly awesome posters on here, but thankfully the bad ones do a great job at outing themselves on a regular basis.
Inexplicably, the defense by these low quality posters is usually “well if you don’t like me pissing in my own pool, stop coming into my pool!” I mean, I guess there’s a point there, but how about just learning how to potty train oneself?
Some of us really enjoy wrestling and discussing it and enjoy/appreciate conversing with other fan bases besides just our own. I think the……substantial difference in attitudes/aptitudes between the PSU and Iowa board tends to throw some of us off at times.
“I only like to read from and communicate with people that hold the same opinions as me” is something I’ll never understand.
my toilet stinks, so i'm going to go crap around the corner, because i am disrespectful.
You're a pompous and pretentious fool.
I really can't help you. Better seek a strong therapist.
Nor will there be. If you don’t look you can’t see it.
Line items on a 990 form is an easy way to hide quite a few things. If you can honestly say that none of it is going on then we can agree to disagree.
Why isn’t Bonds in the HOF? No evidence that he cheated would be the defense used. Just allegations and physical changes but no evidence.
As far as Gable following direction from the B1G office? Guilty. If that is what you want to hang your hat on go for it.
Psu does some amazing things, the majority of the posters that come over here? They make it difficult to appreciate what is being done there.
As far as situations that embarrass a university can we agree that the situation that occurred at psu tops pretty much anything? A few scholarships for a few years pales in comparison. So maybe a little humility would help or heaven forbid go hang out with other people who think nothing is ever amiss in happy valley. There are plenty of deniers to join
You are mistaken if you believe I post to change the minds of certain posters. I simply post to set the record straight when I read disinformation. This is more for the benefit of those who read boards without ever creating an account. It takes two to "bicker," so...
I simply come to the board to read Iowa fans' takes on Iowa wrestling, since HR seems the best free venue for it. Maybe someday, I'll even join the Inner Circle. The vast majority of threads I simply read and occasionally react without posting. Seems reasonable to me.
If a thread contains a take on PSU, I simply try to present alternative explanations based on information of which I am aware.
Agreed. But what does what happened relating to football when I wasn't at University have to do with me as a PSU Alumni poster on a wrestling board?
You are not setting anything straight. Your opinion is no more valid than anyone else's. You're a turd troll that has nothing better to do than start crap on other team's board. The reality is PSU has no real competition most years and you get bored punching each other's clowns about how good you are so you come over here to start shit.
Obviously, I am not answering you to change your opinion. But I don’t come over here to "start shit." I respond to "shit" started by others.
Iowa fans posting on their own board is not starting shit. Don't come here and you won't even know what gets posted. I read the PSU board from time to time, I even read all the derogatory anti Iowa posts but I have the strength to do so without interjecting my opinion.
And I think that TnT do, but we always need the very best ingredients.
On someone else's board. No need for you to respond at all. Resist the urge.
Better than being a slum landlord I would think. But I digress
Bloomberg is not exactly a radical publication like Mother Jones, so for them to go after you, you must be quite the operator.
The Wolf of Main Street
Evictions come fast and cheap in the Midwest U.S., where few protections exist and tenants are rarely guaranteed counsel. Here’s a story of a mega-landlord, a lawyer-influencer, and the tenants they pushed out
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Nice last post, C-Man.Better than being a slum landlord I would think. But I digress
Bloomberg is not exactly a radical publication like Mother Jones, so for them to go after you, you must be quite the operator.
The Wolf of Main Street
Evictions come fast and cheap in the Midwest U.S., where few protections exist and tenants are rarely guaranteed counsel. Here’s a story of a mega-landlord, a lawyer-influencer, and the tenants they pushed out
Better than being a slum landlord I would think. But I digress
Bloomberg is not exactly a radical publication like Mother Jones, so for them to go after you, you must be quite the operator.
The Wolf of Main Street
Evictions come fast and cheap in the Midwest U.S., where few protections exist and tenants are rarely guaranteed counsel. Here’s a story of a mega-landlord, a lawyer-influencer, and the tenants they pushed out
Yikes.
Not much to say after that mess.
Thank you for ruining a pretty informative thread about recruiting rankings with all of this bs.
Appreciate it everyone.
Put this dying, wailing horse of a thread out of its misery.
Appreciate it everyone.
Put this dying, wailing horse of a thread out of its misery.
There is so much I want to say in this thread but out of respect for Mike Z I'll just bite my tongue...
It’s the cesspool…. Everyone is welcome to say goofy shite.
Your a Penn stater get it off your chest. If we did it over there on bwi. We get banned. That’s why you are saying that. We aren’t soft over here. We have thick skin!!
Just wish these psu fans would disappear!! Your page is full of fake fans. Y’all never had a rivals page until Beal got there!! Now you try to compete with the iowa page which is full of knowledge fans who been here for years before your fans where even around. I get it winning is contagious but that board is weak. Bunch of fairweather fans. I’m from the east coast. So I’ve seen it from the beginning. Like a bunch of roaches!!!
Check out the facts and you'll see this was a liberal activist masquerading as a "reporter". 95% of it is BS. And Old news. While you're at it, check out the same hose job from Oliver. And, total BSBetter than being a slum landlord I would think. But I digress
Bloomberg is not exactly a radical publication like Mother Jones, so for them to go after you, you must be quite the operator.
The Wolf of Main Street
Evictions come fast and cheap in the Midwest U.S., where few protections exist and tenants are rarely guaranteed counsel. Here’s a story of a mega-landlord, a lawyer-influencer, and the tenants they pushed out
Looks like it's myself vs all of Ped State. I'd say that is a fair fight
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