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In almost every Penn St wrestler interview or social media post most are doing judo and Ju jitsu training as much if not more than wrestling. In past 6 months I personally have seen RBY, Starocci, Brooks, Nolf, and Bartlett all talk about Ju Jitsu work. Cael has video working with Judo instructor on foot sweeps and movement. I haven't seen any Iowa wrestler other than Spencer talk about Judo and none about Ju Jitsu. Maybe I just missed it but the transition/flow/scrambling abilities of many of those wrestlers has caused every one of our guy's issues. Are we behind in these techniques? And is it hurting us on the mat?
 
In almost every Penn St wrestler interview or social media post most are doing judo and Ju jitsu training as much if not more than wrestling. In past 6 months I personally have seen RBY, Starocci, Brooks, Nolf, and Bartlett all talk about Ju Jitsu work. Cael has video working with Judo instructor on foot sweeps and movement. I haven't seen any Iowa wrestler other than Spencer talk about Judo and none about Ju Jitsu. Maybe I just missed it but the transition/flow/scrambling abilities of many of those wrestlers has caused every one of our guy's issues. Are we behind in these techniques? And is it hurting us on the mat?

I’m no expert but I think Desanto has the cart wheel to kimura down pretty good. ;)
 
In almost every Penn St wrestler interview or social media post most are doing judo and Ju jitsu training as much if not more than wrestling. In past 6 months I personally have seen RBY, Starocci, Brooks, Nolf, and Bartlett all talk about Ju Jitsu work. Cael has video working with Judo instructor on foot sweeps and movement. I haven't seen any Iowa wrestler other than Spencer talk about Judo and none about Ju Jitsu. Maybe I just missed it but the transition/flow/scrambling abilities of many of those wrestlers has caused every one of our guy's issues. Are we behind in these techniques? And is it hurting us on the mat?
There are a decent amount of our guys who spend time training with James Kelly at Citadel BJJ in Iowa City
 
In almost every Penn St wrestler interview or social media post most are doing judo and Ju jitsu training as much if not more than wrestling. In past 6 months I personally have seen RBY, Starocci, Brooks, Nolf, and Bartlett all talk about Ju Jitsu work. Cael has video working with Judo instructor on foot sweeps and movement. I haven't seen any Iowa wrestler other than Spencer talk about Judo and none about Ju Jitsu. Maybe I just missed it but the transition/flow/scrambling abilities of many of those wrestlers has caused every one of our guy's issues. Are we behind in these techniques? And is it hurting us on the mat?
I know I saw some data once, not specific to wrestling but relevant, which suggested that involvement in multiple sports (a generalist) at least earlier in life will yield superior skills if you specialize later. This was only true for sports where the skills needed involve varied unpredictable actions (like wrestling), not routine/repetitive actions (like golf swings or swim strokes). Summary - want to be a good wrestler, also spend alot of time in gymnastics/jiu jitsu/boxing/etc. Want to be a great golfer, practice your golf swing 50,000 times....or so the study suggested.
 
In almost every Penn St wrestler interview or social media post most are doing judo and Ju jitsu training as much if not more than wrestling. In past 6 months I personally have seen RBY, Starocci, Brooks, Nolf, and Bartlett all talk about Ju Jitsu work. Cael has video working with Judo instructor on foot sweeps and movement. I haven't seen any Iowa wrestler other than Spencer talk about Judo and none about Ju Jitsu. Maybe I just missed it but the transition/flow/scrambling abilities of many of those wrestlers has caused every one of our guy's issues. Are we behind in these techniques? And is it hurting us on the mat?
I know the Ferrari’s do mma training also.
 
I’ve been training BJJ for 20 years (it’s huge in So Cal, there are probably 6-7 BJJ schools in my neighborhood alone). Lots of the top Cali HS kids train BJJ in the off season and you can see it with their ability to scramble and ride on top. Midwest guys tend to be much more advanced with hand fighting and and definitely better on bottom. I’ve mentioned that Nagao’s dad was my BJJ training partner for years when Aaron was a youngster in the kid’s club at our academy. He got into wrestling to improve his BJJ and excelled. His BJJ skills were pretty apparent when he rode the piss outta RBY at B10s. Not a good idea for most guys to take down vs him. Not sure how many Hawks actively train BJJ, Eirman and Woods move like they’ve got some BJJ training under their belts, but I’m mot sure how accurate that is.
 
I know I saw some data once, not specific to wrestling but relevant, which suggested that involvement in multiple sports (a generalist) at least earlier in life will yield superior skills if you specialize later. This was only true for sports where the skills needed involve varied unpredictable actions (like wrestling), not routine/repetitive actions (like golf swings or swim strokes). Summary - want to be a good wrestler, also spend alot of time in gymnastics/jiu jitsu/boxing/etc. Want to be a great golfer, practice your golf swing 50,000 times....or so the study suggested.
I have played a lot of sports, including two in college. The best thing I ever did for overall athleticism: I learned to play tennis.

The reaction/reflexes needed, along with constantly changing direction and then sprinting 5 to 10 feet at a time was immensely valuable.

My HS football coach was pissed that I did tennis instead of track. I was absolutely right and he absolutely wrong.
 
I have played a lot of sports, including two in college. The best thing I ever did for overall athleticism: I learned to play tennis.

The reaction/reflexes needed, along with constantly changing direction and then sprinting 5 to 10 feet at a time was immensely valuable.

My HS football coach was pissed that I did tennis instead of track. I was absolutely right and he absolutely wrong.
Agree, tennis was my game, and my son plays college tennis. Many other athletes look down their nose at tennis as a country club sport, but you have to be very athletic to be good. Also very technical like golf. When guys from his tennis team form intermural teams for other sports, they usually win because of their general athleticism.
 
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Agree, tennis was my game, and my son plays college tennis. Many other athletes look down their nose at tennis as a country club sport, but you have to be very athletic to be good. Also very technical like golf. When guys from his tennis team form intermural teams for other sports, they usually win because of their general athleticism.
Anybody who looks down at tennis has no concept of sports.

Television doesn't do justice to just how great of a pure athlete you have to be compete in tennis at a high level. That ball is moving so damn fast. And to cover the length of court side to side and back to net? Insane.

And the average match at Wimbledon is 1.5 to 2 hours. And those guys don't get tired.
 
I have played a lot of sports, including two in college. The best thing I ever did for overall athleticism: I learned to play tennis.

The reaction/reflexes needed, along with constantly changing direction and then sprinting 5 to 10 feet at a time was immensely valuable.

My HS football coach was pissed that I did tennis instead of track. I was absolutely right and he absolutely wrong.
Chuckled at last sentence…..

Pickle Ball is all the rage now….. my high school eng lit teacher is pushing 80 and plays in tournaments all the time
 
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I have played a lot of sports, including two in college. The best thing I ever did for overall athleticism: I learned to play tennis.

The reaction/reflexes needed, along with constantly changing direction and then sprinting 5 to 10 feet at a time was immensely valuable.

My HS football coach was pissed that I did tennis instead of track. I was absolutely right and he absolutely wrong.

That last line is laughable. Either are great sports for a young athlete. What's sad is some Iowa high schools don't allow kids to do both.
 
Chuckled at last sentence…..

Pickle Ball is all the rage now….. my high school eng lit teacher is pushing 80 and plays in tournaments all the time
I have to swollow my pride and realize pickle ball is more my speed now than tennis. It the new tennis for older people. It would be nice if the ball had more bounce like a tennis ball, so you would not have hustle up to ball and get as low.😉
 
That last line is laughable. Either are great sports for a young athlete. What's sad is some Iowa high schools don't allow kids to do both.
I think you’re missing his point. He’s not saying that tennis is better than track, he’s saying that his football coach thought it was a worthless sport and was absolutely wrong. I went through a similar situation in high school. The football coaches did not respect tennis at all and wanted everyone in track. Unfortunately for them tennis was my main sport and football was just what I did on the side
 
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I know I saw some data once, not specific to wrestling but relevant, which suggested that involvement in multiple sports (a generalist) at least earlier in life will yield superior skills if you specialize later. This was only true for sports where the skills needed involve varied unpredictable actions (like wrestling), not routine/repetitive actions (like golf swings or swim strokes). Summary - want to be a good wrestler, also spend alot of time in gymnastics/jiu jitsu/boxing/etc. Want to be a great golfer, practice your golf swing 50,000 times....or so the study suggested.

This makes a lot of sense.
 
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This makes a lot of sense.
That is true, but my kids were growing up when parents, especially the one with big incomes, were specializing their kids from 1st grade. Sure most were better than other kids when they were young, but many burnt out and quit by high school, or other kids just caught up who were better athletes. I’m glad my kids were able to try many sports,
even if they were never experts in one thing. You only get one chance to be a kid, and very few will be athletic enough to earn a D1 scholarship, much less be a professional. They were all A students, which is the most important thing. It’s sad when you here these football and basketball players in
“college “ who are clearly illiterate, and probably not going to pan out as a professional. I guess that’s part of the reason they decided to let them make money off NIL in college.
 
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