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If Connor shoots like he did down the stretch, then he's an incredibly valuable player. By far the toughest guy. Gets lots of loose balls and rebounds. Coach on the floor and makes very few mistakes.

If Connor's shooting like he was until the last third of the season he's problematic. But if he's hitting around 37-40% there's the starting point guard. Big "if" but there is an optimistic scenario.
 
About Connor shooting best from 3 in conference - not true. Keegan was better and so was Ulis. And for the year, I think he was around 34% NOT 38 and there were 4 better than him for the year.
 
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Nijel Pack from Kansas State just entered the portal. Looks like his lead recruiter at Iowa was Sherman Dillard, but we never offered out of high school. He's from Indy so I assume he would know of Perkins through the AAU circuit. He averaged 17 points per game last year. Yes, please!

Interesting prospect, to be sure, but Tom K thinks he'll land at Purdue pretty quickly.
 
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But that was the choice. Fran's choice. And why some of us would consider it wasted.

If there was any evidence that Fran looked everywhere (portal, junco, overseas, etc.) and couldn't find a guard who could compete make them better then it would be a different story. But that is definitely not the case.
He had a short, slow three point specialist coming back for his 10th year of eligibility to get a lot of minutes. Then spread the rest between a pg he seemed to have no confidence in who had a very short leash and a guy who had a few moments that he seemed engaged and a few more that he looked to be sleep walking through.

I agree with you in that he(Fran) had his team set. That was the problem. And why that scholly was wasted
How is it that you know that?

I have no problem people thinking Fran wasted a scholly by not getting a better player added to the roster.

But, after he didn't, giving it to Ash was not a waste.

BTW - they did win 26 games. ;)
 
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Phinisee was injured much of the season. Wonder bout the nature of his injury.
When healthy,he was the most dependable shooter at IU.
I would think taking a one year flyer on a vet combo guard would be good.
Pack would be awesome but sounds like a long shot.
 
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Phinisee was injured much of the season. Wonder bout the nature of his injury.
When healthy,he was the most dependable shooter at IU.
I would think taking a one year flyer on a vet combo guard would be good.
Pack would be awesome but sounds like a long shot.
Rob Phinisee is a career 35.1% (29.0% from 3) shooter. His best season was his soph year (19-20), 37.4% from the field (33.3% from 3; 72.5% from FT), 2.5 Reb, 3.4 assists, 1 steal, 1.9 TO, 7.3 points. If he's been IU's most dependable shooter, then it's no wonder they've struggled so much.

The current Iowa roster is in need of a big and shooter(s). In my opinion, the only way I'd pursue Phinisee would be if Ulis leaves.
 
Joe T was like that spin toy in the wood box. It was out of control and then ran out of steam.
Will miss his toughness and tenacity, even if he didn't have a great jumpshot you need that type of energy and mentality on the team. That shot of him breaking down and talking to his Gma after BTT title is something I won't forget and shows how much he invested himself in the program.
 
Phinisee was injured all year.
He played in 25 games this year. He also played in 27 games last year. His numbers weren't all that different. His career EFG% is 41% and he's a career 61% FT shooter. His career PER is 10.4. That's bad and his numbers have trended down for the past 2 years. He's a pretty good rebounder for a guard but that's about it. Anybody suggesting that he's a better shooter than Joe isn't using any objective data. Anybody suggesting he's been better at anything other than rebounding hasn't reviewed the data.
 
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He played in 25 games this year. He also played in 27 games last year. His numbers weren't all that different. His career EFG% is 41% and he's a career 61% FT shooter. His career PER is 10.4. That's bad and his numbers have trended down for the past 2 years. He's a pretty good rebounder for a guard but that's about it. Anybody suggesting that he's a better shooter than Joe isn't using any objective data. Anybody suggesting he's been better at anything other than rebounding hasn't reviewed the data.
Plantar fasciitis: https://www.si.com/college/indiana/...hinisee-foot-injury-bothering-him-for-a-while
It doesn't go away during the season. He played in constant pain with it. This year was his worst year statistically. I don't think he's the answer at guard as I think that Ahron is as good of an option, but I'll leave that up to the staff to determine.
 
Plantar fasciitis: https://www.si.com/college/indiana/...hinisee-foot-injury-bothering-him-for-a-while
It doesn't go away during the season. He played in constant pain with it. This year was his worst year statistically. I don't think he's the answer at guard as I think that Ahron is as good of an option, but I'll leave that up to the staff to determine.
I get that. His whole career is very pedestrian numbers-wise. Joe is/was better. Hopefully Ulis takes a big step forward next year. Otherwise it's likely that Cmac is getting the majority of minutes there with no portal adds.
 
I get that. His whole career is very pedestrian numbers-wise. Joe is/was better. Hopefully Ulis takes a big step forward next year. Otherwise it's likely that Cmac is getting the majority of minutes there with no portal adds.
As mentioned, McC is high on Dasonte. I think he has reason to be. I liked Joe and wish he would have stayed but, if he really wanted to be promised 30+mpg, that wasn't going to happen. I think in this case Iowa could be better by subtraction. Could be.
 
As mentioned, McC is high on Dasonte. I think he has reason to be. I liked Joe and wish he would have stayed but, if he really wanted to be promised 30+mpg, that wasn't going to happen. I think in this case Iowa could be better by subtraction. Could be.
I'll be shocked of Bowen starts but anything can happen. A lot of people on here seem to think it's a good possibility. Of course the vast majority of people on here thought it would be Joe until a couple of days ago so.....
 
I'll be shocked of Bowen starts but anything can happen. A lot of people on here seem to think it's a good possibility. Of course the vast majority of people on here thought it would be Joe until a couple of days ago so.....
I think it'll be Ahron.
 
In 45 years as an Iowa fan, Joe's transferring out has hit me harder than any other. Am I the only one that wonders about the timing of Phinisee entering the portal, and Joe's decision to enter the portal? I thought that Phinesse had been in the portal for a week or more before Joe was. Is it possible that Joe found out about Iowa showing interest in Phinesse and that was the deciding factor for him to leave?
 
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If Connor shoots like he did down the stretch, then he's an incredibly valuable player. By far the toughest guy. Gets lots of loose balls and rebounds. Coach on the floor and makes very few mistakes.

If Connor's shooting like he was until the last third of the season he's problematic. But if he's hitting around 37-40% there's the starting point guard. Big "if" but there is an optimistic scenario.
What do you mean down the stretch?? He averaged less than 2 points per game over the last 7 games where he averaged 20 minutes of play and shot 14%. Two games have not made Connor a scorer. He's absolutely NOT been a scorer or an effective rebounder for that matter averaging 2.5 and 2.5 for the year. He is however a very good passer who seldom turns it over. He is an above average defender and a good floor general. Although lacking in the ability to break people down off the dribble or score with any consistency his skillset is still better suited to point guard than any other position on the floor.
 
I'll be shocked of Bowen starts but anything can happen. A lot of people on here seem to think it's a good possibility. Of course the vast majority of people on here thought it would be Joe until a couple of days ago so.....
I won't be shocked if Bowen starts. I also won't be shocked if Connor starts and plays 20+ mpg.
As for Joe T, I was definitely not one of the vast majority you are citing. I actually was leaning toward him leaving. The way he's been jerked around and in/out of the lineup with an ongoing short leash seemed like the sort of situation that would have a player looking for other opportunities. Honestly, when Fran brought Bohannon back for yet another season I was thinking Joe would move on as soon as he got that news.
 
I think it'll be Ahron.

Big key here is that the team is taking a foreign trip late summer. Bowen is going to have his shot to show his worth... as will Ahron. I just think Bowen brings the shooting ability that will stretch the defense (much like with Jordan at PG) but Dasonte also has ability to get into lane and finish at rim. He's going to be our starter I feel
 
In 45 years as an Iowa fan, Joe's transferring out has hit me harder than any other. Am I the only one that wonders about the timing of Phinisee entering the portal, and Joe's decision to enter the portal? I thought that Phinesse had been in the portal for a week or more before Joe was. Is it possible that Joe found out about Iowa showing interest in Phinesse and that was the deciding factor for him to leave?
Go and listen to Chad Leisikow's podcast. The player's end of season meetings took place on Mon & Tue. Joe asked Fran to commit to him playing 30 mins/game and to being the starter. Fran isn't going to lie to a kid and tell him fake promises he can't keep.
I don't think Phinisee has anything at all to do with Joe leaving and I honestly doubt we even reached out until after Joe let Fran know he was leaving. Joe saw the writing on the wall that it was going to be a 3-way committee at PG next year and didn't like where his minutes would likely be. There's noone at fault here--this is just the new era of college athletics. Joe is doing what he feels right and finding a place where he can start and play the minutes he thinks he's worth and Fran did him right by being honest and up front about it.
 
In 45 years as an Iowa fan, Joe's transferring out has hit me harder than any other. Am I the only one that wonders about the timing of Phinisee entering the portal, and Joe's decision to enter the portal? I thought that Phinesse had been in the portal for a week or more before Joe was. Is it possible that Joe found out about Iowa showing interest in Phinesse and that was the deciding factor for him to leave?
Doubt it.
 
Big key here is that the team is taking a foreign trip late summer. Bowen is going to have his shot to show his worth... as will Ahron. I just think Bowen brings the shooting ability that will stretch the defense (much like with Jordan at PG) but Dasonte also has ability to get into lane and finish at rim. He's going to be our starter I feel
I hope he or Ahron takes advantage of the opportunity and runs with it. It would be nice to have a solid point guard next year. Regardless of who ends up starting, I think the team will be fine in that regard.
 
What do you mean down the stretch?? He averaged less than 2 points per game over the last 7 games where he averaged 20 minutes of play and shot 14%. Two games have not made Connor a scorer. He's absolutely NOT been a scorer or an effective rebounder for that matter averaging 2.5 and 2.5 for the year. He is however a very good passer who seldom turns it over. He is an above average defender and a good floor general. Although lacking in the ability to break people down off the dribble or score with any consistency his skillset is still better suited to point guard than any other position on the floor.
Anyone can manipulate the numbers to fit a narrative. I’ll use the last 15 games where he went 18-40 from 3. There now he’s a good shooter again 😉
 
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Anyone can manipulate the numbers to fit a narrative. I’ll use the last 15 games where he went 18-40 from 3. There now he’s a good shooter again 😉
During that 3-4 game stretch he did shoot the 3 extremely well. Still, he finished the season like he started it with more scoreless games than any anything resulting in 2.5 ppg for the year. He scored 3.3 ppg last year and 4.0 ppg for his career. No manipulation necessary to fit the narrative that Connor may have other skills of value but any kind of consistent scoring has not been one of them. But who knows? Maybe the 6th year is a charm.
 
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What do you mean down the stretch?? He averaged less than 2 points per game over the last 7 games where he averaged 20 minutes of play and shot 14%. Two games have not made Connor a scorer. He's absolutely NOT been a scorer or an effective rebounder for that matter averaging 2.5 and 2.5 for the year. He is however a very good passer who seldom turns it over. He is an above average defender and a good floor general. Although lacking in the ability to break people down off the dribble or score with any consistency his skillset is still better suited to point guard than any other position on the floor.
Actually, four games of hot shooting but I take your point on shooting.
 
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Has anyone put together a list of these guards/centers in the portal who would help Iowa immediately next year? I would be interested in seeing some of this talent and who Iowa would be competing against for it.
 
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What do you mean down the stretch?? He averaged less than 2 points per game over the last 7 games where he averaged 20 minutes of play and shot 14%. Two games have not made Connor a scorer. He's absolutely NOT been a scorer or an effective rebounder for that matter averaging 2.5 and 2.5 for the year. He is however a very good passer who seldom turns it over. He is an above average defender and a good floor general. Although lacking in the ability to break people down off the dribble or score with any consistency his skillset is still better suited to point guard than any other position on the floor.
That stretch before the last stretch
 
Has anyone put together a list of these guards/centers in the portal who would help Iowa immediately next year? I would be interested in seeing some of this talent and who Iowa would be competing against for it.
I say all the guys from LSU
 
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How'd they do in the NCAA tournament? Asking for a friend...

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First of all, buddies for life, second all these guys were mostly 4/5 star players
How'd they do in the NCAA tournament? Asking for a friend...

;)
First of all, buddies for life, second they played well all year up until the ncaa but lost their coach before ncaa last these guys are all 4/5 star players out of high school and just need direction and stability
 
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First of all, buddies for life, second all these guys were mostly 4/5 star players

First of all, buddies for life, second they played well all year up until the ncaa but lost their coach before ncaa last these guys are all 4/5 star players out of high school and just need direction and stability
I'm just assuming any player that went and committed to Will Wade got "Big A$$ offers" and now that the checks aren't clearing they're looking for a new bag man--which they won't find in Fran.
 
Anyone can manipulate the numbers to fit a narrative. I’ll use the last 15 games where he went 18-40 from 3. There now he’s a good shooter again 😉

Okay, 121 games in his career and he only had 6 games where he actually needed to be guarded. All the other time, he's been the guy you leave uncovered to help on legitimate scorers.

I get that CMAC is the ultimate swiss knife/hard nosed player. Given Iowa is 1-guard injury away from being in deep Do-doo, I can see why CMAC coming back is a legitimate option. Problem is as soon as he's on the Roster, Fran is going to be using him as his comfort blanket...we will again see a year where 97% of the time, there has to be a McCaffery boy on the floor, regardless of whether there are better options.


CMAC the role player-----j don't see those type below the rim players on any Sweet16 teams getting any significan playing tie. If I look at Houston, Arkansas, If they can't score, they at least jump out of the gym with athleticism and rebound/play lockdown defense. On Duke or UNC, even the role player is a 4-5 star athlete that is or was on mock NBA draft list at some point.
 
Okay, 121 games in his career and he only had 6 games where he actually needed to be guarded. All the other time, he's been the guy you leave uncovered to help on legitimate scorers.

I get that CMAC is the ultimate swiss knife/hard nosed player. Given Iowa is 1-guard injury away from being in deep Do-doo, I can see why CMAC coming back is a legitimate option. Problem is as soon as he's on the Roster, Fran is going to be using him as his comfort blanket...we will again see a year where 97% of the time, there has to be a McCaffery boy on the floor, regardless of whether there are better options.


CMAC the role player-----j don't see those type below the rim players on any Sweet16 teams getting any significan playing tie. If I look at Houston, Arkansas, If they can't score, they at least jump out of the gym with athleticism and rebound/play lockdown defense. On Duke or UNC, even the role player is a 4-5 star athlete that is or was on mock NBA draft list at some point.
Yes. That's the biggest issue I have with Connor coming back for yet another year, just as it was with Bohannon.
It's one thing to have him as an emergency backup. A practice player. A solidifying presence who gives 3-5 minutes a game in LIMITED, spot relief. But that would not be consistent with how Fran runs things. I'd bet that Connor on the roster is more likely to get closer to 20 minutes a game than 5.

And, as you noted, the floor for athletic ability among the teams that made a showing in the tourney is above his ceiling.
 
Go and listen to Chad Leisikow's podcast. The player's end of season meetings took place on Mon & Tue. Joe asked Fran to commit to him playing 30 mins/game and to being the starter. Fran isn't going to lie to a kid and tell him fake promises he can't keep.
I don't think Phinisee has anything at all to do with Joe leaving and I honestly doubt we even reached out until after Joe let Fran know he was leaving. Joe saw the writing on the wall that it was going to be a 3-way committee at PG next year and didn't like where his minutes would likely be. There's noone at fault here--this is just the new era of college athletics. Joe is doing what he feels right and finding a place where he can start and play the minutes he thinks he's worth and Fran did him right by being honest and up front about it.
Thank you for that insight! Sounds like you are in the know. I hadn't heard anything about how that meeting went. I'm glad Fran handled it that way, however, I am not surprised how he handled it. Still love watching Joe play, and will follow him wherever he ends up.
 
Not sure why Fran hates Joe so much. Phinesee can’t shoot, doesn’t penetrate, but plays really good defense. Sound familiar? If you’re going to let Joe walk, you better bring in a top-flight transfer PG who can stroke the ball.. but we all know Fran isn’t capable of that.
 
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