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Twitter is a mess right now...

Look I am on the left, but lets be clear, I do think that some conservative viewpoints have been silenced by the left. There is some valid discussion to be had about the vaccines. My wife is a pharmacist, I think they are invaluable, but I am not one to stop discussion. Now there shouldn't be hate or out and out lies. In most cases most are just ignorant. The specific post Marjorie Green Taylor got banned for was that vaccines do not prevent someone from getting the virus. No offense that is a true, it doesn't stop you from getting the virus. It may give you some added immunity and most likely if you get it reduce the symptoms and likely take the worst outcomes off the table. However, Marjorie Green Taylor has put a bunch of drivel on there before the post she got banned for.

He fired most top executives and will likely put different legal council in place, again this is reasonable. The left are not going to leave just like the right didn't. Its a platform that currently there isn't a something that can readily replace it.

I think Elon is a bit cuckoo, but I also think he is brilliant and a visionary similar to Steve Jobs. If anyone can improve twitter and make it more profitable it will be Elon Musk. He greatly overpaid, but I bet he will at least break even or possibly even better down the road.
 
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Agree. But something else will just take over. We are too far down the rabbit hole.

Yeah. Unfortunately, we all, myself included have become addicted to our little handheld devices and ease of access to the inter webs, information and interaction. This stupid board is one of the first things I jump on in the mornings.
 
Elon is going to find really quickly that he's not as big a free speech advocate as he's claimed to be once advertisers start telling him they're not interested in funding a platform that revels in hate speech. He's already started walking back some of his commentary this morning promising advertisers that he won't allow twitter to become a hellscape of trolls and misinformation.

When you buy something for about twice what it was worth because you're impetuous, you suddenly are going to find that some of the reasons you felt so compelled to do so go away when the money starts to disappear as well.

My guess is that in fact what we'll actually see is not so much a return to the post whatever you want nonsense (Although that will happen for a bit while people figure out the new norms) but a space that is monetized and where being verified, or posting as a news source, etc... requires a fee for access; along with the ability to pay to boost your followers much more easily (And probably penalties to those who don't). Musk has to find a way to make Twitter not just profitable, but extremely profitable or he loses what to him is actually a lot of money too.
 
Honestly if he just gets rid of the bots and make people sign up using their name then I’m all good. Twitter sports news is the best way to get information

You cannot do this and maintain the platform's "perceived" value.

Advertisers are willing to pay to reach "a billion" followers on the platform; you trim it down to 1/10th of that and you crush your own revenue AND market value.
 
FB is a double edge sword. If FB could go back to it's "like MySpace" days, I'd like to see it stick around since it's pretty useful. For example: I like my son's school page, great place for information and open discussions (well moderated so it never becomes a bitch-fest). Additionally, I manage a small Jeep page where we coordinate wheeling events, discuss mechanical issues, and share pics. I can't imagine trying to do all that via email. Things I don't like about FB:

When its used for:
- Political propaganda (meme's, arguements, etc.)
- Self esteem booster (Incessant selfies, vacation file dump--seriously, who's going to look through 96 photos. Pick your 5 favorites and move on people)
- Like button and associated algorithms.

‘Agree with all of this. While I talk shit about Facebook, I still use it for the exact tools and resources you mentioned. It is actually quite resourceful land user friendly. marketplace is pretty handy as well. But now I use it mostly for those, and those only Because of the things you listed that you don’t like.

Ive never had a twitter account.
 
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You cannot do this and maintain the platform's "perceived" value.

Advertisers are willing to pay to reach "a billion" followers on the platform; you trim it down to 1/10th of that and you crush your own revenue AND market value.
I think previously he said he might make it subscription type platform to curtail the bots. He has other ideas as well but from what he has said the bots are one of his top priorities.
 
Gee, I'm shocked that when you let people post whatever, that decent minded folks wouldn't want to use that platform.

I think this is the beginning of the end for Twitter.
There were decent minded folks who used twatter? From what I could tell it was lefty blue check marks and bots.
 
I think previously he said he might make it subscription type platform to curtail the bots.

You think that addresses the problem?

Just means that people will FUND the bots now. Regular people won't want to pay subscriptions.
 
If Trump gets back on like before, I will probably delete Twitter and this board. My threshold is maxed out. But he has his own social media platform - wonder what he will do.
 
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You think that addresses the problem?

Just means that people will FUND the bots now. Regular people won't want to pay subscriptions.
It’s one solution to the problem Joe. And you think all these bots would be funded? Lololol

I will pay a sub fee for a cleaner Twitter without a bunch of idiots.
 
If Trump gets back on like before, I will probably delete Twitter and this board. My threshold is maxed out. But he has his own social media platform - wonder what he will do.

This is great. Does Trump dump Truth Social if he gets his Twitter gun back? What will this do to all the other sketchy platforms if these morans get the big stage back. Decisions decisions. Either way, it will cost them.
 
I guess for the poorly educated masses and those that can’t control their emotions, but it’s a great place for sports updates and fishing information

Lol. That’s funny. I actually agree with you. Unfortunately, A majority don’t fit your criteria.
 
Yeah. Unfortunately, we all, myself included have become addicted to our little handheld devices and ease of access to the inter webs, information and interaction. This stupid board is one of the first things I jump on in the mornings.
Twitter isn’t going anywhere. The left can bitch and moan all they want but like us, it’s built into their everyday lives. I’ve tried quitting Hawkeye Report, but it’s not happening.
 


Wonder how Twitter will do if they selectively "out" speakers on the platform they don't like, and protect the anonymity of those Musk likes....
Was she the only one who could do that? That's like a new coaching getting rid of the previous staff and people complaining because "they taught tackling really well". Bosses like to have their own people around they feel they can trust. Especially ones who spent $44 Billion on their new venture, I'd guess.
 
Much more than if you're not vaccinated.

Remember: you get better/more consistent immune response from the vaccines than from an exposure or infection.
This is simply false. This is the type of shit that I hope twitter has the balls to eliminate.
 
Elon is going to find really quickly that he's not as big a free speech advocate as he's claimed to be once advertisers start telling him they're not interested in funding a platform that revels in hate speech. He's already started walking back some of his commentary this morning promising advertisers that he won't allow twitter to become a hellscape of trolls and misinformation.

When you buy something for about twice what it was worth because you're impetuous, you suddenly are going to find that some of the reasons you felt so compelled to do so go away when the money starts to disappear as well.

My guess is that in fact what we'll actually see is not so much a return to the post whatever you want nonsense (Although that will happen for a bit while people figure out the new norms) but a space that is monetized and where being verified, or posting as a news source, etc... requires a fee for access; along with the ability to pay to boost your followers much more easily (And probably penalties to those who don't). Musk has to find a way to make Twitter not just profitable, but extremely profitable or he loses what to him is actually a lot of money too.

I think you will still see moderation around open threats and personal harassment.

I think the solution is WAY more transparency about the moderation process and an attempt to apply it in an evenhanded way that with a goal of benefiting the user experience on platform, rather than a goal of social engineering a political agenda.

So, like some kind of racist troll farm that posts a slur as a reply to 100s of thousands of tweets is going to be bounced, because it ruins the user experience. But a comedian is probably not going to be bounced for telling a joke about a transgender. It's also probably going to be a moderation platformed that isn't gamed by mob reporting.

I think Musk is a free speech advocate, but I don't think he's claimed to be a free speech absolutist. I expect there will be red lines that will be unacceptable, including direct harassment and threats, but it will be way more open than it is.

I think Reddit is much closer to the model they will be trying to go for in terms of moderation and freedom. There's a reason that most Reddit users feel positive about their experience, and most Twitter users jokingly call it a hellscape. Some of that is cultural, and he just may not be able to do it, but I expect that is what he'll be going for.

And by the way...there are tons of people that use Twitter for jokes, sports news, hobby news and commentary, etc, and it's AWESOME. Millions of users are totally unaffected by the flame wars and trolls and mobs by simply choosing not to participate.
 
There was an Esquire or GQ article several years ago about the horrible stuff that people post on Twitter and the scanners that review the posts. It was a shocking story. I was surprised at home much porn is on Twitter
 
There was an Esquire or GQ article several years ago about the horrible stuff that people post on Twitter and the scanners that review the posts. It was a shocking story. I was surprised at home much porn is on Twitter

99.999% of the worst stuff is low quality content that disappears into the ether if left to.

Hell, wait for the next "Twitter bros are aghast a black person was cast in the new Marvel movie!" breathless Buzzfeed article, and it's almost invariably some account with 9 followers.

That stuff has virtually no impact on the user experience, if you're not looking for it or following it. I think the Musk philosophy will be that the commitment to try to curate every thought expressed on Twitter, especially to curate it to a progressive standard, ends up being weaponized to the detriment of the platform overall. And make no mistake, it's weaponized by both sides. A Twitter ban on the alt-right is a badge of "They're trying to silence me!" and a big dose of internet clout.

The current paradigm of extreme left mobs being rewarded with accomplishments (bans) for looking for and highlighting offensive and "offensive" material, and the clout on the alt-right for drawing that attention has one effect - elevating garbage content. It elevates it way more than the attention it would draw on its own.

I think the idea, and we'll see if it works, is that most all the garbage content will fall off the face of the platform, because it is low quality content, without the built in rewards for both sides to bring attention to it.
 
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A mixture of righties posting things they previously would get banned, tagged as misinformation or suspended for like 'Trump won' or 'the vaccine doesn't stop the spread'....

And lefties saying they're going to leave, digging up any negative thing about Elon Musk they can find, saying free Twitter is fascist twitter...etc.

I just hope all the Iowa sports media doesn’t leave. I have a pretty good newsfeed now with their coverage, but its pretty clear most of them are liberals when they're not reporting sports. Saw Dochtermann was leaving the platform for at least today.

Lot of nonsense. I suppose we should expect that initially, and I don't blame dochtermann for taking the day off. It's a swamp right now.
I left. I’m sure my 56 followers were all heartbroken. Will hit up whatever replaces Twitter as the online hangout for those who do not gobble their own feces.
 
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There was an Esquire or GQ article several years ago about the horrible stuff that people post on Twitter and the scanners that review the posts. It was a shocking story. I was surprised at home much porn is on Twitter

And actually, your example is a great one. Twitter certainly doesn't have a reputation as a porn site. Out of tens of thousands of think pieces about Twitter written in the last several years, how many talk about porn? How many people are like "I will never go on Twitter because of all the porn I will see."

Well, Twitter takes an extremely light hand on moderating porn, mostly concerned only with things that are clearly illegal. And as such, the vast majority of it gets minuscule engagement from a handful of enthusiasts. It doesn't influence the greater culture, or the greater Twitter culture. It's mostly garbage for people who are looking for garbage.

Without the ability to weaponize or monetize Twitter's commitment to policing speech, the overwhelming majority of actual toxic rhetoric will also be made irrelevant.
 
I left. I’m sure my 56 followers were all heartbroken. Will hit up whatever replaces Twitter as the online hangout for those who do not gobble their own feces.

LOL, then why are you still on HROT, where people are allowed to post things from the right, or even outlandish conspiracies and misinformation?

How are you somehow inured from the existential threat from morons on here claiming the election was stolen, but on Twitter need to be protected from such?

Especially when on Twitter you can 100% curate whose content you see?
 
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