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University of Iowa business professor predicts harm to Iowa towns from Trump immigration policies

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Economist, local business owner discuss potential effects of mass deportation plan​


Dec 14, 2024

Lana Bradstream​

Staff Writer​


With the incoming Trump administration threatening mass deportations shortly after his inauguration in January, many residents are waiting to see what happens and worrying about the economic effects. Marshalltown has already dealt with such a situation before.
On Dec. 12, 2006, Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) conducted a raid on the Swift & Company (now JBS) pork plant. ICE agents arrested 90 people and transported them to Camp Dodge in Johnston.

Afterward, the Immigration Policy Center reported a three percent decrease in total retail sales in Marshalltown. Swift experienced a loss between $45 and $50 million. Fewer homes were sold to Latino families, and there was a 50 percent increase in the number of foreclosures on Latino households.

Anil Kumar, an economics professor at the University of Iowa’s Tippie College of Business, said the 2006 effects are not surprising. He predicted Marshalltown would experience similar or greater effects if a similar situation unfolds in the future.

“Large-scale deportations would likely compound these issues, affecting not only workers at JBS but also the broader immigrant community, which supports local businesses and housing demand,” Kumar said. “Businesses may struggle to fill vacancies, and a reduced population would lead to lower consumer spending, negatively impacting multiple sectors of the local economy.”


He said beyond labor shortages and reduced consumer spending, Marshalltown could face higher costs for housing and services. A smaller workforce at JBS could increase production costs, potentially leading to higher prices for consumers. Kumar added the housing market might also suffer, with fewer people available to buy or rent homes, potentially lowering property values and tax revenues.

“The overall decline in economic activity could strain local government budgets, affecting services such as schools, infrastructure and community programs,” he said.

Alfonso Medina, the owner of La Carreta Mexican Grill, has spoken to many Marshalltown residents and said the primary concern expressed to him is the devastation of the local economy — a permanent loss of jobs and businesses, unsold homes and buildings, reductions in home values and population and Social Security benefits being placed in jeopardy.

“I’m in a network of hundreds of business owners in the food service industry across the country,” he said. “Let’s remember the hospitality industry, which includes restaurants, bars, hotels and more, employs the largest number of workers in this country.”

Medina said recent studies reveal undocumented immigrants contribute billions of dollars to the national economy each year, primarily through taxes paid on their earnings.

“Although they are not eligible for many government benefits, they have paid around $96.7 billion in federal, state and local taxes in 2022 alone, with a significant portion going towards Social Security and Medicare, despite not being able to access these programs themselves,” he said. “Deporting all undocumented individuals, including those with no criminal background, would directly impact us as citizens.”

Kumar agreed with Medina about the significant effects on Marshall County’s economy.

“Immigrants play a critical role in the U.S. workforce, and this is particularly true at the JBS plant and in many small businesses in Marshall County,” he said. “Deportations would reduce local labor availability, making it harder for businesses to operate efficiently. Industries like agriculture, food processing and hospitality, which heavily rely on immigrant workers, would be hit especially hard. This could lead to higher labor costs for businesses, reduced output, and potentially higher prices for goods and services in the area.”

According to Medina, the fears of severe economic impact are widespread among small business owners if there is a mass deportation of farm workers, employees and customers. More than 50 percent of the agricultural labor force in the country are undocumented workers. He asked how businesses would get produce, and, for the small portion that would be available, how much those would cost.

“The cost would have to be transferred to the consumer,” Medina said. “If the consumer isn’t willing to pay for higher costs of goods, then those businesses would be forced to shut down, resulting in the permanent loss of tax generating establishments and millions of jobs.”

To help mitigate the potential impact of deportations, Kumar suggested business owners and residents do four things:

Advocate for policies or programs supporting legal immigration pathways to stabilize the workforce;

Educate elected representatives on the fiscal benefits of immigration and the potential economic harm of deportations, including reduced tax revenues and weakened fiscal health;

Build networks and partnerships to attract and retain workers from other areas and;

Businesses which might get hit hard – agriculture and construction – should work with governments to plan for workforce disruptions.

Crime

Tom Homan, the incoming ICE director, has said in various national media interviews that the deportations will begin with immigrants who are a threat to the public. Where or if Marshall County is on the list of locations receiving focus is not known. During an October 2023 Senate Judiciary Committee meeting, Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) presented a list of four Iowa counties which had the presence of three cartels — the Sinaloa, the BLO and CJNG. Marshall was the only county where all three were known to be present.

Grassley received the information from county sheriffs in Iowa, including Marshall County Sheriff Joel Phillips. According to Phillips, based on criminal drug activity, all three of the cartels are still active in Marshall County.

Grassley was unable to say where Marshall County would fall in the list of deportation priorities, but stressed the importance of keeping Iowa residents safe.

“My top priority is ensuring the safety of Iowans and Americans. I plan to work closely with President Trump’s administration to crack down on cartel activity and secure our nation’s borders, while utilizing current pathways for legal immigration,” he said.

Phillips said it is likely the federal agencies will identify cartel territories within the United States and focus on certain areas within those territories.

“The territories span several states, and I don’t know if Marshall County would be one of the areas,” he said. “I think most likely, with the crimes going on in trafficking, they will evaluate before they begin to dismantle. That is my own opinion. It will take a lot of coordination between state and federal agencies.”

While some members of the public might expect crime to reduce after deportations begin, Kumar said research does not prove the outcomes meet the expectations.

“Prior increases in deportation rates have done little to alleviate local police resource constraints,” he said. “This suggests that mass deportations may have minimal impact on public safety while disrupting the economy and community cohesion. While cartel activity in Marshall County might present unique challenges, it is important to note that criminal activity among undocumented immigrants is minimal. In this case, mass deportations could impose greater economic and social costs than the relatively small increase in criminal activity they aim to address.”
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Similarities

Medina said the Marshalltown residents living with the deportation threat are just like everyone else. They own homes and businesses in Marshalltown. They pay insurance and taxes without the benefits.

“They serve you, they cook for you, they have children that sit next to your child in class and are on the same sports team,” he said. “They have opened the doors to their culture and have shared with you all their delicious food on the marketplace. The only difference between you and them is a [piece of] paper the size of a debit card. They don’t have it. That is all.”

However, Medina said this threat is nothing new, as all administrations have taken such actions.

“Of course, there is always fear in the minds of undocumented individuals that this would directly affect, but it is important to remember those deported are often those who have been convicted of crimes,” he said. “At least, this would be the most common sense and sustainable way to go about it. I understand why (Trump) would want to push this idea of mass deportations, specifically because of the audience he appealed to. Most of the promises made by candidates during campaigns are rarely delivered, regardless of the party.”

Medina stressed that he believes in having a strong and secure border and has visited it several times during his life. To accomplish that, he said Mexico needs to be on board as the desired security cannot be attained on just one side of the fence.

“The U.S. has a once in a lifetime opportunity to think critically and figure out a way to morally and financially benefit from the situation,” he said.

Medina said hundreds of undocumented immigrants want the same thing. They desire safe neighborhoods for their children, without the presence of criminals, gangs or drugs as they work for the American dream.

“I believe there are millions of people that have worked and lived here for decades that have earned the right to be incorporated into our society without the fear of deportation,” Medina said. “I believe it is time for amnesty for all those who are here doing good. If not, there will be plenty of backbreaking jobs ready for all of us to apply for. Which job would you like?”

Undocumented Census numbers

The U.S. Census Bureau states there are 39,917 people living in Marshall County, and 3,485 are not citizens. Of the residents who are not citizens, 1,708 entered the country after 2010; 1,084 between the years of 2000 and 2009; 556 from 1990 to 1999; and 137 before 1990.

The U.S. Census Bureau estimates 1,856 of the residents are male and 1,629 are female; 2,317 of the residents are from Latin America, 775 from Asia, 258 from Africa, 70 fro
 
Interesting read out of Marshalltown:

Economist, local business owner discuss potential effects of mass deportation plan​


Dec 14, 2024

Lana Bradstream​

Staff Writer​


With the incoming Trump administration threatening mass deportations shortly after his inauguration in January, many residents are waiting to see what happens and worrying about the economic effects. Marshalltown has already dealt with such a situation before.
On Dec. 12, 2006, Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) conducted a raid on the Swift & Company (now JBS) pork plant. ICE agents arrested 90 people and transported them to Camp Dodge in Johnston.

Afterward, the Immigration Policy Center reported a three percent decrease in total retail sales in Marshalltown. Swift experienced a loss between $45 and $50 million. Fewer homes were sold to Latino families, and there was a 50 percent increase in the number of foreclosures on Latino households.

Anil Kumar, an economics professor at the University of Iowa’s Tippie College of Business, said the 2006 effects are not surprising. He predicted Marshalltown would experience similar or greater effects if a similar situation unfolds in the future.

“Large-scale deportations would likely compound these issues, affecting not only workers at JBS but also the broader immigrant community, which supports local businesses and housing demand,” Kumar said. “Businesses may struggle to fill vacancies, and a reduced population would lead to lower consumer spending, negatively impacting multiple sectors of the local economy.”


He said beyond labor shortages and reduced consumer spending, Marshalltown could face higher costs for housing and services. A smaller workforce at JBS could increase production costs, potentially leading to higher prices for consumers. Kumar added the housing market might also suffer, with fewer people available to buy or rent homes, potentially lowering property values and tax revenues.

“The overall decline in economic activity could strain local government budgets, affecting services such as schools, infrastructure and community programs,” he said.

Alfonso Medina, the owner of La Carreta Mexican Grill, has spoken to many Marshalltown residents and said the primary concern expressed to him is the devastation of the local economy — a permanent loss of jobs and businesses, unsold homes and buildings, reductions in home values and population and Social Security benefits being placed in jeopardy.

“I’m in a network of hundreds of business owners in the food service industry across the country,” he said. “Let’s remember the hospitality industry, which includes restaurants, bars, hotels and more, employs the largest number of workers in this country.”

Medina said recent studies reveal undocumented immigrants contribute billions of dollars to the national economy each year, primarily through taxes paid on their earnings.

“Although they are not eligible for many government benefits, they have paid around $96.7 billion in federal, state and local taxes in 2022 alone, with a significant portion going towards Social Security and Medicare, despite not being able to access these programs themselves,” he said. “Deporting all undocumented individuals, including those with no criminal background, would directly impact us as citizens.”

Kumar agreed with Medina about the significant effects on Marshall County’s economy.

“Immigrants play a critical role in the U.S. workforce, and this is particularly true at the JBS plant and in many small businesses in Marshall County,” he said. “Deportations would reduce local labor availability, making it harder for businesses to operate efficiently. Industries like agriculture, food processing and hospitality, which heavily rely on immigrant workers, would be hit especially hard. This could lead to higher labor costs for businesses, reduced output, and potentially higher prices for goods and services in the area.”

According to Medina, the fears of severe economic impact are widespread among small business owners if there is a mass deportation of farm workers, employees and customers. More than 50 percent of the agricultural labor force in the country are undocumented workers. He asked how businesses would get produce, and, for the small portion that would be available, how much those would cost.

“The cost would have to be transferred to the consumer,” Medina said. “If the consumer isn’t willing to pay for higher costs of goods, then those businesses would be forced to shut down, resulting in the permanent loss of tax generating establishments and millions of jobs.”

To help mitigate the potential impact of deportations, Kumar suggested business owners and residents do four things:

Advocate for policies or programs supporting legal immigration pathways to stabilize the workforce;

Educate elected representatives on the fiscal benefits of immigration and the potential economic harm of deportations, including reduced tax revenues and weakened fiscal health;

Build networks and partnerships to attract and retain workers from other areas and;

Businesses which might get hit hard – agriculture and construction – should work with governments to plan for workforce disruptions.

Crime

Tom Homan, the incoming ICE director, has said in various national media interviews that the deportations will begin with immigrants who are a threat to the public. Where or if Marshall County is on the list of locations receiving focus is not known. During an October 2023 Senate Judiciary Committee meeting, Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) presented a list of four Iowa counties which had the presence of three cartels — the Sinaloa, the BLO and CJNG. Marshall was the only county where all three were known to be present.

Grassley received the information from county sheriffs in Iowa, including Marshall County Sheriff Joel Phillips. According to Phillips, based on criminal drug activity, all three of the cartels are still active in Marshall County.

Grassley was unable to say where Marshall County would fall in the list of deportation priorities, but stressed the importance of keeping Iowa residents safe.

“My top priority is ensuring the safety of Iowans and Americans. I plan to work closely with President Trump’s administration to crack down on cartel activity and secure our nation’s borders, while utilizing current pathways for legal immigration,” he said.

Phillips said it is likely the federal agencies will identify cartel territories within the United States and focus on certain areas within those territories.

“The territories span several states, and I don’t know if Marshall County would be one of the areas,” he said. “I think most likely, with the crimes going on in trafficking, they will evaluate before they begin to dismantle. That is my own opinion. It will take a lot of coordination between state and federal agencies.”

While some members of the public might expect crime to reduce after deportations begin, Kumar said research does not prove the outcomes meet the expectations.

“Prior increases in deportation rates have done little to alleviate local police resource constraints,” he said. “This suggests that mass deportations may have minimal impact on public safety while disrupting the economy and community cohesion. While cartel activity in Marshall County might present unique challenges, it is important to note that criminal activity among undocumented immigrants is minimal. In this case, mass deportations could impose greater economic and social costs than the relatively small increase in criminal activity they aim to address.”
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If they are paying up to hire locals rather than hire illegals, it seems like it will help the town.
 
If they are paying up to hire locals rather than hiring illegals, it seems like it will help the town.
Won't somebody think of the liberal business owner who's just trying to enrich themselves off of illegal immigrants working for pennies on the dollar!?
 
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He said beyond labor shortages and reduced consumer spending, Marshalltown could face higher costs for housing and services. A smaller workforce at JBS could increase production costs, potentially leading to higher prices for consumers. Kumar added the housing market might also suffer, with fewer people available to buy or rent homes, potentially lowering property values and tax revenues.
How would housing costs go up, if there are fewer people to live in them?
 
Haha great insight. Without illegals Marshalltown will suffer, Mexican restaurants might suffer and houses won’t sell. Sounds like people won’t be able to make money off of illegals if you ask me.
 
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Does he have a list of which federal laws should be enforced and those that shouldn’t?
He identifies areas where legislation is needed or should be changed:

To help mitigate the potential impact of deportations, Kumar suggested business owners and residents do four things:

Advocate for policies or programs supporting legal immigration pathways to stabilize the workforce;

Educate elected representatives on the fiscal benefits of immigration and the potential economic harm of deportations, including reduced tax revenues and weakened fiscal health;

Build networks and partnerships to attract and retain workers from other areas and;

Businesses which might get hit hard – agriculture and construction – should work with governments to plan for workforce disruptions.
 
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Haha great insight. Without illegals Marshalltown will suffer, Mexican restaurants might suffer and houses won’t sell. Sounds like people won’t be able to make money off of illegals if you ask me.

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Gems like this in Marshalltown would go unsold?

Maybe tearing them down and increased wages at the meat packing plant would be acceptable.

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Illegal immigration will be diminished, while controlled legal immigration continues,.. Overall impact will be positive.
How will it have a positive impact? Jobs that need filling don't get filled. A bunch of taxes don't get paid, so lots of lost revenue. And demand for goods and services will drop since the illegals won't be there to keep demand up.

All of these are distinct negatives.
 
What did these businesses do before this wave of people came here illegally?
sell stuff to farmers, and to workers at fisher controls or whatever that big plant in m-town was called. just like ottumwa, the meat packing plant there and john deere, and farmers, were the main source of money
 
He said beyond labor shortages and reduced consumer spending, Marshalltown could face higher costs for housing and services. A smaller workforce at JBS could increase production costs, potentially leading to higher prices for consumers. Kumar added the housing market might also suffer, with fewer people available to buy or rent homes, potentially lowering property values and tax revenues.

So, might increase the cost of housing, or might decrease the value of housing?... Clown.
 
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How will it have a positive impact? Jobs that need filling don't get filled. A bunch of taxes don't get paid, so lots of lost revenue. And demand for goods and services will drop since the illegals won't be there to keep demand up.

All of these are distinct negatives.
because texas
 
What did these businesses do before this wave of people came here illegally?
Paid more. Emerson and Lenox have huge problems filling engineering positions because few want to live in a community with hundreds of eye sore residences.

Use to be old saying in Dubuque, meat packing jobs are rough but they pay enough so your kids won’t have to do it.
 
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How will it have a positive impact? Jobs that need filling don't get filled. A bunch of taxes don't get paid, so lots of lost revenue. And demand for goods and services will drop since the illegals won't be there to keep demand up.

All of these are distinct negatives.

Jobs will ultimately be filled by individuals who are here legally,.. It will just take some time to clean up Joe's mess.
 
How will it have a positive impact? Jobs that need filling don't get filled. A bunch of taxes don't get paid, so lots of lost revenue. And demand for goods and services will drop since the illegals won't be there to keep demand up.

All of these are distinct negatives.
Why are Americans counting on illegals to fill these jobs and do the shit Americans won’t do?
Don’t we want a better life for everyone that lives here? Just because it’s better than the shit hole country they are running from, we view it as an upgrade for them?
You don’t actually care about a better life for the illegals or American citizens. You just want to have cheap labor so the low class people stay where they should be and the upper class can keep the cheap labor.
 
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Why are Americans counting on illegals to fill these jobs and do the shit Americans won’t do?
Don’t we want a better life for everyone that lives here? Just because it’s better than the shit hole country they are running from, we view it as an upgrade for them?
You don’t actually care about a better life for the illegals or American citizens. You just want to have cheap labor so the low class people stay where they should be and the upper class can keep the cheap labor.
It really does seem like the illegal immigration crisis of the last 4 years was by design, an attempt by the democrat party to establish a permanent serf class of cheap labor.
 
Jobs will ultimately be filled by individuals who are here legally,.. It will just take some time to clean up Joe's mess.
I still find it hilarious that within like a year timespan Republicans went from telling us all that nobody wants to work anymore, everyone is lazy and wanting a handout to now saying that things will be fine and Americans will fill in the low paying jobs that undocumented immigrants worked before they got deported.
 
I think you asked and answered yourself in one question.
Ok smarty. Then why are Americans not doing those jobs? Is it because it’s physical low paying labor that a person can’t live off of? Shouldn’t you want to take care of that problem rather than giving the job/money to someone that shouldn’t be here?
 
I still find it hilarious that within like a year timespan Republicans went from telling us all that nobody wants to work anymore, everyone is lazy and wanting a handout to now saying that things will be fine and Americans will fill in the low paying jobs that undocumented immigrants worked before they got deported.
because trump
 
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